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1382:; nothing in the article for Satty, which only mentions the older news of him being a CNI informant; and nothing in this article on the attacks, which doesn't mention Villarejo or the CNI anywhere; and though it references Satty several times as an alleged attacker or mastermind, it doesn't even mention him being a CNI informant, let alone these latest allegations. Given the severity and sources of the allegations, and the measure of credence given to them by the Catalan executive, it feels very remiss to not add this information to both this article on the attacks and the article on Satty. -- 776: 377: 350: 552: 437: 272: 605: 584: 250: 1211: 220: 930: 909: 825: 804: 319: 835: 710: 700: 673: 496: 469: 1255: 1377:
from today where Puigneró threatens to take it all the way to the International Criminal Court. So it's definitely become a real story, regardless of what the facts uncover, and this should be reflected on Knowledge. So far, Villarejo's allegations of CNI involvement in the attacks are mentioned
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was involved in the attacks: “I continued to work with the CNI until the last day. I worked with them to try to fix the mess of the famous attack by the Imam of Ripoll, which in the end was a serious mistake by Sanz Roldán, who miscalculated the consequences of making a small scare action in
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and 2016) which could justify the disambiguation to help identify both articles. No such thing happens for this article. Such a naming proposal would also be against
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I came here to say the same thing, this should definitely be mentioned. Multiple sources are reporting this but it's being largely ignored. The wiki article for
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1511: 1491: 1421: 1304:) Is this worth integrating into the article? The sourcing seems a bit thin at first blush, but I'm not familiar with the subject. -- 181: 1461: 1120: 148: 857: 732: 1496: 1323:, the alleged mastermind of the attack (according to his article and this one) already mentions he was a CNI informant, citing 937: 914: 446: 360: 112: 43: 1238:
Building credited as Nereu Ramos Palace is actually Brazilian National Congress Palace, so that's what I was trying to edit.
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page has also recently gotten its present name with the addition of 'truck' rather than just attack.
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because the scope of the article involves a set of several events, not just the van attack.
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that in such case, there were two Islamic terrorist attacks in a short timespan (
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