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235: 211: 543: 329: 179: 77: 53: 380: 22: 245: 1174: 1070: 808:" in some cases circumstances. JNR/JR EMUs have a nearly identical naming convention. While this might have been fine when Knowledge (XXG) was smaller, Knowledge (XXG) has grown significantly since the mid-2000s and is constantly growing. With this in mind, my main concern with the current naming conventions that are currently used will 91: 1252:
been anywhere near Japan and I'm pretty sure that I couldn't so much as read a road sign or ask a cop for help on my own. I'm utterly dependant on machine tools like Google Translate (carefully applied and checked — I'm well aware that it can't be simply trusted as is!), the "10ten" dictionary-lookup browser plugin (an
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want people to look this over, particularly people knowledgeable of Japanese railways and people fluent in both Japanese and English. My Japanese ability is, in my own judgment, non-existent; while I have learned some features of the language on my own, and I do know bits of vocabulary, I've never
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Unfortunately, the original Japanese article does not have inline citations of its sources, and none of those sources are online anyway (they're rather old and Japanese-only), so I haven't been able to check them directly.
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become an ambiguity nightmare (had they not been already). I thus propose that the convention for JNR and JR stock be more similar to the one this project follows for EMUs (and DMUs?) operated by private railways (e.g.
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I can't be of much help with this task, unfortunately, also lacking Japanese language skills. Translating from other wikipedia versions without checking the sources can be a bit risky though.
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parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present.
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Quality assessments by Knowledge (XXG) editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at
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However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass
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I know the naming convention I'm proposing is already applied to most JR Shikoku multiple units, but those are exceptions to the current naming convention.
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Eight months have passed since your proposal, but what happened? I think it's time to put it into practice because there's a majority in favor.
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No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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I think this should be merged too so that it could also match the Japanese wikipedia article, and E7/W7 article.
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as proposed. Long overdue, and also takes care of the mentioned inconsistency regarding JR Shikoku stock.
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aid), and Google Lens (for OCR-reading graphical Japanese text) to do something like this.
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for standardization with Japanese pages and with E7/W7 and removal of duplicate content.
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At the time of writing this, JNR/JR DMUs have either a naming convention of "KiHa
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almost completely, basing the rewrite on a translation of the Japanese version
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Naming convention for JR/JNR multiple units (not including Shinkansen stock)
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for a merger; for standardization's sake due to the E7/W7 series article.
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I am still pretty sure about the basic correctness of the results, but I
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, you can visit the
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Move proposal: Asakusa Station and associated disambiguation page
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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Notability#Notability of train stations
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that could be of interest to members of this WikiProject.
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that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
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