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274: 242: 258: 401: 306:"The introduction of jet engines and the subsequent rough doubling of aircraft speeds greatly reduced the effectiveness of the SPAAG against attack aircraft." In Vietnam war 50-70% of the annual loss was caused by conventional anti-aircraft weapons (e.g. 23mm and 57mm automatic guns and KS-19 100mm guns; the vast majority without radar control). Therefore, this statement is not valid at all. See: 22: 127: 199: 188: 177: 85: 53: 166: 155: 450:
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A figure caption in the text says "The ZSU-23 is the canonical modern SPAAG system". Reading the article on ZSU-23-4 I see mixed comments and get the impression that maybe it was but that it may be getting outdated even though it is still used and
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The article currently says "The turrets sported 4 parallel-mount 50 mm machine guns" but I think someone has mistaken .50 caliber (ie. ½ inch or 12,7 mmm) as standing for mm and not .5 inch. 50 mm would be a cannon
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I propose merging that article into this one. There is considerable overlap, including self-propelled gun–missile systems. Keep in mind that the main article is still
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I disagree, Roland is an independent AA system and deserves its own article, this one is about the type.
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Is the ZSU-23 is a canonical modern SPAAG system or was it?
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