Knowledge talk:WikiProject Rugby league/Archive 25

2150:. If the changing of the language is necessary to protect people not familiar with international sport, then it could be argued that Api Pehwairangi is an international rugby league footballer who plays for Ireland. To mention his heritage or place of both goes against wider MOS, and would be covered in the background. ie was born in NZ, grew up in, went to school in, played his junior rugby league for, etc To introduce a NZ born Irish international as your first sentence would be confusing to the casual reader and is a pretty bad way to speak, read and write. I'm sure Brexiteers and Trump fans may have different opinions, but they are rugby league footballers and they are uniformally referred to as ...internationals in the press, to go against that would be attempting to create our own facts. 2131:

over to the 'Infobox' will see he was born in "Palmerston North, New Zealand". I believe that this is confusing for the casual reader, and that the lede would better as either; № 1. "Apirana Pewhairangi (born 19 March 1992) is an international rugby league footballer for Ireland…", № 2. "Apirana Pewhairangi (born 19 March 1992) is an New Zealand-born international rugby league footballer for Ireland…", or № 3. "Apirana Pewhairangi (born 19 March 1992) is an New Zealand-born rugby league footballer.", or assert no nationality at all, e.g. № 4. "Apirana Pewhairangi (born 19 March 1992) is a rugby league footballer.", and leave whoever he plays for at representative and club level until the following sentence, and his country of birth for the 'Infobox', and background section.

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that the definition should be consistent through out all rugby league articles, as consistency is the foundation of good quality. As rugby league is one of the codes of football I believe that football player, or for brevity footballer, is a more accurate description than player which can refer to any game or sport, not just the codes of football. The 2000 or so rugby league articles I have initiated, have been initiated article using the term "rugby league footballer", but if "rugby league player" is now preferred then I suggest someone with access to AWB will need to implement it.

3938:, I am not keen on its use, as although clubs may occasionally be defined as 'semi-professional', I don't think it is possible to know whether an individual rugby league footballer relies solely on his payments from rugby league, or has an additional income, and what if a current footballer also works as a TV pundit, is he a 'semi-professional rugby league footballer' because he has other journalistic employment… minefield. Whilst appreciating that consensus is not the strong suit within the WikiProject Rugby league… 582: 455: 3229:

footballers alone, it's just association football is the most prevalent and people drop the association bit. It has no greater claim. Union people say rugby player without the union bit, and say great footballer when there is a good bit of skill in their game. We as a sport the footballer bit alot, it may sound old fashioned, but it also may stem from the influence of the NRL which has grown over recent decades. (rugby league) footballer is probably the best bet for the rugby league.

31: 598: 471: 4568: 1408:, exist in both lower and upper-case variants, and in the spirit of global harmony, I have initiated several thousand player articles with these templates to enable the reader's understanding of both Northern and Southern Hemisphere player position naming conventions. Is this preferred or not? If not, then should these parameters be be removed from the template, and the articles modified? 1920:, et al… whilst I have no strong objection to the removal of the '|nickname = ' field from 'rugby league biography' infobox, I believe it would be useful if only empty fields were automatically removed, and that if possible a list of articles with an entry in the '|nickname = ' field was produced, so that the nicknames are not lost, and that an attempt to find references for, e.g. 4621: 2583:

no compulsion, for example in an article about an Ashes test match, in using five-eighth when describing the Australian number 7 and stand-off for their English counterpart in the same article. As for terminology in other countries, I know NZ used the English terms until the 1980s so it might be a question of not only "where are we talking about" but also "when".

2284: 2095:, the vast majority of these "discoveries" were actually players for whom a played-for link to ]/] already existed in the 'Infobox' and/or body text of the article. There's no reason to believe that ] is an especially bad case, and I suspect that all (with the possible exception of those clubs having recently created/revised lists of players; 1616:, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time. 2563:

terminology?) rugby league in Australasia, but have played first-grade in Europe, so do we use the Australasian or European (and by that I mean English) terminology in the lede. Also, would anyone know if the terminology used in, e.g. Cook Islands, Fiji, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Tonga, etc. is the same as in Australia?

1212:. The England, and Great Britain statistics that are referenced on over 1,000 wikipedia articles, that were previously available on www.englandrl.co.uk, are not currently available on rugby-league.com/england, and so it appears that the statistics will have to accessed via the likes of web.archive.org. Best regards 4682:'s article and looking to find sources for the number of appearances she's made for the Kiwi Ferns. She's made appearances for both the full side and the nines side and it would be good to be able to record them separately and acknowledge nines more, especially with the nines world cup on the horizon. 4865:

9s is a separate but related game so it's not as simple as adding 9s as more clubs. The template needs the ability to carry a separate section on 9s like it can already do for players with history in both RU & RL. That said I agree the template is already getting too large and there needs to be

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might confuse the less politically correct amongst us (and our readership) - but the context always makes it obvious whether we are referring to someone connected with what is now the Republic of India or a "native American" (or whatever the current buzzword may be). Trying to micromanage phrasing to

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I believe I've previously raised the question of whether someone who plays the sport of rugby league football is a; "rugby league footballer", "rugby league football player", or "rugby league player", and it garnered little, or no, interest (I suspect that this may change on this occasion). I believe

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Yep. If a paragraph starts by saying a player joined Hull KR, and two sentences later says Hull made the semis, who could possibly misconstrue the meaning? There are obviously some cases where there can be confusion and it is appropriate to spell it out, but rarely. I notice that articles for players

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For items relating to rugby league then there is no question that Hull should always be qualified with F.C. or KR/Kingston Rovers as it is not clear otherwise and often without a wikilink on every usage impossible to determine. It is even more confusing if the city is involved in the article as well,

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would be considered pretentious and point-y, given the predominance of association football internationally and the historic league/union issue - it's analogous with someone trying to push a nationalist point of view in another topic area. And I also suspect that in almost all cases, after the first

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Personally from my point of view (English Rugby League fan) I think Rugby League Player is the most unique to Rugby League of the options. Football meaning soccer is almost the defacto meaning in everywhere except the USA and Australia but I agree that consistency is good and would be happy with any

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Points of note; №1 "Full Back" has a space not concatenated or hyphenated. №2, 3, 4 and 5; Wings and Centres suffixed with Threequarter (I believe that Three-quarter is semantically correct, but there you go). №6 Stand-off Half (suffixed with "half"). №7 Scrum Half ("halfback" not used). №8 Only one

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Is there a rule for current players playing from England in the NRL, and Australians in the Super League? Obviously this can revert back to their national usage after they return or retire. Not sure about rules for a player who is English and spends his whole domestic career in Aus, or an Aussie who

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I don't think it would need more than a few sets e.g. A-E or if it does we worry about that later. There is another factor; the World 9s, for example, a try can be worth 4 or 5 (bonus tries) points depending on where it is scored. I don't know if this is going to become common in 9s tournaments but

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I see that Theanonymousentry has been adding nicknames to infoboxes. By putting them in the subject's name, this looks like an attempt to circumvent previous consensus. As I've said before, I'm not opposed to the inclusion of nicknames, but surely this is not the intention of the infobox. Why would

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being described as a lock-forward or five-eighth. But in any article about Catalans where he is mentioned then the European terms loose-forward and stand-off should be used. The place for combo-links, imo, is in articles on international matches etc where there are team lists. In the text I have

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Rugby à XIII au Kenya ; Rugby à XIII au Maroc ; Championnat du Moyen-Orient et d'Afrique de rugby à XIII 2019 ; Championnat du Moyen-Orient et d'Afrique de rugby à XIII 2015 ; Rugby à XIII au Burundi ; Rugby à XIII en République démocratique du Congo ; Rugby à XIII en Éthiopie ; Judah Mazive ; Ade

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I took part in it, and used this opportunity to create several articles about RL. Here is the list, it might be useful for you, because I used several Anglophone sources to write them. Sorry it's in French, but I'm sure some words are very close to their English counterparts, so it should be quite

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It would be because first off it is uncited, secondly because they have played for multiple nationalities, thirdly their country of birth is covered in two other prominent places near the start of the article, fourthly being born somewhere does not automatically grant you that nationality, fifthly

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Sort of. Footy is both league and aussie rules in Australia. Rugby is both league and union in the UK, but union has claimed that term. A move towards simplified English and an Australian-English in terms of positions (ie half-back to describe a scrum-half) has not seen us shift wholly to the term

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Are position names meant to be stand-off, scrum-half, loose-forward for Northern hemisphere players playing in the NRL, or do they adopt the local terms? Same and similar question for Australians playing in the Northern hemisphere; do they adopt the local terms or retain five-eighth, half-back and

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to appropriate sentences within these articles. The reason behind this was two-fold. №1 When I initiated these biography articles, the season/year specific Challenge Cup articles didn't exist, so I initiated these biography articles with a red-link for the season/year specific Challenge Cup, and a

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article, and does it effect only cricket/rugby union/rugby league, or other sports/occupations?), it is likely that Jason Cayless only qualified for the New Zealand team as he is of Māori descent via the grandparent rule, so to make him out to be a New Zealander is confusing, and more importantly

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Consistency within an article is to be desired; consistency across a project is cloud-cuckoo land. You'll never achieve it and you'll get into a lot of irritating and time-wasting spats trying to do so. It really doesn't matter which of the many variants are deployed within an article because the

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is Irish, he is not, he was born in New Zealand, and whilst he may have gone to Ireland on a couple of occasions (possibly on a stag-do), he is not Irish, whilst "Irish international" may link to "Ireland men's national rugby league team", this is not obvious to the casual reader, who if glancing

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and choose to only use the version consistent with where a player spent their career. If they played extensively in both hemispheres then the use of the dual template is consistent. The dual templates are also very useful in articles about inter-hemisphere matches where teams are often listed in

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For Hull FC, a piped link on the first mention in the prose should be sufficient. If the club is being confused with the city, then I agree that the issue is that the prose needs to be made clearer; using an unpiped FC or RLFC every time a club is mentioned is complete overkill. Hull KR are never

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In the vast majority of usages the context of whether it is the club or the city is obvious, it only needs distinguishing if there is an issue. As to player or footballer we can have that discussion as to whether consistency is needed and if so, which term. Personally I think consistency to that

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There's an as yet undocumented change to the template relating to the number of goals a player kicked. Instead of using |goalsN= and |fieldgoalsN= if there is uncertainty as to how many of each were kicked there is now an alternative parameter called |allgoalsN= where N is the team number in the

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The dual template seems at odds with other sports such as rugby union, seems unnecessary to those familiar with the game, and would very likely be confusing to the unitiated. Given that they link to the page that details the description in Australia and the Northern Hemisphere, would it not make

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to the list. I am unsure what source was used and this is the case for many of the NRL lists, where the cap numbers added by Hugh seem arbitrary. I've found missing players from the 50s etc (even of 100 gamers) who get added to such lists, which obviously then changes the cap numbers, so I have

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Discount the soccer player altogether - that one is a coincidence and I'm not aware of any dual code players from this late on. As for the two RL players the one who played for Featherstone, Castleford etc is still very much alive and I know from social media that he is not the same person who

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Nonsense, if the prose is so badly written that every usage needs linking to determine then the whole lot should be rewritten in a clearer way. With players who have played for both clubs and/or games involving both clubs or games taking place in the city there is a need for more care but that

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1. Their nationalities are not uncited, they are contained within the rugbyleagueproject.org references; 2. Playing for, e.g. Ireland does not make you Irish; 3. Their nationality is of sufficient importance that it should be included in the opening sentence, and not just in the infobox and/or

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From an accuracy and encyclopaedic point of view it would be rugby league footballer, but from a common usage in the media it may be rugby league player. Just depends what angle we want to take. Rugby League football, Rugby Union football, association football; all are correctly described as

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Talking about positions , I created a few Wikidata files for stand off , half scrum, prop, scrum, all linked with articles in French . I also used the other designiations (Australian ones) in the description, feel free to use it...or not if you create such articles on the anglophone wiki

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only if they happen to have played any notable club (but not international) matches Australasia (should that be Oceania?), and vice-versa for Australasia footballers' articles. However, there is an issue in that some Australasian footballers have not played first-grade (creeping Australian

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background sections (and not all articles have and infobox and/or background section); 4. It is acceptable to assert that being born somewhere does give you that nationality, unless you have other referenced information otherwise; 5. Knowledge is not TV, neither is it a newspaper, and for

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and the list of notable ex-players. Is there a standard format for this for community teams? If not, I think a notable players section with lists of players who have gone to play professionally (or in the case of the women the Super League or NRLW or an international side) would be good.

3614:… Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook matches for Ireland were played in; Cairns, Port Moresby and Perth, so he may never have even visited Ireland (except possibly on a stag do)… Playing for Scotland or Ireland does not make you Scottish or Irish, and neither does it mean that you're not English. 2090:

I have recently been looking at Leigh Centurions player articles… when I began my little project there were 253 players linked to; ], that number has now been increased by seventy-seven articles (+30%) to 330, and whilst I have "discovered" some "new" Leigh Centurions players, e.g.

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At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template

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I agree from our point of view. But from the casual reader, if they are reading a section that is not broken down by club, they may well be confused. I'm not saying I don't agree, I'm just saying that at times we need to think about more than those who are familiar with the

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currently referenced, because we can move that information into the article. Otherwise I don't see an issue removing the rest, unreferenced nicknames certainly shouldn't be on BLPs like Michael Beattie. Anyway I won't do any further edits tonight pending further comments.

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I've just started filling in the Great Britain squad for the 2019 tour and I have a question about points and caps. Should they be recorded as the caps and points achieved at the start of the tour or at the end? I lean towards at the start but wanted to check with others

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Question… When someone comes from Australia they are Australian, when someone comes from England they are English, when someone comes from Fiji they are Fijian, when someone comes from France they are French, when someone comes from New Zealand they are…? I don't believe

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using AWB to change Hull to Hull F.C. in bios when really no disambiguation as to whether it is the Airlie Birds, the Robins or the Tigers being referred to. I'd add I also find the global replacement of rugby league player with rugby league footballer unnecessary too.

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If a few more editors could add this page to their watchlist it would be much appreciated, as someone keeps re-adding silly claims about his age. It's already semi-protected, but the edits usually get approved anyway as they look fairly competent at first glance.

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sense to create a rationale for individual usage of the "correct' term, rather than hedging bets trying to please everyone, but end up pleasing no-one. Wholly unnecessary in my opinion, but the justified usage of the "correct" term is a better way forward.

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the we would be going against what we would expect to hear in commentary and read in the press were we to assign Jason Cayless as an Australian and not the New Zealand international, sixthly the potential for confusion with as highlighted with the above.

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context will be clear to the reader anyway. We have far more ambiguous situations knocking around elsewhere on Knowledge that survive despite there being no diktat from a project, eg: in my specialist area I'm sure you can imagine why calling someone an

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They have been formally known as the Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks since their admission into the competition, even throughout the Super League years. However Cronulla Sharks has also always been used as a shorter form for the name as far as I'm aware.

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I have an aversion to the combo-links too in biographies and I'd go with where a player predominantly spent their career but with a bias towards their native country if that is there their top-flight career started. Hence I have no problem with

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come up against heavy opposition from the League WikiProject. I've got a major overhaul in the works in an attempt to prove that it's possible, but it's a little low on my priority list given how many other pies I generally have my fingers in.

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until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Usually there is far more article on the anglophone RL than on the francophone's one. Nevertheless, you might like to know that the following RL articles have been created on the francophone wiki; you may us them as translation , if you like:

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On 11 August a number of RL trophies are on display at Bradford City Hall, I don't know if photography is going to be allowed but if it is then this is a change to get some CC photos of trophies that haven't seen light for years. Details

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When Alan Rhodes played for Bradford City's first team in October/November 1964, Alan Rhodes played Rugby League for Halifax (he went to Bradford Northern late December 1964, exchange deal with Bryan Todd). They can't be the same person.

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He would be the best one to respond to your question, although from my experience it is hard to get an answer out of him. I have my suspicions as well over the IPs that keep reverting your messages and there is an ongoing SPI regarding

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verifies nothing, but at least suggests the first two articles should be merged, as it implies Rhodes played for both Bradford Bulls (then Bradford Northern) and Featherstone. Best I can do, but certainly someone must know something!

2649:. I am unsure whether Australian names are true for all of the southern-hemisphere. I am unsure whether British names are acceptable for all of the northern-hemisphere, specifically in articles refering to non-British footballers. As 2234:

or similar? The titles as they currently stand are very ambiguous, as they could refer to many different all stars matches around the world. I checked a few of the talk pages, and it doesn't seem to have been discussed previously.

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I've not heard the term 'rugby leaguer' to describe an individual rugby league footballer, but interestingly, 'Rugby Leaguer' was the name of a rugby league newspaper until it was merged with the League Express in 2002 to become;

1628:. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals. 2432:

using the Asian Pacific Rugby League Confederation site but it would be good to have some other independent sources. Unfortunately I can't find anything outside the established Rugby League media. Does anyone know of anything?

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is now superfluous, then rather than removing these on an ad-hoc basis, and specifically because of the boiler-plate nature of these biography articles, they could be removed en masse using AutoWikiBrowser. Best regards.

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Hi, on the Francophone wiki, I used two extra sources : an article from rugby league world and a book written by a French author, but still linked with RL . I understand you're looking for sources in mainstream media ?

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the numbers 1 to 13 with additional numbers for the substitutes. The numbers relate to the positions of the players in their respective teams, these positions being referred to by name and number as set out hereunder.

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I don't mind the idea, but I think the note at the bottom of the infobox could be worded better. Something like "Drop goals were not recorded seperately during this period, and are included in the total goals scored".

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Is there a policy for how Nines should be recorded? For example, should there be separate sections on team pages for the Nines team which records the players that have played and their appearances, points scored etc?

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is to list the try scoring methods in a central column, rather than for each team as it currently requires. The former is one of the common interpretations prior to changes, while the latter features my suggestion.

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The above rugby league footballers meet the rugby league notability guidelines (hence they have an article, and I've also just initaiated a ]), but there could be people who are notable only within the context of

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incorrect; 6. I see no confusion, and if you were correct then the nationality would have to be removed from not just all rugby league footballers biographies on Knowledge, but from all biographies on Knowledge.

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The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

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at that time). So the specification 'professionnal', added to a player's description should be incicated in an article only if the piece of information is sure or sourced. Given that for first division (

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Is there any possibility of looking back at the previous revisions of the 'rugby league biography' infobox to determine those fields that were, but no longer are, legitimate? I occasionally come across;

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My questions is… should we use the word 'professional' for all rugby league footballers to which it applies, i.e. virtually every footballer, only those that played prior to August 1995, or not at all?

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double quotation marks) returns 'Sorry, we found no matching articles for the keyword you entered.' Does anyone know whether this information ever existed, and if so, can it be recovered? Best regards

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According to the RFL's web developer... "I’m not aware of any plans to delivery England stats on rugby-league.com. I will however mention your email to the relevant person at the RFL." Best regards.

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I can't really object to any individual use of "footballer" rather than "player", but either term is fine. I see no value in making every article the same. It just makes it all look cookie-cutter.

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Third, I've been trying to either "split" League and Union infoboxes into their own individual IBs (or alternatively, merge them together into one Rugby infobox) for about four years and I have

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is that it can lead to a confusion in the anglophone world;There is the American gridiron the Australian football etc... not to mention soccer, known as Football everywhere except in USA imho--

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I created a page on the francophone wikipedia with the wikidata number (Q60401954). This piece of info, just in case, you would create one in this Wiki, and have it associated with that number.

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Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page.

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We should not be having Hull with no F.C. in the infobox. It can be Hull on it's own later on in the article, but it is not appropriate to shorten a short club name to an even shorter version.

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If they have to go, probably best that the empty fields are selected first, then the unreferenced, etc so to allow those to work them into the article or see a return to the infobox template.

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The RFL have a web developer?? It's one of the most badly laid out sites I've ever had to navigate. Anyway good spot by you and good effort in getting through the relinking to archive.org.

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contain information about the same club. I propose a merge, with West Wales Raiders reverting to South Wales Ironmen and containing just information about that (former) club and the merger

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Hi, actually it seems that they have always been amateur rugby league players in history. In France, I can confirm that and for England, I know that amateur rugby league already existed

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and is keen to improve that article. I've linked him to some stuff on COI and talked about references but am hoping someone with some knowledge of Rugby League can chip in. Many thanks,

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I would also lean towards the start. It makes more sense. Far be it for me to suggest the greatest game of all taking cues from soccer, but that it also how the soccer people do it. In

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You may check all the articles below. Some anglophone articles have also been used and completed with sources (francophones ones but also in English) or sometimes jersey design etc....

5008:! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the 4246:

I thought it was okay as they now appear outside the infobox and not inside the infobox. Not trying to circumvent, but can see where you are coming from, so have halted immediately.

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to justify my ratings but before I go any further I wanted to give folks the chance to provide feedback. Have I been too harsh by assessing it as Start quality and Low importance?

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I'd recommend we remove cap numbers from all lists which aren't clearly sourced. In the case of the Rabbitohs, I'd be in favour of the list being edited to match ssralmanac.

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to help differentiate between professional rugby league and amateur rugby union that existed prior to August 1995. There was some debate in the late-1800s as to whether

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Jason Paul Cayless (born 15 January 1980) is an Australian-born former rugby league footballer who played in the 1990s and 2000s. He played at representative level for

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players history. Obviously it only works for the period where all kicks were worth 2 points but it may save blank or aggregated totals with explanatory notes in biogs.

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and am sending this message to WikiProject Rugby league since the project currently has a backlogged infobox request category. Details about the task can be found at

4851:. I don't know how to deal with the points differences but I'll be honest the template is already huge and I don't know if adding in another column is going to help. 2617:

For consistency could we please agree a naming convention, whilst there appears to be some agreement for the differing Australian/British names for the positions of;

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Didn't know he played the greatest game tbh. He is at least famously German-born, although that might not have been the case if the Nazis had not come into existence.

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All Hail The Glow Cloud… I have initiated 2000 or so articles with the term “rugby league footballer”, if consensus is not important, then I will continue to do so.

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What leagueicon should this team use? I've used the Spanish one however due to their blue and orange colours, it seems the Central Queensland icon would be better.

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Well, this is disappointing… I was led to believe that this was a massively important issue, and yet 2-weeks later, not a single person has responded… how odd. 😩

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then they are just "players" of that sport, and from a consistency point-of-view choose either; player, or (or preferbaly) footballer… pick one, and stick to it.

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On the francophone wikipedia, it was the "African Month" in may 2019. It was a contest for all contributors willing to create or improve articles about Africa.

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with, e.g. www.nrlstats.com or www.nrlstats.com.au, but this doesn't appear to help. Would anyone know of a way to recover these references? Best regards.

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Would it be possible to delete the redirects; David Jones (rugby born c. 1901), David Jones (rugby born circa-1901), and David Jones (rugby, born c. 1901)?

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should be asked about it , but could it be because the fact that the players played for two different nations bring confusion about their nationality ? --

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there is the statement that: "The numbers of caps and goals listed for each player do not include any matches played after the start of tournament." --

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I've been performing some reference-rot remedial work over the last few weeks… one issue I've repeatedly noticed is that references that have utilised

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No preference for either footballer or player and I don't agree that every article has to be consistent as both indicate what the person did or does.

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It's "a pretty bad way to speak, read and write" to introduce, e.g 'German-born', in "your first sentence"… as it's "confusing to the casual reader".

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either; 'Australian' or 'Australia-born' would be perfectly acceptable, and as there is no evidence of New Zealand residency (actually a specific

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and tell me if any special considerations are required for the Wikiproject. For example: if only a specific infobox should be detected, such as

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Eh? Are you trying to piss me off again? If not, what do you mean? There is a reason I don't get more involved in this project and you're it. -

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Hull without a qualifier would indicate the city itself. On football Hull City would be used piped to Hull City A.F.C. to avoid any confusion.

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Adebisi ; Masimbaashe Matongo ; Championnat du Moyen-Orient et d'Afrique de rugby à XIII ; ; Rugby à XIII au Ghana ; Rugby à XIII au Cameroun

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IMHO, the full title is correct, but the shorter title is also fine to use in an article, just as Souths is used for South Sydney Rabbitohs.

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but should be possible. With the World 9s starting soon and probably more competitions in the future, I think it's something we need to do.

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It is likely that most rugby league footballers considered notable for Knowledge will be professional, i.e. paid. There are exceptions, e.g.

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only features in a UK competition. Just wondering if there was an MOS we should have consistency within the infobox across a competition IMO.

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were already present in the oldest revision searched dating from 09:53, 16 August 2006, and all the other fields I noted above were/are not.

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I'd like to help out by working through the unassessed articles especially the Challenge Cup ones. I've left a note on the talk page of the

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suggests that the 'Alan Rhodes' who played for Bradford Northern (person 1) and the one who played for Featherstone (person 2) are the same;

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I think on the basic rugby league level you put Hull down and people don't know whether that's Hull FC or Hull KR, never mind anything else.

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has identified above, when I have initiated the many hundreds of rugby league biography articles over the last decade, I have included e.g.

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points out above; it might be a question of not only "where are we talking about" but also "when", e.g. perhaps prior to the advent of the

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That brings me back to the prose point and the way articles are structured; overlinking is not a substitute for poor drafting of the text.

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Article ledes such as, e.g. "Apirana Pewhairangi (born 19 March 1992) is an Irish international rugby league footballer…" reads as though

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that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

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If this is problematic let me know; the editor in question has been warned about their AWB use and if they persist it will be removed.

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In terms of biographies I thought just "New Zealand" was used. As in: ____ is a New Zealand league player.. Maybe I'm missing a point?

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I believe that there should be a section of players that have not made their debut for their clubs yet but are in the 30 man roster

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discussion between editors of both codes on devising a modular infobox that suits both codes and their derivatives (RU7s and RL9s).

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It might be useful for you, especially, if you wish to create an article in English ( I used francophone and anglophone sources)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#RfC:_Specifying_the_code_of_football_at_first_reference_in_team_articles

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As it's only a redirect, I believe you could just overwrite it, as there's no history to lose, and there's no talk page either.

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Whilst performing the reference-rot remedial work… another issue I've repeatedly noticed is that references that have utilised

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Specifying_the_code_of_football_at_first_reference_in_team_articles

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had some mistakes in the infobox. I tried to clean it up today. If someone could take a look and verify it is now correct.

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Thanks Jevansen, I was beginning to question my sanity, I thought I was becoming a victim of "Gaslighting". Best regards.

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article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject

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Would someone with a bit more knowledge than myself be able to add some extra fields to the coaching section of the

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are English (born, play, represent), they are only allowed to play for Scotland and Ireland respectively due to the

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should one of these be prefixed with right, tight-head or tighthead? Should the term "bookends" be confined to the

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should one of these be prefixed with left, loose-head or loosehead? Should the term "bookends" be confined to the

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If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the

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a few weeks ago, I created this article about this British writer and journalist on the Francophone wikipedia.

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Would anyone know where the default value of 'Infobox rugby league biography' "imagesize" parameter is defined?

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from the Balmain Tigers or Brisbane Broncos aren't concerned about readers confusing the team with the location.

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Would anyone know where the default value of 'Infobox rugby league biography' "imagesize" parameter is defined?

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The irony here is that when I initiated these hundreds of "cookie-cutter" articles, I didn't use the un-piped

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if you merge 2019 Intrust Super Cup QLD into 2019 Queensland Cup (consistency of naming) I'll take care of a

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Second, yes we could very easily add params as you suggest above, much like we did for Australian Rules (see

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Hello, just to warn you that two new items have been created on Wikidata that can be used as "instances of":

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Looks to be a big coincidence, thanks everybody, must have been a popular name for children in the 1940s :)

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Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

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I agree they should match (and they did when I originally compiled the list directly from that website).

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Australian only, or all of the southern-hemisphere? should the term "first receiver" be confined to the

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Hi there! Well, in the three cases , we have the situation of players who played for different nations.

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I believe that the 'List of Wakefield Trinity internationals article' is unnecessary, and can be deleted

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article should be deleted, as I can find no evidence to support that any such player has ever existed.

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returns 'The page you requested was not found.', and entering "Switching Mann puts Bears in Fox hunt" (

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If consensus is not important, then I will continue to use the term “rugby league footballer” is all.

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Articles created on the francophone wikipedia, which might be interesting for anglophone contributors

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lock. Just want to see which way round it is, as it is clearly one way or the other for consistency.

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The englandrl.co.uk website is now defunct, and it has been replaced by rugby-league.com/england…

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as Hull FC, i.e. no full-stops, and even occasionally refer to the club as just FC. Best regards

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Offiah kicks off on winning note; New Broncos star fails to score but shows glimpse of his magic

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RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace

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I'm not interested in RL (or sport of any kind really) but came across the other Justin while

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parameters that need removing outright just to increase the likelihood of a successful BRFA.

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maybe grammaticly correct, but could could be considered syntactically inelegant, so perhaps

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people agree to remove part of the infobox, only to have the same info wedged in elsewhere?

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An RfC has been opened that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Please see

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template? I think it currently allows you to put up to ten different teams, but the late

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is the expression I read the most in the publications written in your language.... Could

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Number and Naming of Players - 3. For ease of identification, players’ clothing must bear

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Creation of a Partizan Belgrade rugby league section's page on the francophone wikipedia

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Is there a more dysfunctional WikiProject than WikiProject Rugby league? I hope not. 😩

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Should they be referred to as the Cronulla Sharks or the Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks?

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Hey Dynamo, thanks for your interest. This is part of a bigger issue as I'll explain.

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The Cap Numbers of this article appear to out-of-sync with thessralmanac.com list...

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This RL player, apparently better known as Steve, seems to have been mixed up with

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As there hasn't been any feedback I'll stick with Start quality and Low importance

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the degree suggested by the OP is neither necessary nor particularly productive. -

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Automatic removal of the '|nickname = ' field from 'rugby league biography' infobox

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is 613 in the artcile, but 628 ssralmanac.com list. Your thoughts? Best regards.

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played in the backs for Bradford N as he has been asked about it more than once.

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referred to as just "Hull", so confusing the two clubs should never be an issue.

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Thanks, as you say it sounds right and it's sensible to follow soccer's example

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You might like to know that I created this page on the francophone wikipedia :

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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doesn't need a piped link every time a club name or place name is referred to.

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Is it worth keeping as a redirect? If so, you can just blank and redirect it.

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has a rugby league career (including for Bradford Northern) from c. 1965–1968;

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era, New Zealand used British terms (possibly even terms more associated with

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then hada rugby league career (including for Featherstone) from 1968 to 1984;

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in the lede of European footballers' articles, while in the main-body using;

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If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the

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Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members

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Knowledge:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Missing_articles_by_occupation/Athletics

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Ah yes, are you saying that because in Australia, I believe "Footie" means

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it becomes difficult for the reader of an article to distinguish between

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should be used, as it'd likely be misconstrued as having played for the

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Alternative sources for Argentinian National Rugby League Team Article

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piped link to the Challenge Cup section of that specific season, e.g.

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I prefer player but don't mind either although consistency is better.

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article may be required, or perhaps amendments could be made to the

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from 1898 to 1904, and so managed to go onto coach rugby union for

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For reasons best known to themselves, and not for the first time,

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ever just known as the Cronulla Sharks, e.g. prior to; a merger,

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etc. etc. etc. …any chance you can pick one, and stick to it? 😩

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You can ignore this question. I found the notability guideline.

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should be detected. Feel free to ask if you have any questions!

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I thought you might like to know it as , may be, an inspiration

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afterwards. I'm not sure how much material there is too merge.

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I believe notable rugby league footballers who have played for

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coached at so many different clubs that it breaks the infobox!

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Can it not be contextualised, as it seems a decent enough list.

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The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

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List of South Sydney Rabbitohs Premiership First Grade Players

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Consensus is not important, call the positions what you will.

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Consensus to replace all instances of "City" with "City F.C."?

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What does a player have to do to be deemed worthy of a page?

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I think we have 2/possibly 3 articles about the same person.

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If you wish to use it here's the wikidata number (Q61963279)

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who maintained his (unpaid) amateur status while playing for

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should the terms "sweeper" or "custodian" be confined to the

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Can you point to an example of what you're currently seeing?

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is set up to handle the inputs so we just have to add a new

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then completely changed the number/order of players when he

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Hello From my foreign point of view ( for what it's worth)

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code, RL or RU. In the main template, you'd have a call to

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8th most popular boy's name in the UK in 1944 according to

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has removed the nationality of, e.g. English, Tongan, for;

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Australian only, or all of the southern-hemisphere? should

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http://203.166.101.37/NRL08/playercareer.asp?lplayer=1193'

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if used should "three-quarter" be hyphenated? As it's not

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if used should "three-quarter" be hyphenated? As it's not

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if used should "three-quarter" be hyphenated? As it's not

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if used should "three-quarter" be hyphenated? As it's not

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Hello! I have recently created a bot to remove completed

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eventually but should not be moved while an AfD is open.

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It could be a coincidence, but wider input is welcome...

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does not all appear to match the description used by the

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in the early seventies ( my landmark is the creation of

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is devoting the next two months (July and August) to a

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Article about Mike Rylance on the Francophone wikipedia

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Hi all, I've been talking to a user who is a friend of

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Anyone with a camera in Bradford on Saturday 11 August?

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rugby league articles, I have generally used the word

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on Saturday 15 May 1971, in front of a crowd of 85,514

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When someone comes from Australia they are Australian…

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Knowledge:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Rugby league

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What do we have to do to create a wikidata list like

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page can just be deleted. It has no information the

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rather than an actual website. I've tried replacing

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is suitable for inclusion in Knowledge according to

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Australian only, or all of the southern-hemisphere?

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website is now defunct, and it has been replaced by

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Thanks for the info. Will try to take part in it --

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