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So the name of the software package went around in a circle, the parent company of the same name died, and here we are. SONAR by itself doesn't need to exist as its own Knowledge (XXG) entry, but there it is, and when I created the Cakewalk by BandLab article, I left it, partly because I have no idea
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I propose that this page be reserved (reverted if possible) for its original use, to provide a historical description of pre-Sonar Cakewalk, rather than trying to include detailed information about the new Cakewalk by BandLab (except of course a reference to any new page if and when it is created).
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For parties enthused about telling the story, Cakewalk by BandLab seems like a great subject for its own page now that it has been around for a year and correct information is plentiful. The page for Sonar was one of the worst I've ever seen for a consumer software product, especially one with a
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The software package known as Cakewalk, then SONAR, then Cakewalk by BandLab originated with Twelve Tone Systems. Twelve Tone Systems was purchased by Roland, who changed the company's name to Cakewalk Inc. and the name of the software package to SONAR. Later, Roland sold the company to
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Cakewalk, Inc. was dissolved by Gibson and is no more. Cakewalk, Inc.'s code, trademarks, and other intellectual property were then purchased by BandLab Technologies. So far the only one of the former Cakewalk, Inc.'s products to be released by BandLab is SONAR, now renamed Cakewalk by
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how to merge articles. At this point, Cakewalk_SONAR should no longer be its own article, and just redirect to Cakewalk by BandLab. All the article does is create confusion between the older product and the current product.
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While historically significant, I don't believe that the Twelve Tone Systems Cakewalk sequencer warrants its own article, rather it should be properly listed as the first product made by Twelve Tone/Cakewalk Inc. in the
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The current Cakewalk by BandLab is so far removed from the original MIDI sequencer that their connection is in name only. Having them in the same article would further confuse an already confusing history.
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There is no need to clutter this historical page with ongoing descriptions of a new program that is in active development decades after the original Cakewalk (as described here) changed its name to Sonar.
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There were edits that were apparently made around the time of the BandLab IP acquisition when there was perhaps little or conflicting information to go on. I've been doing my best to correct them.
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The original Cakewalk sequencer program and the company that made it are, IMO, historically significant, but have nothing to do with Cakewalk by BandLab, so they should stand.
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would be in this proposal. The company and product histories are a bit bushy here and somewhere explaining all that would be welcome. ~
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Hmm, do I maybe need to spell that out better in the article? 34 years of corporate and trademark changes is indeed "bushy."
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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to be a copyright violation then that image should be used in this article and the local fair use version deleted.
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Stale discussion with opposition; indications that the articles are not closely related enough to merge.
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The image of Cakewalk 5.0 for DOS was uploaded to Commons with a Creative Commons license as
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30-year history, and it can doubtlessly be improved upon with a little effort.
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as a separate article for the company. See some previous discussion at
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screenshot (legally permissible if used in accordance with the
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article. There is now an article on its namesake, the current
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I have uploaded a copy of the screenshot locally as
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