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I did not mean to restore the change to Chushi
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Tibetans are (or at least were) related but distinct groups, although Tibetans have historically claimed that Khampa are just eastern Tibetans. The Khampa, for their part, fought against the Tibetans a lot in the early 20th century, as Tibet tried to
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IMO, the main issue is the lack of a proper "Chushi
Gangdruk insurgency" article. The 1959 Tibetan uprising and Chushi Gangdruk's activities influenced each other, but were ultimately disctinct events with very different backgrounds. Perhaps the berst course of action would be to remove Chushi
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Tibetans, they were not Tibetan.
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