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616:'s socials have been converted to be social media pages promoting Nana, who's the only member left under the label. The group hasn't been active since 2015, and Lizzy has many years ago that the members have all gone their separate ways over time, no longer working together or promoting. They are also the only act from Pledis that Hybe has 0 connection to, despite them owning the label. The most recent discussion I've had over this was on the talk page for 269: 168: 653:
do think that updating the "years active" section doesn't need to have a group be referred to being disbanded before it doesn't say to present. Using your f(x) example, if secondary sources don't refer to them as disbanded, I wouldn't include in the lead/article that they are "disbanded", even if evidence such as their removal from SM's website seems to indicate they are, as I would say that violates
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B.A.P. member saying talks of disbandment were never brought up when they discussed their departures. However, Knowledge (XXG) has marked both as officially disbanded because articles reporting on the events used the term "disbanded" despite not proving such. Arguments I've had about this in the past have stated that word of the company and media matters more than that of the group members.
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Update factor to this argument: I was looking at SM's website and noticed that f(x) no longer has a page on their website. SM has also never stated that the group would still be active under the label, and the only person who's come out and said it's not disbanded is Luna when she was referred to as
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Korea's palace life and Joseon dynasty drama series are popular and greatly influenced on other part of Asian countries including India. It is a major achievement of Korean culture. I'm proud of Korean palace court drama, these are very interesting and amazing. I love to watching and teaching Korean
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I think like with everything we have to use reliable secondary sources. So if it is a reliable source referring to them as disbanded, even if there's no other announcements to go off, that would be what to follow. However, I'm not sure if you were considering this to be included in the issue, but I
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by Notorious B.I.G. which separated the difference between albums and compilations. In this it said that albums were comprised of recordings that were in the same sessions and were recorded with the ultimate goal of releasing them as this full album, while compilations would feature recordings from
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NCT 2020 Resonance has the part 1 and 2 albums in separate pages. Past 2013 SHINee albums, The Misconceptions of You, Me, and Us, were also separate pages until now, with Misconceptions of Us being referred to as a compilation album. On the other hand, Taemin's Never Gonna Dance Again albums are
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where most or all of the members departed the label, with the labels describing them as such and not referencing them as disbanded or active. Following after this members would immediately state the group hasn't disbanded at all, Kara's Youngji and Gyuri having stated this more than once, and a
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a former member. Meanwhile Amber has said herself in an interview there's currently no plans for f(x) to come together. Yet Knowledge (XXG) has continued to maintain that f(x) is still a group that hasn't disbanded, despite all the deciding factors for other disbandments being here. -
620:. The group's label was shut down earlier in 2021, as was the website. The socials are no longer active, and there's no one who's commented on the status of any of the TS groups since then (though we marked Sonamoo as disbanded when a member confirmed it herself.) 611:
who has absolutely no promotional website or social media of any kind, and hasn't been active since 2010, and every member is gone from the label. However, they're still considered to be a unified group still because SM never considered them disbanded. Many of
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various other sessions over the years that weren't intended to be on the same record together. So if this is the case I'm thinking that all multipart albums should be covered in 1 page like this and Never Gonna Dance Again as 1 full studio album.
607:, who left without any statements of disbandment from the company or members, but their disbandment was concluded based on the lack of website. Both had their websites deleted in 2016, and that seems reasonable enough. Now you have 433:
and it's already becoming a magnet for disruptive editing. I figured this would be the case, but I wasn't expecting the trouble to come right out of the gate. If you're interest, please help keep this article in order. Thank you.
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This has been a heavily inconsistent thing when it comes to K-pop articles on Knowledge (XXG) and I just want to understand how this works because it seems like the conditions differ with each and every group.
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royal culture through movies and TV series. I don't understand why Korean Wiki Editors don't create the about of Joseon historical figures? I've created an article behalf of Korean editor about
489:'s page, and as well as from experience editing articles on a lot of contemporary K-pop musicians for years, I thought that there would definitely have been idols that have came and gone. I do 723: 340:, which had 7 EPs release before they were all put together for this album. In debating as to whether this was a compilation or album, we referred to an old argument on the page for 398:
I'm aware of that. I was simply replying to lyk that since you raised your concerns, the NCT-related issue had been handled. Inserted 'now' in my orig reply above for clarity. --
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That's just my input tho, its a messy and inconsistent situation and I'm wondering if it can be resolved collectively here since it seems to persist. -
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I really want to understand the conditions of disbandment, and I'm hoping that we could possibly discuss them to make sure that it's all consistent? -
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Even if Jang Minho is no longer an idol, he should still be categorized in the existing idol category tree as he was one in the past.
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category on an article, like the one aforementioned (male), whilst feeling indecisive if the subject would
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under 1 page, Act 1 and 2 shared there, all parts deemed collectively as his 3rd album. So is
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Categories are not meant to make a distinction between current and former status, see
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be considered an idol after they stopped being one for as long as 20 years ago.
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has only one article (edit)now(edit). It was merged in August of last year. --
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I sent this message on January 6, 2021. Long before the August move lol. -
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K-pop has seen an increase in multiple part albums recently. Notably
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EP, hasn't gotten any responses yet and could use 'em. Thanks!
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Recently this type of scenario occurred with a British album,
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