1839:, you are in error about the name Ghost Ship. Please take a look at the photo in the article of the gutted warehouse. By the way, I took that photograph. You will see that the name "GHOST SHIP" was painted on the front of the building in letters about three feet high and running about twenty feet long, highly visible from the public street. Please also read the coverage in reliable sources well over two years after the fire. There are plenty of current articles because two people are now on trial. I just did a Google News search for "Oakland warehouse fire trial". Note that I did not search for "Ghost Ship". About 80% of the reliable sources used "Ghost Ship" in their headlines. Your determination to keep Oakland in the title because of the city's alleged negligence is soapboxing and advocacy. Personally, I am quite upset with Oakland officials, but I do not express that in my Knowledge (XXG) editing because NPOV is a core content policy.
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1107:, although that is irrelevant to this question. The fire took place in a structure housing relatively young people often engaged in "experimental" practices. That is what art often is. It is highly experimental. An encyclopedia shouldn't fall victim to hype and creative language. There is nothing ghost-ship-like about a place to live and work, largely experimentally. A disaster was bound to happen. Why should we lop off the term "Oakland"? Is "Ghost Ship" an entirely meaningful term? The title is fine the way it is. Is it so important to make it shorter? Who cares if
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Berkeley and Fremont that we need to differentiate this one from by calling it Oakland Ghost Ship fire? If the answer is no, we are adding additional words for no purpose against policy.
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