Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Redirect/Archive 3

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disputed NACs that have come up in the last year - that would be less than a dozen substantive disputes, and about five DRVs, so overall there has been very little friction and very few poor calls. It's true that some of the original arguments in favor were specific to TfD: first, there's sometimes a lot of work to do between closing the discussion and actually deleting the template, and that orphaning work has always been mostly done by non-admins; and second, some discussions are best evaluated by people who are experienced template editors, and the number of admins who are in that category

4224:(as well as the other two same-namespace categories) or to discontinue that practice as pointless and redundant. If a good reason is found to continue to add rcats to redirects that will populate the same-namespace categories, then nothing more will need to be done. If we decide not to continue to populate the same-namespace categories, then the three rcats that do so will need to be modified to sort redirects in the same way that the other five rcats sort redirects, that is, only cross-namespace redirects, and the three same-namespace categories may then be deleted. Hope this helps. 1863: 228:

has been left to the discerning eyes and minds of editors who have read the template documentation and category pages. Those pages contain brief and yet helpful guidelines for what is or is not printworthy, and the categories contain thousands of examples of each type of redirect, which also helps to at least tell what other editors deem to be so. Until there is a formal written guideline, that appears to be the best the project has to date. Hope it helps.

31: 2952:= "short". It means the same thing whether it refers to an incubation period, a term of military service, or a manner of writing something. It isn't restricted to a particular type of shortening. An initialism is a means of shortening by taking the initial letters of the words in a phrase. An acronym is an initialism pronounced as though its letters spelled a word. {abbreviations} ⊃ {initialisms} ⊃ {acronyms} Were there people who disagreed? 3290:, some of us just want the forum to function smoothly. Also, I disagree that it weakens anyone's ability to demonstrate need; if anything, a glut of non-admins closing discussions where they need an admin to push buttons shows that more admins are needed in this area, and also demonstrates that the users doing the closing know what they're doing, and you can highlight that experience in an RfA if you choose to do so. But you're right about 5564:! These look great. What is ADB? Did you mean AWB? The WikiProject one actually goes by the banner on the talk page of the redirect, not the redirect's target. On the one hand, it's not quite what I was looking for, but on the other hand, it provides a way to find former articles that have been converted to redirects without having the assessments on the talk page updated; I'd despaired of ever finding a way to locate these pages. 3187: 2124:, and I have to say it seems like a mess to me. There are so many categories in it, particularly the myriad character and episode redirect categories, that it is difficult to find the category you need for a particular article. I think it would be better for this category to be a top-level category, and then put other categories below it. For example, all fictional character redirects to lists could be only in 348: 5624: 4586: 4066:

albums that feature electric guitar", "Category:Animals that are not venomous", or "Category:Birds that can fly". We don't; we would only categorize the exceptions. Because the categorization of the default behavior is unnecessary and tedious, virtually no one does it; even without redundancy pruners like me actively removing the redundant categorization/templating when we run across it,

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it should be made clear that the assisting admins are not the ones responsible for the close. Admins should be able to assist in the procedure without having to recheck everything, nor should there be any reprisals against the admins who aid a nac closer. It's the closer who should shoulder all the responsibility of the nac. The nac closer might get under the gun; however,

709: 2295:, the redirect would subsequently only link to the article in question (and no specific section in particular), as that section title would no longer exist. Unless an editor notices the redirect is partially broken and decides to fix it, the redirect itself is redundant as it links to a dead article section. Is there any swift way to fix this problem? Thanks.-- 479: 5415:

a redirect with a WikiProject. It'd be awesome to be able to see uncategorized redirects by WikiProject of their targets. However, I suspect for the project I'm most interested in (WikiProject Plants), that list would be unmanageably large. I've fantasized about a tool like PetScan that would show redirects based on the categories of their targets.

5947: 4981: 4661: 4620: 4535: 4476: 4429: 2449: 2632:. Because murder has not been proven but death has, it seems to me that 'murder' is not only inaccurate but inappropriate, POV, and a possible case of libel in regard to the suspect. The article could be changed to 'Death of Ingrid Lyne'. Originally (from what I saw) it was just 'Ingrid Lyne'. Can someone please help and advise on this? -- 5721: 5528: 5512: 5496: 1889: 2128:, which in turn is in the all redirects category. Right now many of these fictional character redirects to lists are double-listed in both the fictional character redirects category and the all redirects category, which creates a lot of clutter. Does anyone object to me beginning to make changes like this?-- 514:. While fixing the flaw you helped me find, I also tweaked the text to include the possibility of more than one language. Now click to open the Edit screen and take a look at the code to see how that page is generated. That code is my suggestion for how to handle this type of redirect. Hope this helps – 3546:

for any means to overturn the close. The question therefore arises whether an admin should review the close before implementing it. In practical terms this itself is a judgement call - if someone has been making good NACs for some time, an admin may reasonably assume that they know what they are doing.

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I'd love to see better tools for redirect categorization. Article Alerts somewhat recently began including RfD notifications for WikiProjects based on the presence of a WikiProject banner on the talk page of the redirect's target. This implies that there is code out there somewhere that can associate

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I don't spend much time around RfD, but I can speak to the TfD experience with this process - it has indeed been very successful at reducing the backlog, and in fact most TfDs are now closed by a few experienced non-admins, with very little work left for me :) I think I've seen most if not all of the

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This is actually a little more subtle. Some closes require spending time, but little judgement. These would be unexceptional NAC. What we want to avoid is the situation where a NAC occurs, and an admin implements it, and ructions ensue either because it's a bad close, or because someone is looking

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was changed in 2014 to specify full protection, it was still being used on semi-protected redirects. Many of those redirects thus sit flagged with a now inaccurate template. This obviously isn't urgent, but if you're bored, maybe one or two of you will look through its transclusions and replace with

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How should I proceed in this example? One option I can see is to change the target and add a note below the "R from Merge" template explaining about the old target and the merge. Another option might be to change the target and replace the "R from Merge" template with a note explaining the old target

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Everyone is free to use these. Here's how: Visit the link, login, and click "Fork". Once you've forked a query, you can access and modify it from your own Quarry profile page. Change the category name at the end of line 5 to whatever you want (use underscores, not spaces), and submit. For ADB: After

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It's hard to say. I do remember a little of when categories, disambiguations, templates and redirects were all new to me, relatively impenetrable and best left alone. It seems pretty easy, though, to use the more explicit version, or at least "gently encourage" its use. Certainly I can understand

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code, "en". I held up, because I think the targets might really be Romanized (Latin) versions of the redirect scripts, so now I'm stuck a little myself. I usually just use the "en" for the "to" language, but as you mentioned the redirects are not Romanized, so it may be incorrect to say that their

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Essentially, I don't see how anybody could know which language the script represents. This is the English Knowledge (XXG), so this type of question almost never arises, and there is very seldom if ever a need to state more than one language. And for those rare times when such a need arises, it can

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The long answer would have to include the policy, the guideline and perhaps even a Manual of style page that explains precisely just how to make the distinction between redirects that are printworthy and those that are not. These have yet to be written, however, so the "printworthiness" distinction

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and, hopefully, will draw the interest of other talk-page watchers to come and help us out. I've never hesitated to install the three rcats on same-namespace redirects, partly because that is half of their function; however, I've never questioned whether or not that part of their function is still

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There was a time when non-admins were able to close deletion discussions at RFD by interpreting that they did have the power to do so simply by getting an admin to aid the process. Guess that's not the case anymore, which seems rather arbitrary to me. One thing though, if we go back to nacs, then

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Confusion and disagreement seemed to arise due to the very description you have given for "abbreviation". Should it apply to every "short"ened form of an article title? or only for those that actually are initialisms? I think finally hands were thrown up and the argument put to rest by making the

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In addition to the alternative spellings of alternative names, there are other common cross-categorisations, like alternative transliterations of former names, misspellings of short names etc. So far I've assumed we don't create a separate XY category in such cases, but apply X and Y in succession

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The vast number of references to "Hollywood" in Knowledge (XXG) are to the motion picture industry in the United States and not to the neighborhood in Los Angeles. I specialize in Los Angeles neighborhoods and have just spent several hours editing articles so that "Hollywood" in the motion-picture

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is redir out of "Knowledge (XXG):" namespace to "Knowledge (XXG) talk:" namespace. And so on. Various "Help:"-namespace pages have "Knowledge (XXG):"/"WP:" redirects (at this point a good argument could actually be made for merging the "Help:" namespace into the "Knowledge (XXG):" one, but that's

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As far as personal names are concerned, one of the poorly documented, and in some cases poorly researched, facets is which of several (in some cases many) appellations are of which character. Since I have been working on pseudonyms I have often distinguished between pen-names and stage names, and

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I like the idea in theory, but.... There are often discussions that have lingered open recently solely because BDD or Dereck Chan (and especially if both) have participated in them. When personally looking for discussions in need of a close, there are often discussions that have clear consensus to

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I don't think fixing the links is something a bot could do without close interaction. You might be able do get one to generate a report listing redirects with broken section links (and perhaps even make suggestions), but I think fixing them would require manual examination as it would be extremely

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which is absolutely fine. *However*, Дракула is the spelling used for Dracula in a number of languages with the Cyrillic Alphabet including at least Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Serbian and the old Belarusian(be-x-old) (I found wikipedia pages under those names for the Original Novel at least in

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redirects into the "Knowledge (XXG):" names and out of it (or its "WP:" alias) to other namespaces. Templating and categorizing "Knowledge (XXG):"/"WP:"-to-"Knowledge (XXG):" redirects is essentially the same thing as creating categories like "Category:People with eyes", or "Category:Heavy metal

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who changed some of the rcats from "R from/to/with" to "Redirect from/to/with", and another editor challenged the changes. IIRC, either an informal discussion or an RfC resulted in the modified rcats to be changed back to "R from/to/with", which I would have to agree are more desirable. The only

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My personal life is pretty busy right now, and I'm not able to adjudicate at RfD as much as I have in the past. I'm sure this has been noted. RfD also seems more active than in the past, which generally gladdens me, but definitely makes us understaffed, especially when I or another closer becomes

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I can easily believe there was confusion, but the response went in the wrong direction. Initialisms are, semantically, a subcategory of abbreviations, not the reverse. If the consensus was that it was futile to separate initialisms into a separate category from abbreviations, then the initialisms

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The workaround does not provide navigation from Allan Ahlberg at NO.wiki or PL.wiki to coverage here, or in Catalan or French languages, which is joint. Such reciprocal interlanguage linkage needs incorporation of Knowledge (XXG) redirect pages by Wikidata (perhaps in a fancy way needing software

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I'm not sure exactly the value of any redirect cats. I do think they help prevent reckless redirect deletion somewhat. While they are potentially of use if someone is doing "reverse research" - using "what redirects here" - anything meant for public consumption should be in the article text.

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also has an unnamed parameter that changes the text to "The correct name is (parameter 1's correct name)." These unnamed parameters were added to some templates for the express purpose of dealing with those times when the targets, for whatever reason, were not the correct spellings, the correct

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An editor has criticized this practice on the basis that there are no ‘red links’ in any source articles where the redirected links have been located with the result that other editors who may be interested in creating new articles will not know that there is not yet an article for that link.

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Actually I was one of the people who pushed for the clause " result will require action by an administrator" a few years ago, because it wouldn't reduce the amount of work that needs to be done by admins. But I made that argument in the context of AfD. I'm now open to the idea after reading the

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Placement of redirects in article categories, as an alternative to placement of target articles there, is inadequate for general navigation; it provides navigation only down the category tree, downward navigation. So the practice isn't worth general support; as a guideline it's one to be broken

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is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating

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I think they are plausible search terms because there will be text around referring to "President John Doe" even after he leaves office, but if there's a consensus against them then I'm happy to follow it. If they are deprecated then perhaps that makes it even more important to mark them for

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Cats often give more detailed information as well as have links to even more information. They also show similar redirects, which help editors understand rcat usage applications. Some editors who have been drawn by the "For more information follow the category link", have even taken up the

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Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Knowledge (XXG) struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia

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is not the correct spelling of the misspelled name). Should it be categorized as an alternative scientific name (but it's a misspelling of a scientific name)? Should it get both redirect categories? This also comes up with redirects from scientific names to common names and redirects from

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when the 1st parameter (from language) is empty and the 2nd parameter (to language) is filled in – and it was not sorting to any category in that special case. That is fixed, so as promised, I'll show you my suggestion that may be used in the future on any other such redirects you come

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template that auto-categorises into "Cat:Cross namespace redirects from foo" and "Cat:Cross namespace redirects to bar" (and potentially "Cat:Cross namespace redirects from foo to bar") if these cats are seen as useful. It might also have a tracking cat for non-XNRs incorrectly

4281:, since all "MOS:" pseudo-namespace redirs go to "Knowledge (XXG):" targets. Adding these categorization rcats to all "MOS:" redirs is just obsessive, omphaloskeptical "documentation of documentation of documentation" for no reason, a drain on editorial productivity. 1430:

and the merge. Or would it be OK to just change the target and forget about the inaccuracies caused by the text of the R from Merge template? Or should I change target and remove "R from Merge"? If anyone could provide some direction in this matter I'd be grateful. -

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I gather that attribution is the central concern and I appreciate that, but if the target is altered then the text of the template is inaccurate, and it seems considerably less likely that the edit history of the redirect will even be re-discovered at a future date.

3218:, referring to the discussion. This will help with the backlog by allowing more of the obvious result threads to be closed without waiting for a patrolling admin. There's of course some risk that a user could abuse this to get a redirect deleted out of process, but 577:

redirect should probably be deleted because it really does not represent a "language" redirect and it is not mentioned on its target page. Because of this, I intend to self revert the edits I just made to RFAL because the correct usage would almost always be from

825:. If Knowledge (XXG) allowed double redirects, this would be easy to resolve. I'm inclined to categorize as if double redirects were allowed although this means the rcat template text will be saying something incorrect about the redirect target (i.e. I'm thinking 531:

So if I'm understanding what you did, it's more or less "I don't know what language, but it uses Cyrillic Script" (into english). So no real capability for say "Russian and Bulgarian into English" (or in that case would two RFAL's be used?) I love how versatile

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The main point about using "R" or "Redirect" in template or category names: I wholeheartedly prefer and recommend using "Redirect" as the canonical version. By all means let people use short-cut templates, but let's encourage, gently, the wiki code to be more

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direct that the former of two redirect pages is not primary (should be in redirect categories only, among other things)--but it should carry {DEFAULTSORT} if deemed printworthy. The page may not be useful in article space but I hope the example is useful here.

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I agree with Paine that this is reasonable in many respects and it may be the best we can do given that "double" and longer serial redirects are not permitted. This approach does break all of the template messages that include commitments concerning the target

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argument here, noting that the problem we have is we have very few regular closing admins, so an effective stall would happen if all admin regulars opined in a discussion. Maybe non-admin "delete" closures will even attract admins to take an interest in RfD.

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would be usefully found in an index as "Identikit — see Facial composite". An unprintworthy redirect is one that has value in an electronic environment but not in a printed one, examples are typos, incomplete disambiguations, and titles without diacritics.

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That sounds like "the me of the past", but I cannot recall what specific plan or suggestion I had in mind. If I would suggest/support anything of the such these days, it would be ... to allow non-admins to close discussions to delete if a backlog in any

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Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please

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Oops, you're right on both counts! I fixed the typo, revised the descriptions, and added a third query that should do what you originally described. In any of the queries, you can include categorised redirects by deleting (or commenting-out) the clause

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rcats are generally first found when the reader/editor-wannabe happens upon a redirect, so they are found even by new users "in context", which should make it obvious that "R" stands for "redirect". Nothing cryptic in that, really, don't you think?

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works when two pages are merged together, there isn't any "r from XFD" template that would allow for the outcome to be pasted. Would it make sense to create such a template? My thought would be to have a parameter be the link to the XFD outcome.

4109:. However, the fact that the "redundant/pointless" part of this affects three rcats instead of just one should mean that it must be discussed in a more generalized venue, such as this talk page. I have left a pointer to this discussion at 4896:

Hey, thanks for the ping. Unfortunately that was 8½ years ago and I simply don't recall precisely what my reasoning was at the time - it's quite possible that I was just copying the way that somebody else was doing similar work. Best, —

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This was a pointer to a pre-existing thread for a reason, so as not to fork it. Recap version (I don't think it introduces any new issues): A redir in the "Knowledge (XXG) talk:", "Help:", or other namespace that redirects to "Knowledge

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Good day WikiProject Redirect followers! There is a proposal regarding redirects left from moving accepted drafts to article space being discussed at the Village Pump. If you are interested in participating in the discussion, please see

1748:, section "Clarification sought ...", now section 4, which cannot be linked directly), I have provided some further explanation (there) and illustration of one workaround that (previously suggested here and there without illustration). 5120:

My proposal is to create a category with a name such as “South Australian redirects with possibilities” which be added to all of redirects where the ‘redirect with possibilities’ template has been used and which can be accessed from

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would never be anywhere near complete if we actually expected it to include "WP:"/"Knowledge (XXG):" redirects to other pages in the same NS, so it's just pointless to encourage it, and we should directly advise against it. What

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Sorry, I haven't felt up to these more intricate apps, lately, as I just had an operation on the 9th. To cover your second example above, it seems that one way would be just to alter the text a little, so that is what I did at

1666:, and typically I just remove the wikiproject banners from the resulting redirect. Should I leave the banners and change the class to redirect? I don't see any point in keeping the banners, but I may be missing something. -- 141:, who seems to have more of an understanding of this concept/idea than myself. Also, for some possible information/history of the "printworthiness" categories, here are a few places where this term has been referenced/disputed: 2839:, and if I recall correctly it was because there was so much confusion and disagreement about what is an "abbreviation", vs. what is an "initialism" or an "acronym", "systematic abbreviation" and so on. The category became a 1663: 113:

Somewhere (on the style guide subpage or perhaps in a new page replacing the Knowledge (XXG):Printworthiness redirect) there should be an explanation: How would it be used? What are the guidelines on what is “printworthy”?

5125:. The benefit of this would be twofold - access to a list of potential articles by editors interested in writing articles and a resource that may be of some use for managerial activities, i.e. planning for editahons. 3327:

I remain very supportive of allowing such NACs. The fact that an actual admin needs to do the deletion is a huge check against abuse. There's another precedent for NACs that need admin intervention to complete, over at

2491:"John Doe"? I can't see one but this seems such an obvious category that I'm sure it must be in there somewhere. In the unlikely event that it's not been thought of many times before, would it be a useful addition? 619: 586:

language. I have been rcatting a long time, and there has never been a need to use one rcat more than one time on a redirect. Using the same rcat more than once on a redirect would probably just add to confusion.

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Thanks, I thought that might be the case. I somewhat question the usefulness of an "all redirects" category, but that's a discussion for another day; I don't have any problem with building the category tree under

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Perhaps on the surface this may seem like a good idea; however, honorifics can change. Should the "President John Doe" redirect be deleted when John Doe is no longer "president"? I do see problems with this.

3779:. The other five rcats are not allowed to be used to sort to the same namespace. There must have been a good reason for this, at least back when they were created. After all these years are we to consider 3214:, non-admins are not allowed to close discussions where they can't carry out the result. My thinking is a non-admin user could close such a discussion as "consensus to delete (nac)" and then tag the redirect 3697:

PPS: Some of these rcat templates are at "Redirect to/from" names and some at "R to/from" names; we should probably normalize them to the more explanatory names, and have redirs from the shorthand versions.

1449:, the template has a parameter that lets you specify the page being merged to (though the text is still a bit inaccurate), so you can safely (?) retarget the redirect while still keeping a note of the merge. 110:, which brought me to this WikiProject's style guide subpage. I am still unenlightened: I gather it applies only to redirects? And it has something or other to do with a print version of Knowledge (XXG)? 3906:

was a potentially useful piece of metadata that could have had more value as an editorial tool. I'm not sure that Wikidata will be updated by as many editors as might have been willing to maintain that

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I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, but is there any advice/guidance to best practices for categorizing what should essentially be double redirects? The case I just came across is as follows.

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Hey people, Would it make sense if for a wikipedia search over a certain number of characters, the search yields no article but it would if the last two letters were reversed, it should be redirected?

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changes a closer look. Right off the top of my head, your header-level changes from === → == should either be reverted, or all the other rcat-documentation headers should be altered from === to == for

3073:, is there any merit for hosting redirects in this form on Knowledge (XXG)? Is it enough to warrant the creation of a whole class of redirect? I apologize if this has been previously asked. Thank you.-- 456:

rcat, so let me have some time to check that and possibly to fix a flaw, and then I'll get back to you to show you how to fix this for future reference. And thank you! for helping to catch the flaw! –

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Does English Knowledge (XXG) have a template for this? Redirects to user pages that are deleted in favor of global user pages end up on the "Broken Redirects" maintenance page. On Incubator, I created

3332:, where non-admin closers put speedy deletion tags on redirects that hold up page moves after a closure. I would also like to see more editors step up at RfA, and more current admins getting involved. 160:...I hope that provides a bit of information until a more clear answer is provided. I'd try to answer this myself, but I'm not entirely clear on the useful purpose of the "printworthy" designation. 1002:"This is a redirect from a misspelling or typographical error. The correct form is given by the target of the redirect." --no, not if the redirect bypasses a double/serial, as postor says above re 2930:

should have have been moved into the abbreviations category (because all initialisms are abbreviations) rather than the reverse (because many, if not most, abbreviations are not initialisms).

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for that purpose. I would either (a) like to share this template, if it would be of user here, or (b) find the one that already exists here so that I can link to it through Wikidata. Thanks.

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redirect categories, regardless of whether they're redundantly included under a parent category. It would be useful to have a less cluttered tree of subcategories, but it shouldn't be in the

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publishes the reports I'm talking about, but I don't know if that editor is responsible for the code that associates the redirects with a project (for a current example see the RfD for

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templates I know of that use the full name, "Redirect..." are either not rcats or they are recent creations by at least two other editors. For example, one editor has disagreed with

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It may be reasonable that some project delete its banners from redirected pages, but I see no reason offhand and it seems to me unreasonable that anyone else should delete them. --

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Been pretty busy offline, so I'll try to briefly bring all who read this up to snuff on the current situation with these categories before I have to go off. As you may remember,

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you submit the query and get a list, choose either TSV or CSV from the "Download data" menu, and open the file through AWB's "Make list" panel (option "Text file (UTF-8)"). —

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A recently created article (currently at AfD) has been redirected twice but the redirect keeps getting reverted without any real rationale given. The article in question is

2575:, none of which has been categorized. It might be a good idea after all to put these in a maintenance category. I'd like to see what other members/editors think about it. 1145:

In "#2", the naming convention challenge, there are going to be times when such exceptions arise, but if I understand you correctly (and please correct me if I'm wrong), the

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I have created between 100 and 200 redirects that include the ‘redirect with possibilities’ template. A recent example is the article about the cadastral unit known as the

4950:, and categories, and the latter respectively also contains a references section. The pages are halfway between an article and a soft redirect. What action, if any, is due? 3248:

delete, that I don't close because it isn't allowed if you lack the ability to fulfill the outcome (as you state above). However, all that being said: I'd rather see a few

3927: 5066:). I can provide examples if necessary. The obvious exception would be if someone went by their middle name, but then it'd be the article title and not a redirect... -- 2065: 1268: 368:! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you! 4221: 4067: 3742: 1391: 89: 81: 76: 64: 59: 2944:"Abbreviation" means "shortened form". This isn't even a technical term: "abbreviate" is a generic verb meaning "shortened"—simply, "to make brief", for that matter 3745:, as "redundant" or "pointless". As you know, if the target is not in project namespace, then the redirect would be automatically sorted to a different category, 1794: 5465: 4627: 4061:

redundant and pointless, since all such "Knowledge (XXG):"/"WP:" redirects have such corresponding "Knowledge (XXG):" targets by default. We need to categorize

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and the categorization it provides, so that we can keep track of redirects into the project namespace. There is no purpose at all to tracking "Knowledge (XXG):

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For a very high level explanation of the distinction, a printworthy redirect is one that would be useful in the index of a printed encyclopaedia - for example

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I do have some ideas for conditions in mind, but don't want to waste time on it if there's just no interest in talking about it at all. What do you think?

2064:, I've suggested creating a bot to check that section redirects actually go to valid sections, and aren't broken. If you'd like to participate, please see 1094: 888: 1012:"This redirect leads to the title in accordance with the naming conventions for common names ..." --no, not if the redirect bypasses a double/serial, as 5436:

This is great input, Drew; thanks. Listing redirects based on the categories of their targets is doable. Do you know which bot handles the RfD alerts? —

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another discussion for another time), and there are some that go vice-versa, from "Help:" names to actual "Knowledge (XXG):" pages. We just don't need

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care to monitor TfD is not large. But I think the success in that relatively limited context is a very good sign for expanding the NAC scope elsewhere.

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Re the 2007 example - IMO it is printworthy (e.g. it would make sense for "2007 elections" to appear in the index of a printed encyclopedia). Perhaps

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which is currently the target of 34 redirects. These redirects are concerned with the cadastral units known as ‘Hundreds’ which make up the County.

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There are several resources for uncategorised articles, but they exclude redirects (as they should). I haven't found any such lists for redirects.

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templates. These are redirects to existing "R from ..." and "R to ..." templates and do not, at present, do anything new about categorization.

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and that kind of thing would get noticed and repaired pretty quickly if it resulted in significant disruption. A while back they tried this at

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I tried to use the form to make my request, but I got an error message saying that "Hollywood" already existed, so I am posting my plea here.

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Yes, that's possible. The nice thing is that there are several redirect categories that can be approached in this sort of way. Are you using

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Personally, I think that weakening participants' ability to demonstrate a need for adminship is a poor reason not to do this. We're not all

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This hour I revised the documentation to cover the second parameter clearly, i hope, and to provide a redlink illustration as at FR.wiki --

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Thanks for your reply. I was looking for something like a guideline. It's reassuring to know that I am not overlooking something obvious. —

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should be an alternative scientific name even though the target isn't the correct scientific name). Any thoughts on how to handle these?

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why people who work a lot on redirects want to use the shorter form for the templates, and I don't want to discourage or slow them down.

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The template messages refer to the targets that we bypass, as the case may be. This is tolerable but must cause some editors to stumble.

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for the purpose of producing a link to a redirected page (rather than a link to the redirect's target), is not working. More detail on

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For the record, I've now nominated both examples provided at the RCAT for deletion now that I've had the chance to look into them. --

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:What Knowledge (XXG) is not#Proposal: Extend "Knowledge (XXG) is not a Directory" to cover unnecessary redirects

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OTOH, there may not be a lot of call for this category. If there isn't, maybe we can sacrifice accuracy, and just leave it as is?

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Meanwhile, I'll strongly recommend non-admins to close RfDs that do not require the delete button, and for RfD regulars to run for

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I disagree, just because I've seen proposals like this fail in the past. I would rather see certain venues, such as RfD, serve as "

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may be used on a redirect anytime the sort should be different than the redirect's page name. Both Fichstrom and Zemack can carry

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A proposal to expand the criteria for speedy deletion to include redirects with specific disambiguation errors has been made at

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Would it be possible to categorise broken section anchors, e.g. via creating a new template (organising the broken anchors)?--

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I am presently concerned with fixing redirects to sections that have been since renamed or perhaps removed, e.g. the redirect

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should. I'd suggest that a separate template message is needed for redirects from abbreviations. Indeed, replacement with

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You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that

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Thank you Paine, that's a good answer to the question I should have asked first, so I suppose there are two issues here:

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I'm curious what would be considered best practice for handling an R from Merge when you wish to change the target. From

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that shouldn't be too long. Check the targets, though, because some of them link to disambig pages, and would also get

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Do we have a redirect template where a title for a person has been redirected to a more suitable article? For example,

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is already what we'd expect, and we have no maintenance reason to tag/cat. it. We arguably also do not need to tag

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to go through every single one by hand. It would be easier to simply ask Los Angeles editors (like me) to type in

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to create a named target for the redirect. And you can add hidden comment about the redirect to alert editors.

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and who mainly writes about things South Australian. I am posting here to get some feedback on the proposal.

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policy to forbid the creation of certain redirects. If you would like to comment on the proposal, please see

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I do understand better now the need for readability as a tool for newer users. In this case, however, the

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Wondering if there's appetite to explore allowing non-admins to close a redirect discussion (for example,

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WT:NOT#RfC: Should we add a footnote to WP:NOTHOWTO/WP:NOTFAQ stating that it does not apply to redirects?

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should be categorized as a misspelling even though the target isn't the correct spelling of the term, and

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and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my

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We should continue to populate these categories, but only with unexpected instances. E.g. the redirect

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The rcats that populate the first three above categories also populate three same-namespace categories:

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of subject-page redirects, then yes, they should be kept and the class(es) changed to "Redirect". The

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difficult for a bot to determine how a section link had been edited. You might want to have a look at

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is underpopulated, but might be a good place to build a category tree free of double listing clutter.

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I like your candor, Plantdrew, and would very much appreciate any help you can give to make template

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No thanks. Categories should be categories. We should be sending them to a help page, or a section.

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into the article, one for each language, do I choose one(how?), or do I just leave it as unspecified?

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needed. It is good to question things that seem pointless and redundant when we come across them.

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You raise good points, and I don't know how many of these there are, but just a cursory check finds

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Heya, I've been making a fair number of redirects based on XFD outcomes, and I realized that while

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To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to

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So one of the questions asked in this discussion is whether or not we should continue to populate

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template, which affects this WikiProject. Users participating in the project may be interested in

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So, looking for redirects to categorise? I can generate a file you can feed to AWB if you want. —

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template to catalogue previous deletion discussions on the redirect's talk page. Have a look at

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Redirects with specific disambiguation errors

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P.S. As I understand, both Harvey Fichstrom and Harve Zemach are printworthy. My two-year-old

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targets are in the English language. Maybe someone else will be able to help us with this? –

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I encountered the word “printworthiness” in one of the R from templates; so I looked it up in

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to all redirects which only contain a single redirect template via bot has been put forth at

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the category sorts of redirects that go to the same namespace to be pointless and redundant?

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I'm not sure if that would be a useful categorization for reader space. Normally we use the

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monitoring of some of these categories, which helps in the administration of this project.

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possible attention. But I'm no expert so I'm here to ask advice rather than push my view.

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Since there doesn't seem to be a dynamic list of uncategorised redirects, I started using

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Not sure where you want to go with your "printworthy" comments (I might still be a little

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Hello. Is there a template or category for redirects such as "President John Doe" -: -->

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Knowledge (XXG):Village pump (technical)/Archive 142#Bot to check redirects to section

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should be kept in lockstep. I edited the former, but the latter is locked. What now?

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Page mover#RFC - Proposed: "Page mover" permission to be created

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Ah, so utilize the talk page to show why it was turned into a redirect. Makes sense.

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upgrade) or maintenance for this purpose of the related articles in all languages. --

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Redirect#Redirects from older names of Colleges.2FUniversities

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#Admin assistance needed with Kanata

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still is), and so has started building the separate rcat. That has been discussed

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Considering how US government sources often list personnel as Surname, Given name,

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easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested,

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user-rights, as an option for editors to request instead of requesting the entire

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Template talk:R to project namespace#Let's stop pointlessly adding redundant rcats

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might be better for many of these. It's worth pointing out that most articles in

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template should also be used and placed at the TOP above the banners (shortcut =

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Seconded – if what you describe is whether or not to keep project banners on the

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There was indeed a flaw in the language rcat, because it is supposed to populate

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Creation of a category for redirects for subjects within a geographical locality

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Knowledge (XXG):Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 November 5#‎Space before comma

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Redirects for discussion § Allow non-admin delete closures?

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should be placed on the talk pages of both the redirect and the merged article.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Proposal regarding redirects from page moves in draft space at the Village Pump

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for the ISO 4 includes periods after each abbreviated word. Hence we need both

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You are great, Anon124! That's exactly the info I was looking for. Thank you. -

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I find concrete examples are often easier to understand so here's my example:

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I need admin assistance to fix up a confused redirect-cum-disambig mess with

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is also a redirect that resulted from a page move, I would tag it as follows:

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Yes, I think these are okay as redirects, and I began to tag them as follows:

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That is a very good question, and the short answer is that if the title of a

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User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 164#Printed version of the full Knowledge (XXG)

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Knowledge (XXG):Bot requests/Archive 67#Idea: sectional redirect updater bot

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Knowledge (XXG):Templates for discussion/Log/2014 May 30#Template:R no print

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pushed for this sort of thing in the past and was rebuffed. But of course,

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My impression is that "All redirect categories" is meant to capture, well,

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Bot Request to create redirects to lists, from the things they are lists of

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ensued. Hopefully, this will be the appropriate categorization for now. –

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In your "#1" above, the double redirect is covered by the 1st parameter in

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If I'm understanding you correctly, we already have an rcat of that type:

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could be fixed automatically via a bot. This was previously brought up at

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While trying to categorize some uncategorized articles, I stumbled across

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practical is to track down the redirs to and from this namespace and tag

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we provide/instruct navigation to incoming redirects that are substantial

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comes to mind). But I'm not sure if there's already something like that.

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Yes, resolved and I like the redirect categorization you did. Thanks,--

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Category:Articles to be merged after an Articles for deletion discussion

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is working with the expected behaviour. Can someone please have a look?

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In my experience, redirects like that have always been deleted at RfD (

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and was emptied. It's going to take some work to set all this right.

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A proposal to summarily delete a large amount of redirects created by

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sense points to "Cinema of the United States." I realize now it is a

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the nac closer should come under the gun, not the assisting admin.

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An editor has asked for comments regarding a proposed change to the

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to help determine consensus in regard to whether or not to use the

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and rely on common sense that it will be interpreted as meaning X

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If yes to the above, while one parent category would obviously be

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Knowledge (XXG):Village pump (proposals)#Draft Namespace Redirects

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As noted above my edit to the alt-sci-name rcat was reverted, and

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redirect is the pseudonym and should be tagged as such, while the

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template. Near the top is a hatnote that links to the article on

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could explain the reason for thinking it's not printworthy (diff

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are numerous, and they should not be showing this message, while

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automatically to redirects that are left behind from page moves.

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should or should not apply to redirects. For the discussion, see

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along with its target article, then it should be tagged with the

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too many uses of "Hollywood" referring to the U.S. film industry

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Not sure what the current situation is, but I would recommend a

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Uncategorised redirects whose targets are in a certain category

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Yes, you've got it. Since it's just a character substitution,

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user-right package. I welcome everyone's thoughts on this. -

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It's a pleasure! I have added the need for guidelines to the

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect

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Probably, though likely could do it by adding a parameter to

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Knowledge (XXG):Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_October_24

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is used to tag the pseudonym, Harve Zemach (instead of, say,

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Are there tools for (semi)automated redirect categorisation?

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Knowledge (XXG):Administrators' noticeboard#Neelix redirects

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Category talk:All redirect categories#Too many subcategories

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is the current redirect target (and this reflects the merge)

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also has a parameter that can be used to tag redirects like

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Draft:Template: R from middle name and surname combinations

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is where I would like to redirect "Blackjack (video game)".

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about foreign language redirects. The ones in question are

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too. But some redirects are at the same time tagged with

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the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page

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There is also the option to link to the correct spelling:

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Double soft redirect

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Rethinking "R to project namespace" & "R to subpage"

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as clear as possible and easy to use for all editors. –

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category a container for subcategories and redirecting

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for more information. We can see that another editor,

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redirect page should be listed in a printed version of

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is really accurate. That why we need a new template.

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This would be a good time to use the 1st parameter of

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Yes, if the above proposed list is not too unwieldy.

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Flags of active autonomist and secessionist movements

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redirect, I discovered what I think is a flaw in the

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Category:Redirects to Knowledge (XXG) project pages

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At present, "Harvey Fichstrom" is tagged with 735:"For more information, follow the category link." 655:parameter holds the "from" language code for the 6007:, which is actually an alternative spelling of 5897:I started a thread on doing these redirects at 5489:Cool, thank you. So, I have some tools for you: 4557:if they have not already done so. Best Regards, 4105:Actually, this may be a very good catch by you, 2743:This presently displays as "a redirect: From an 908:I like to use the "Redr" template, an alias for 4275:Knowledge (XXG):Manual of Style/Capital letters 2599:Not sure about a template, but an rcat such as 2126:Category:Fictional character redirects to lists 2871:Arghh, it's worse than I thought. As shown in 2811:, seems to agree with you, and has turned the 706: 4630:. Interested editors are welcome. Thank you. 4615:Redirects with specific disambiguation errors 3294:admins, I guess I hadn't really noticed that 2537:where they do, should they be marked as such? 2273:To mend redirects linking to article sections 2010: 1795:Category:British children's book illustrators 1364:That's the one I was looking for, thank you. 485:Category:Redirects from alternative languages 8: 5815:be sufficient to cover redirects that use a 5363:Category:Redirects from ambiguous sort names 5166:to generate lists of redirects to feed to a 4445:. Interested editors are welcome. Thank you. 1766:See more categories and inter-language links 1419:is another possible target for the redirect. 5123:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject South Australia 3921:Redirect from alternative language category 3848:Redirect from alternative language category 3023:Knowledge (XXG) talk:Categorizing redirects 1736:Redirects in article categories, workaround 6034:(but that's clearly not true) and also as 5994:Suggesting creation of new rcat template: 5102:Hi everyone, I am an editor who lives in 4330: 4209:Redirects to Knowledge (XXG) project pages 3643:Pointer to relevant discussions elsewhere. 3178: 2889:(NLM style, mis-named as ISO 4 style) and 939:Thanks for the advice. I've been aware of 740: 407:those languages). Do I put five copies of 402:which redirects to Dracula is listed as a 6013:, which in turn is an alternate name for 4173:at one time were placed in one category, 2285:#Local Heads of Government (1790–present) 2174:instead if no one objects to that plan.-- 1789:Thus, voila, navigation at one remove to 475:, that was my one mistake for the year. 182:Thank you, Steel1943, for thinking of me. 18:Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Redirect 5923:This redirect is currently discussed at 5803:How to categorize hybrid name redirects? 5728:, I believe I've fulfilled your request 5634:. Interested editors may participate at 3456:I agree. I think a broader proposal for 1662:Hello! 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E.g., 476: 409:Template:R from alternative language 404:Template:R from alternative language 5661:Admin assistance needed with Kanata 5181:was deleted in November 2009 after 4924:Commons soft redirects with content 4807:It sounds as if you need to open a 4391:Knowledge (XXG):Moderators/Proposal 4315:Last two letters transposed --: --> 3747:Category:Redirects to project space 2898:The New England Journal of Medicine 2341:To clarify, I meant whether or not 2012:You are invited to a discussion at 1561:Template:No redirect is not working 5361:Thanks. I have actually created a 5187:Category:Knowledge (XXG) redirects 4991:discussion has been initiated for 4671:discussion has been initiated for 4486:discussion has been initiated for 1923:have been nominated for deletion. 1744:Prompted by discussion elsewhere ( 1095:R from alternative scientific name 889:R from alternative scientific name 792:is a (very common) misspelling of 24: 4398:Request for Comment on a proposal 4053:") redirects to "Knowledge (XXG): 3425:" option in certain scenarios of 2966:Oh, but arggghhhh. I missed that 2172:Category:Main_namespace_redirects 2153:Category:Main_namespace_redirects 1984:Can someone please take a look... 1631:An RfC has been opened to see if 1224:{{DEFAULTSORT:Fichstrom, Harvey}} 781:Categories for "double" redirects 395:Redirect from Multiple languages. 5819:cross mark scheme? 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If you click on the 108:Knowledge (XXG):Printworthiness 5901:and would appreciate comments. 5780:Redirects to global user pages 4997:Template:R from ambiguous term 4993:Template:R from ambiguous page 4974:Template:R from ambiguous page 4940:, contain see also sections, 4843:Category:Printworthy redirects 4575:07:53, 21 September 2016 (UTC) 3375:forum (with the exceptions of 3118:. That's just what I needed.-- 2907:and the sans-definite-article 2444:Page mover user right proposal 2056:Bot to check section redirects 1917:Category:Printworthy redirects 1879:00:29, 10 September 2015 (UTC) 1382:New target for an R from Merge 1029:Template:R from incorrect name 208:Category:Printworthy redirects 1: 5638:at templates for discussion. 5628:Template:Wikispecies redirect 5462:National flower of Azerbaijan 5128:My questions are as follows: 4590:Template:Double soft redirect 4282: 4080: 3722:07:14, 26 February 2016 (UTC) 3701: 3673:06:43, 26 February 2016 (UTC) 3652: 2895:(ISO 4 style) to redirect to 2430:11:12, 19 February 2016 (UTC) 2407:07:01, 19 February 2016 (UTC) 2385:01:46, 19 February 2016 (UTC) 2360:16:26, 16 February 2016 (UTC) 2330:11:56, 16 February 2016 (UTC) 2306:06:55, 16 February 2016 (UTC) 2265:04:24, 11 February 2016 (UTC) 2251:04:15, 11 February 2016 (UTC) 2217:03:48, 11 February 2016 (UTC) 2184:23:17, 29 December 2015 (UTC) 2165:18:58, 29 December 2015 (UTC) 2138:15:20, 29 December 2015 (UTC) 2111:21:15, 22 December 2015 (UTC) 2081:15:21, 19 December 2015 (UTC) 2050:12:35, 12 December 2015 (UTC) 1912:Printworthy and Unprintworthy 1855:10:17, 2 September 2015 (UTC) 1730:23:11, 9 September 2015 (UTC) 1691:13:53, 7 September 2015 (UTC) 1296:22:43, 23 February 2015 (UTC) 1281:17:32, 22 February 2015 (UTC) 1251:10:49, 21 February 2015 (UTC) 1228:{{DEFAULTSORT:Zemack, Harve}} 1117:10:49, 21 February 2015 (UTC) 1068:17:42, 17 February 2015 (UTC) 980:20:34, 23 November 2014 (UTC) 959:18:43, 23 November 2014 (UTC) 935:22:04, 21 November 2014 (UTC) 843:20:45, 21 November 2014 (UTC) 775:09:50, 21 February 2015 (UTC) 755:18:02, 18 February 2015 (UTC) 722:07:31, 15 February 2015 (UTC) 304:00:22, 2 September 2014 (UTC) 281:23:38, 1 September 2014 (UTC) 6001:This is because of redirect 5998:and corresponding category. 5132:Is the above proposal is OK? 4751:16:16, 8 November 2016 (UTC) 4733:14:07, 3 November 2016 (UTC) 4688:09:03, 17 October 2016 (UTC) 4677:Template:R from abbreviation 4648:18:24, 13 October 2016 (UTC) 4610:10:30, 13 October 2016 (UTC) 4201:Redirects to user namespace‎ 4189:Redirects to category space‎ 4183:Redirects to help namespace‎ 3677:PS: In a similar vein, I've 2827:Template:R from abbreviation 2738:Template:R from abbreviation 2534:should such redirects exist? 2007:MediaWiki interface and Redr 2002:23:23, 8 November 2015 (UTC) 1978:06:08, 27 October 2015 (UTC) 1959:06:01, 26 October 2015 (UTC) 1905:10:34, 22 October 2015 (UTC) 1824:Protected redirect templates 1751:Illustration of workaround: 1542:I have opened an RfC at the 1417:This Atari 2600 game article 1302:Template R from xyz for BLPs 701:Maybe another step toward a 696:Knowledge (XXG):Printability 677:19:50, 24 January 2015 (UTC) 638:11:55, 24 January 2015 (UTC) 596:01:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC) 552:23:03, 19 January 2015 (UTC) 527:21:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC) 465:19:25, 19 January 2015 (UTC) 421:17:23, 19 January 2015 (UTC) 390:16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC) 210:. 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