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English translation of the title of the reference, but I agree with Xfansd that I don't think it's mandatory. That header suggests the article could be put up for AfD in two weeks if it's not addressed? Never heard of that, and I don't see how it could be a valid reason for
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for about a month after today and will be unable to contribute during that time, including during and after the current tournament. Thanks!
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