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Heh. I just looked and it appears to be a private FB page - I would have to send him a friend request, and not sure I'll do that. His Twitter page is another option. Alternatively it may be better to just change the article to "grew up in Texas" until an RS proving it one way or the other turns up.--
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Hanakaze is largely finished. I did check thoroughly the veracity of his longest career ever, it took time and a huge excel sheet but he is the longest by a few years. Just need to source it, mostly from sumo reference. I found nothing about his younger years on my own in any language, and apparently
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I would LOVE to have a Hanakaze article. He's the longest serving rikishi EVER. And the only one older than me. :) When he passed longest serving mark, I wanted to make the article, but I just didn't have the time or perhaps even more the inclination I used to. I can absolutely dig up a pic for it; I
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in Houston. Looking around online, I find no RS that gives this information, and though I did find one discussion board post that stated definitively that he was born in Japan, it was just the proverbial 'something I found on the internet'. This has BLP implications, and more trivially, affects in
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Yeah, I get all that, but the post I saw said he was born in Japan then taken to Texas in infancy (though, again, it was just from some guy on the internet). We know he grew up in Texas, and we know he is listed with hometown of Nagasaki, but if we are going to definitively state his birthplace we
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I have never seen any source say that he was not born in Texas. All indications are that he was born there and listed Nagasaki as his shussin because of his Japanese nationality and to not take up a foreigner spot in his stable. I get that "from Texas" doesn't definitively mean "born in Texas" but
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There are currently 4 used colors in those tables: retirement, lower division, 2nd place, and winner. I suggest adding another one for the best rank up to that point, since for rikishi with long careers it is useful to see how long ago did that person was at his best, especially when that person
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Texas. I think changing his page is in order unless a definitive statement turns up, but (and this is getting into the Knowledge (XXG) weeds a little bit) we would still need to list him as either US-born or 'Japanese-born of mixed parentage' on the List of non-Japanese sumo wrestlers page.
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due to being undersourced. I'll work on it but if anyone can add some secondary sources (there must be some Japanese press coverage) that would be a great help. He has a good chance of making makuuchi after this tournament so notability is not a problem.--
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really should have a source that says so directly rather than us trying to deduce it from hints and whispers - I would try dropping him a quick question on his Facebook page, but that would require me to sign up for Facebook, which is not going to happen.
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take one every time I see him. I see he has a ja wiki article. I often source my rikishi article from the Japanese sources. Actually, I feel like I should make the time for him. I will try to put up an article TOMORROW! Let me have this one if I may!
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So I put up an Abi article, surprised no one beat me to it with all the attention around him. Take a look when you have minutes. If we follow the original criteria (which I might repost) the next best candidate with his juryo championship.
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the person who made his jawiki articles didn't either. I was amazed to discover I couldn't find a pic of him. I think I have been to quick to delete recently. I even found one of Hokutoryu but not him. I will get one in September.
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I held off because I had no picture, and because sourcing is my least favorite wiki chore - but I just remembered him and figured I would get his article up and worry about the picture this coming September. Here he is, enjoy
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so I'm going to be going over those articles very soon and adding in what I've found to help enhance them. I've already updated the gyōji article with what I've found. So those are my main sumo projects right now.
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I just asked the man himself. He said he was born in Houston. I figured there was a chance he was born in Nagasaki because Japanese women often go “home” to give birth, but this is not the case with Ichiro.
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article in sandbox as he is the highest ranked rikishi without an article. He only has 2 kk but he is likely to be in makuuchi for a while and is a 2 time juryo champion. Should be up by Monday.
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I would love to help. I enjoy Sumo. I know they have articles in the Japanese Knowledge (XXG) on these topics as well. Haven't checked out your draft, you may be using that as a template.
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The English language sources I found were blogs and forums (very well-informed admittedly). He might get a write-up on an RS site when he retires, which can't be too far away.
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The above entry does make me think that at some point we will need a separate article about the whole Harumafuji-Takanoiwa business. I was wondering what the title should be.
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I had hoped John Gunning might have said something about it in one of the articles he has written on foreign and mixed-race wrestlers, but he only says Wakaichiro is
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the sources I've seen say his first experience of Japan was visiting an elementary school in Nagasaki during summer vacations and picking up a bit of Japanese eg
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so why not Hanakaze. It would be helpful though if there was some coverage of him in the Japanese press so we could have a secondary source too.--
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states that he was born in Houston, Texas, giving a citation that consists of an interview with the subject. However, he only says he was
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that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
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posted but could do with a picture. I also had some problems with the refs from the Japanese wiki article so it's still a bit rough.
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Both won Sansho in their makuuchi debut - I assume we want to create these? Anyone working on them? --
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If he has a ja wiki article that's a good indication of notability in my book. Go for it :) --
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As we have some recent articles on wrestlers notable (?) for things other than their success (
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who I created after his juryo yusho is probably going to be demoted to makushita....)--
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Is that acceptable, or would they just be deleted? I would like to help write them.
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Yep, three kachi koshi in a row in makuuchi so he looks like he’s staying around.
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I looked over it briefly and just edited a few things to make it sound better.
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We don’t currently have any, but I am working on one in draft form:
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OK. Better if we had an explicit ref, but at least it's right.
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candidate - would you have any objections if I nominated it?--
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and we usually do juryo winners. (Although I noticed that
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There's a recently created article on juryo rikishi
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Index

Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Sumo
archive
current talk page
Pawnkingthree
talk
15:13, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
Abi
Ryūden
Pawnkingthree
talk
12:34, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
79.116.217.141
talk
08:34, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
FourTildes
talk
05:00, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Abi Masatora
Daiamami
List of sumo tournament second division champions
Amakaze
Pawnkingthree
talk
12:32, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Popapop2
talk
22:25, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
gyōji
dohyō
shinpan

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