Talk:2006 Formula One World Championship

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of both names, for example Williams-Cosworth, Super Aguri-Honda. BMW Sauber F1 Team registered (With the FIA) their chassis constructor as Sauber and the engine as BMW. This was because the whole factory at Hinwil is all Sauber staff, and because the development for the C25 (Or whatever it would have been called) was already underway under the Sauber name. When this changed to the F1.06, BMW, presumably for the reasons above, decided to keep the chassis constructor as Sauber. If you don't take into account what the teams have registered their teams as to the FIA, the only official account that can be given, then why bother taking anything from them into account, ie. rules, results etc. But as I say, BMW Sauber is the ENTRANT.

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this has arisen from confusion as to what the meaning of the constructor is. The problem arises with teams like Williams, Red Bull Racing, BMW Sauber, MF1, STR and Super Aguri. Their construcor names are Williams-Cosworth, RBR-Ferrari, Sauber-BMW, MF1-Toyota, STR-Cosworth and Aguri-Honda respectively but this is not the case on the page. If we want to be consistent, the names need to be changed, but I'm not going to do it until we agree on what is right, otherwise we'll just be changing back and forth all the time, and not helping anyone.

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not the same as the car manufacturer. IMHO, we should have the engine column like the chassis column, just naming the engine designation, and the capacity/cylinders. With teams like Renault, Ferrari, Toyota, Honda, the engine name is repeated again, which is the same as the constructor. I don't understand how you think that the constructor can be anything else, when it clearly states in the FIA regs that it is a combination of chassis and engine manufacturers' names.

1161: 2093:), but Red Bull are currently British (Because they run with a British license), but have lodged an application for an Austrian license, thus it is showing in the constructors' table that they are Austrian. Officially though, they are not. You may change it to British if you want, and then we can change it back when they do get their license from Austrian authorities. A team's nationality has no connection with the nationality of their drivers, though. 264: 2954: 1211: 1130: 1240: 1073: 2433:

column should be removed, and not re-instated. If we add a column for lubricant, why not wheel supplier, helmet supplier, clothing supplier, footwear, carbon-fibre, caterer, trucks... The list goes on. Car, engine, tyre, driver and test driver is plenty. It's all the information a regular fan needs, and more enthusiastic fans know where to look for additional information.

202: 1223: 1147: 1109: 378: 233: 483:. Well then you guys have to change the Constructors name for Red Bull to RBR, SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO to STR. By the way that entry list out dated on FIA site... Also Midland is written all over the rear wing on the new chassis. Even it is stated as Midland for the chassis name not as MF1, MF1 is just short name like it is for RBR. Midland Official Site - 3818: 3583: 254: 2868:. The team was officially named MF1 Racing at the start of this season and was not able to change its name without unanimous consent which was never granted (nor was it sought as far as I know). Neither Spyker F1 nor Spyker MF1 exist at present (although the 2007 entry list may say different - I haven't checked!) 2479:

Tyres have no bearing on the success of a Formula One team? Interesting. Ferrari might disagree given the disaster of last season, and Renault obviously disagreed at Hockenheim. Lubricants don't win or lose championships (unless a lubricant is deficient, causing failures etc.) We have to draw a line,

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I know how advertising works. I have been involved in Formula statistician for 12 years, now also a statistician on autosport.com and forix.com because of accurate research. Even have corrected formula1.com several times with their heaps of data errors. Well, lets wait and see what the first round of

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estimates will earn Ferrari $ 1 billion. Tobacco hasn't been banned from F1 anyway. The EU has issued a directive requiring national govs to ban tobacco advertising. Hence the tobacco teams have run with "subliminal" tobacco branding in specific countries. If it was up to the FIA, Ecclestone and most

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Fair enough then the pages are set up right enough. Spyker MF1 redirects to Spyker F1 and MF1 Racing redirects to Midland F1. Only question I have is that the results for the team are reflected on the info boxes for both. I would say Spyker F1 did not take part at all in 2006 so they should not have

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was referring to the big race result table and the smaller starts/points/poles/wins/podiums/fastest laps table for each group as having "the same data twice." I disagree, as the latter has stats that are not present in the former (namely poles and fastest laps) as well as stats that can be compiled

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It won't be in a couple of years time if teams will be able to buy chassis from other teams, and for what it's worth, the lack of seperation of 'team' and 'constructor' cause confusion for any year before about 1980 - for example no visible wins for Rob Walker's team because they mostly raced Cooper

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I've just changed them to the official names (Which appear on the television broadcasts). BMW are Sauber-BMW, Red Bull/Toro Rosso actually use abbreviations of their names (RBR and STR) and Super Aguri only use the Aguri part. I think the engines would be better linked to the F1 team, as it's really

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I understand what an entrant is, I understand what a Chassis manufacturer is and I understand what an Engine manufacturer is. Under the FIA regulations as posted above, the constructor is the name of the car, which is consisted of the chassis manufacture followed by the engine manufacturer, if it is

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Well, all F1 cars look the same these days anyway, don't they? Well, strictly speaking, the STR01 is basically an updated RB1 (last year's RBR car), wheras the RB2 is a new concept, built from stratch. STR say that the car is not an updated RB1, because all teams have to build their own chassis, but

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I'm not sure what your question is. If you're asking whether engines must be used for two successive races, then, yes they do, same as last year. As for being stripped down, I haven't heard about that - last year the FIA put a tamper-proof seal on them between races so that they couldn't be rebuilt.

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I'll explain. BMW Sauber F1 Team is the "ENTRANT" name of the team. Constructor names are taken from the chassis builder and the engine builder. If both are the same, for example Ferrari, Toyota, Renault, Honda etc, the CONSTRUCTOR is simply that. If they are different, the constructor takes account

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purchased MF1 Racing. But, was constructor's name (MF1 Racing) in the entry list changed at the last 3 races? In my recognition, I think that Spyker arranges her own name as a title sponsor in front of the name of the MF1 Racing, because the approvals of other all team were necessary for the change

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I see very little difference also, and would like to get rid of the "Standing by Team" table. The colors were originally distributed after which team got the most points in a race – i.e. in the Spanish GP, McLaren's best result was Räikkönen 5th place, but the team would still be colored bronze, as

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Might be nice, but would not match with the way the FIA treats them. Motorsport, like the Olympics, but unlike football, works at the level of the UK. All the English, Scottish and Welsh drivers are also British and are treated as such by the FIA as far as I can see. Better I think to stay with the

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If Button is listed at British at his webpage, let him be British here as well. From what I've understand, Coulthard is very proud to be Scottish. Why not let him be Scottish here? The consistency is that both are listed by the nationality that they use themselves. The UK is very special, by having

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I know this may not be a popular idea, but why not just eliminate the constructor column altogether, and simply write the chassis name in the chassis column (as "Red Bull RB2") and the engine name in the engine column (as "Ferrari 056 2.4L V8), and just leave it to people to figure out on their own

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I disagree. I always thought the "Constructor" name was specifically the name of the constructor of the chassis, while Entrant name (as specified in FIA regulations) is the "Team Name"-"Engine" (engine omitted where same as team). So Williams is the constructor and Williams-Cosworth is the Entrant.

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Can we come to some sort of an agreement regarding the constructor in the above mentioned table. The table heading clearly states that the second column should contain the F1 Constructor names, but as of now, they don't. Instead they contain a mix of the constructor names and race entrants. I think

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So it is pssible the team will be listed as MF1-Toyota M16 on the official race results. I hope they will make it as Midland-Toyota M16, sounds much better. Well lets wait and see what the first round of the championship will give us. Best solution! Don't you all agree. On the Midland web page the

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All testing data is unofficial, as there is no official timekeeper for the tests unlike the races. Regarding the sillyness of the name, there have been names just as silly in the championship, like BAR. BTW, it doesn't take a genius to spot the mistakes on F1.com, and I can say that after only two

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Thanks for finding that, AlbinoMonkey. That's a bizarre reason for changing the rules - why would you make the engines smaller in order to slow the cars down and then allow them to speed up again by going for softer (i.e. shorter lived) tyres! I'll see if I can cook up some (referenced!) words on

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That doesn't suggest San Marino. As far as I know, MF1 are yet to confirm their third driver for San Marino. I expect a preview from them in the coming days, but until then we should leave Del Monte in the test drivers column. Also, I think they should be kept in the test driver column until they

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A related problem, the opening paragraph says that no British team won a race, yet if you click on the definition for the champions (Renault F1), you're told: "The Renault Formula One team, now registered as Lotus Renault GP, is a British Formula One racing team. It has competed in various forms

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Thanks for sorting that out. By the way, is that a wacky decision from the FIA or what! The French, Japanese and Austrian teams are based in the UK anyway, and how exactly is Williams 'senior' to McLaren, an older team with as far as I remember more success (I actually support Williams more than

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Albinomonkey, you are correct formula1.com uses RBR, STR and Sauber-BMW for space ss I have been told so by them thru email as I have enquired about this. But note the error on the official site as they have listed BAR Honda as the make. That is why us at AUTOSPORT/FORIX have given up with theso

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Entrant is known as when the main sponsor is included, so the official entrant name for Williams-Cosworth is "WilliamsF1 Team", for Renault is Mild Seven Renault F1 Team, Honda is Lucky Strike Honda Racing F1 Team, and so on. I think we should change constructor to Chassis in the Entry Lists so

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After watching Malaysian qualifying today, I think there are quite complicated regs re use of engines. Michael Schumacher qualified 4th but starts 14th on the grid because he needed to change an engine. Massa has had two engine changes (post Bahrain) but he starts ahead of Scott Speed who has no

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Than explain why it says Sauber-BMW (on your lovely official web page) instead of BMW Sauber-BMW. As even BMW shows it as BMW Sauber on their web page. Sauber is no more the constructor, it is as BMW Sauber, also goes the same for the other three teams if you actually take time and read the cars

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I'm not sure name changes are allowed during the season, only between seasons - which may require consent, depending on a few factors, like number of previous changes and the timing of the change (if the new name is given when the team lodge their entry form they don't need permission). They're

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I think it's totally unnecessary to have a column for the lubricant suppliers to teams. Whoever supplies lubricant and fuel to a team has no bearing on the outcome of a race or season as much as the other columns, and the extra addition severly cramps the table. It is my strong opinion that the

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I don't think that would be a good idea. For people not that familiar with F1 it would be difficult to make out, and anyway it will enable people to have a link between what they see on TV and here on Knowledge (XXG). As regards Red Bull's teams, they are Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso

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If you look at article 20 of the 2006 Sporting Regulations, you will see that "If the make of the chassis is not the same as that of the engine, the title will be awarded to the former which shall always precede the latter in the name of the car.", meaning that the car name, or constructor name

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which can probably be fairly summarised as 'reducing costs, increasing safety and contributing to shift away from aerodynamic grip and towards mechanical grip'. Along with a ref to the 2005 Michelin USGP debacle and your ref on potential block voting by RBR Albino, that might make quite a nice

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Another problem I have with having a seperate constructor column and leaving the chassis and engine columns full of just their coded names, is that, as mentioned, the inexperienced or uninformed casual viewer might have a hard time figuring out who exactly builds the chassis and who builds the

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Have a look for yourself. Even when Midland bought Jordan, the chassis was renamed to Midland EJ15B over the winter pre-season testing. Midland is yet to do a official pre-season testing with the Midland M16. Wouldn't it be easier if they just named the chassis as Midland MF1 M16 so that won't

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specs for each team they have it as Midland, Red Bull and Toror Rosso. Seriously I am going to give up with your guys on wikipedia, as there are way too many arguements on there, and I have come across many people who use to deal with wikipedia who also have given up and I don't blame them.

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the championship is going to list the chassis as in the constructors points after round one. I say it will be Midland, but I may can even be mistaken. MF1 does sound silly as a constructor, rather see it as Midland. Even on the testing time sheets the car is listed as Midland-Toyota M16.

1810:. I'm not sure what they're getting at in the last paragraph, although a link could be made that the reason for the change was due to Indygate. But IIRC both Ralf Schumacher and Fernando Alonso had big Michelin tyre failures at Indy in 2004, so it's a strange thing to say in any case. 641:. It clearly states that Midland's Formula One constructor name is "MF1-Toyota". It also states Red Bull as RBR-Ferrari, Scuderia Toro Rosso as STR-Cosworth. I'm changing them now in the article, but please post here before you change it back, because I don't think you should. 2932:

The Link is now broken and therefore the numbers have no source. When a new source appears, perhaps the numbers could be added somewhere else. As for now, I've removed them and made the table conform to the standard used for every other F1 season table on Knowledge (XXG).

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I believe I heard Martin Brundle say during last weekend's commentary that a race engine had to be used for two races (successive I guess). Did I misinterpret what he said? If I heard correctly, can a Bahrain engine be stripped down this week and be rebuilt for Malaysia?

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Well I no longer need to worry too much about wikipedia as I have been accepeted to work for autosport.com and at least they have it all correct, nothing against wikipedia just people don't seem to agree with each other here. I will still support the stats side of it. :)

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I'm not sure if I'm missing something completely obvious, but what is the difference between the Constructors - Standing by Team and Standing by Driver sections, apart from that in one, each row is split into two whilst in the other they're just on different lines???

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As far as I'm concerned a reserve driver doesn't mean third driver, although for most teams it usually does. A reserve driver is one who steps in for a driver who is unable to drive, in the presence of sickness. This driver doesn't have to be the team's third driver.

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entries of the 2006 season. Just because Midland is written all over the back of the rear wing, it doesn't mean that that is their name. It's called advertising, advertising for Midland Group. Renault have Telefonica all over their rear wing, but it's not their name.

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I don't see how "RBR-Ferrari" is less difficult then having "Red Bull RB2" in one column and "Ferrari 056" in another, and I think anyone who watches F1 on TV can figure out that even though the graphic says RBR, the announcers and anyone else call it Red Bull.

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True, but considering he missed out by only 0.064 of a second, if you subtract the time he lost when having to slow down as he came across Schumacher, I'm 110% certain that Alonso would have taken pole. He was definitely likely to take pole, at the very least.

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See also discussion two headings up ^^. The conclusion there was that Red Bull is effectively Austrian. The FIA are treating them as such, at least, although I imagine Manipe is correct on the rules. The article should certainly be internally consistent.

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was registered as, I'd be interested. The article currently calls it an Australian team, but in practice it was based in the UK but largely staffed by Aussies and Kiwis. I suspect it was not registered as Australian, but would like confirmation. Ta.

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Anyone know what nationality Red Bull are registered as? Previous versions of this page had Red Bull as Austrian, but it has recently been changed to UK. The registration with the FIA is the only way to cover this (although it leads to oddities like

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The colour codes are constant over every season on Knowledge (XXG), so if we removed it then it wouldn't be an option for all the seasons when the 107% (and other) rules were in place. I don't think it makes that much of a difference to be honest.

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2. They aren't facts, that's true, so I replaced the information under a "estimated budget" title, but they are better than just a guess: they are the closest possible estimations from a specialized publication, and real figures are unavailable.

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F1 car will be called 'M16', in recognition of the disappearing Jordan name's fifteen year GP history. The car designation is a combination of 'M' for Midland, but also acknowledging that it will be the sixteenth formula one design built in the

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I was wondering the same thing. I mean, they changed their name to Spyker MF1, and they are now referred to as Spyker by both the FIA and the FOA, as well as by the media. On Knowledge (XXG) itself there are already two different articles for

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I agree also, but I think the problem is that news, rumours and everything else has gone into the intro, so much of it belongs either in subsections or on pages for specific races. Is anyone already working on this because if not I'll do it

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Super Aguri's press releases have stated that the car is an "Aguri-Honda". Also, Red Bull Racing's cars last year were refered to as "Red Bull-Cosworth", so I believe this year's cars should be "Red Bull-Ferrari" and "Toro Rosso-Cosworth".

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That would be Mateschitz, new best buddy of Ferrari, aka the new Peter Sauber, would it? :-D I suppose it would be nice to have the official reason (with ref!) followed by some referenced speculation about murky dealings behind the scene.

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I think we've tried to keep all British together, as that is the nationality they are registered as. A couple of times people have gone through and separated them (including Nige Mansell to Isle of Man), but IMO they're all British.

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I've added a "Budget" column in the "Drivers and constructors" table on 25 April 2007. I found this information important for this money-driven modern sport, and that should benefit the article. It was removed on 17 July 2007 by

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as relatively small differences in tyre compound and construction can have a significant effect on lap times, a single tyre supplier would simply ensure that no team would be adversely affected by being contracted to the “wrong”

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In the tables, Coulthard is listed as Scottish, while Button is listed as British. This obviously isn't consistent. They're both British, or Button is English. On Button's website he is listed as British. Anyone care to comment?

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It's the same as last year. The engines must be used in two consequtive races, ie. the exact same engines. The engines can't be rebuilt, otherwise they'd be brand new. It must be the same as the previous race. Same as last year.

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Is the artical not a bit long and takes a while to read. I have tried deleting repeat information etc. But there are 4 tables in a row and the consurutors and drivers tables have the same data twice just in a different order

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Anyone care to include a section on the 'Mass Damper' that seems to have caused such a turnaround in Renaults fortunes, i know nothing personally about what it is, but it may turn out to be crucial for the rest of the season.

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2. Why are MF1 listed as Russian? Apart from one of their extra drivers being Russian, I can't see an association, I can't see any reason not to list them as British but I won't change it as there must be a reason for this. -

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Renault is a British team now, but it wasn't in 2006. Team nationality is determined by its racing licence - if it runs with a British licence, it's a British team. They had a French licence in 2006, and a British one now.

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No, I think I understand it quite well! 'Locking up' is of course a mistake, so it wouldn't really be a problem to say 'mistake'. However, I think the current wording covers his mistake using the words he used. Cheers.

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I have researched the background and edited, including the rule number from the Regulations, the dates etc. I think my review must have immediately followed somebody else's (anon user 86.135.90.6) - apologies!...

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If you're talking about livery, STR updated their livery from the one they used off season, it's now a darker blue with a bit of dark red on the engine cover. Looks a bit like the Midland from a distance, head-on.

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Since FIA remove the 107% gap in the qualifying session in 2003, that's are not driver could be excluded in race day. So why you still include driver not qualify in the color code??? I really not understands???

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The FIA's official entry list for 2006 says that the team will use Sauber-BMW as a constructor, not just Sauber. That's because the car will be made by what used to be Sauber, and the engine will be made by

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I contacted Midland Group themselves and they have responded to my email, the Chassis is Midland-Toyota M16, MF1 is just the trademark, if you all don't believe I can forward the email to you all. Regards.

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I've started on this deleting text which had actually been duplicated more or less entirely in articles for Minardi, SuperAguri and Yuji Ide. Also, moved a driver change section. Any comments welcome

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I didn't hear anything about Del Monte becoming MF1's third driver for San Marino. After the signing, Kolles said that "we look forward to seeing more of his potential at a future Grand Prix weekend."

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Finished cleaning up as far as the mood took me! Have left the "cleanup" tag for now and would appreciate someone looking over the changes and removing the tag if they feel that appropriate. Thanks

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much, the page should settle down over the year - that's the problem with current sporting events! By the end of the year we should end up with a nice clean summary of the season's racing and the

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I had taken the liberty of changing Red Bull's flag from Austrian to British for the 2005 season, because they entered undera British licence that season. The changed to Austrian for 2006, IIRC.

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Unfourtantly this are the entrants name for their teams. Those names won't show up as their Chassis in the FIA points table. We are talking about chassis names not team entrants or constructors.

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the return of tyre changes, despite it losing Michelin's advantage over B'stone. He was the only Michelin team boss to vote for it, and it was not expected to pass. I have a reference for this.

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821:) is not a quote from Bernie, but a quote from Serge Kubla, who claims to be quoting Bernie. This is not yet confirmed, nor can Bernie be contacted for a comment, as he is "out of the country" 793:

Anyone know why the Team/Driver table is appearing at the bottom of the article? In the editing, it appears in the right place. Also, I think the layout of this artcle needs a bit of clean up.

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I'm going to change the references into the preferred standard. I've made a small start on the information that I added today, and I'll finish the job later. Its on my todo list. --

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the constructor's name (Or, did Spyker obtain this approval for the participation in 2006 season? ). To begin with, wasnot the name of the constructor's name in the entry list not

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If he said "he locked up", you can say he said "he locked up". If he said "he made a mistake" you can say he said "he made a mistake". Do you need more examples for clarification?

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I was always quite sure that Renault and McLaren were running Michelin tyres for '06. In fact, I never knew any doubt existed. Despite this, under tures is says TBD. If I could be

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I'm inclined to agree with this one, though - the implication is sufficient and I've seen plenty of laps that looked fantastic halfway through peter out before the finish line. --

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Officially, a team nationality is determined by which national motorsport authority they get their racing license from. MF1 are Russian, because they run under a Russian license (

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is that the reduced engine size will offset any performance gain. However, the 2005 Indianapolis Grand Prix controversy may also be responsible for the return of tyre changes."

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You can state that Alonso was x tenths faster at the end of the first sector, or the beginning of the second, but you cannot say "he was likely". That is entirely speculative.

2271:"Chelem" is literal translation French for "Slam". Grand Chelem means winning everything; Grand Slam. Bit like Grand Prix is French for Big Prize. F1 has French influences. -- 1676:

Logically it would go here, as an explanation of a rule change for this year, but it's unreferenced and possibly POV. Thing is, I've had a quick look at the FIA press release

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as constructor. Is that really correct? I thought BMW Sauber would construct their own car, now when they have factories both in Hinwil, Switzerland and in Munich, Germany. --

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Tobacco might be (and possibly will be) banned from Formula One from 2006 onwards.So I am not sure that the title sponsors (Ferrari,Renault,BAR,Midland) will stay that way.

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I believe it means he got the win from pole, led every lap and got fastest lap, but yes it does need a translation or something. Can someone confirm my understanding? --

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is titled "Midland MF1 Racing", which indicates that Midland is the title sponsor (eg Panasonic Toyota Racing, West McLaren-Mercedes) and MF1 Racing is the constructor.

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