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3713: 668: 647: 1534:, and so we should be straying away from titles that include and/or place emphasis on the shooting's location, as there have been many shootings in Kansas City, and many shootings at stations named "Union Station", as others in this conversation have pointed out. As far as I'm aware, this is the first time one has occurred at a Super Bowl parade, and placing emphasis on this instead will lead to a more natural article title that does away with a need to disambiguate with "2024". — 233: 452: 431: 678: 873: 3312: 3076: 549: 528: 3356: 3334: 3290: 3269: 3239: 3221: 3055: 3015: 2621: 2581: 2552: 2530: 2509: 2487: 3607: 3585: 3563: 3542: 3520: 3491: 3469: 3447: 3426: 3378: 3192: 3170: 3148: 3127: 3098: 3033: 2986: 2964: 2943: 2925: 2896: 2874: 2852: 2831: 2813: 2784: 2762: 2738: 2716: 2695: 2673: 2643: 2603: 2469: 559: 797: 779: 3663: 203: 2273:- Personally am okay if the year ends up not being removed, though my preference would be to remove it. I do have a concern that there might have been a parade leading up to the Super Bowl around or on February 11, which could make some of the options below slightly misleading. Other than those two things, I am okay with both the current title and some of the alternates. -- 315: 367: 346: 2160:
is in spirit meant to be reserved for recognisably historic events, I still find it unnecessary to disambiguate "Kansas City parade shooting" or "Kansas City Super Bowl parade shooting", as I'm at a loss to think of anything that they could be confused with. In the specific context of parades held in
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There was consensus to retain the current title. Per the poll, 4 editors supported retaining the current name and 1 opposed, while 6 editors supported "Kansas City Super Bowl parade shooting", 1 was neutral, and 1 opposed. However, RM discussions are !votes, so I evaluated arguments based in policies
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Also, strong oppose "Kansas City Super Bowl parade shooting" - that's not in any way an improvement on the current status quo, and while there are some "votes" for it in the "poll" below, I don't see any guideline-based rationale for such a title, which is required per
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per common name. Also This wasn't the only notable shooting at Union Station as there was a major FBI shootout in 1933 that became notable in Kansas City History and actually is what many of us in the area had thought of in the proposed name here upto today's incident.
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is something to think about quite yet. I would wait and see what it ends up being called/what sticks in a week or so. I do think that the KS city union station shooting is too generalized though, and union station/Kansas city massacre (a different event) is too close.
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While I'm not thrilled about using the year, for now this works as a title. In addition, I agree about the potential confusion with the Kansas City massacre. Maybe ultimately title it "Kansas City Chiefs victory parade shooting"? With or without the year?
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level, as references to the primary fact of the shooting being that it happened at a Super Bowl victory parade versus that it happened at a railway station is simply overwhelming and decisive in favour of the former, as demonstrated above. —
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The shooting didn't happen during the parade but after the rally at Union Station had concluded. That being said, the title should be "2024 Kansas City Union Station Shooting" so as not to confuse it with the infamous
2315:- Not my first preference as shown below, but it does make it much clearer where the parade took place over the prior option and there have been no other parade shooting in Kansas City to my current knowledge; 1981:. In the news coverage I've seen (based in the UK), that it took place at the parade has been prominently mentioned multiple times, that it took place at a railway station has been barely mentioned (if at all). 2000:
In Canada, all references are to Kansas City and the Super Bowl parade when it comes to this shooting. Union station is not mentioned. People would associate the Union Station shooting with some other event.
2327:- Still not my first preference, but it is descriptive enough that it has my support overall. It also does cover a potential situation where there was a past parade shooting in Kansas City, which covers 3752:
Based on the timing and the request, I don't think using the "change X to Y" format would work. The request wants to add the names of the two adult suspects to the article, among other details. Given
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naming conventions, and while this was fairly big in the news recently, it's not such a major well-known event that NOYEAR really applies. I don't mind removing "parade", but otherwise leave as is.  —
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change in title. The shooting occurred after the parade and not on the route. It took place west of Union Station and the change to "Kansas City Union Station Shooting" makes more sense.
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That’s not WHY it happened, it’s WHERE it happened. Nonetheless, I think I now would support “2024 Kansas City Union Square shooting” more because I was unaware of the
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I would like to add information about the perpetrators, like names and more information about the motives that were brought up in court and the criminal complaint.
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can be established in the hours immediately following an event such as this. If this was a shooting that had happened at least a year ago, or preferably
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returned no consensus on alternate proposed titles, so let's discuss the specific proposal to remove the year from the title. While I recognise that
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https://nypost.com/2024/02/20/us-news/alleged-kansas-city-chiefs-parade-shooter-lyndell-mays-told-cops-he-was-just-being-stupid-court-docs/
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This story is newsworthy because of the parade. There have been several shootings at Union station with significantly less notability.
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tells that a shootout took place at the same Union Station in Kansas City in 1933, meaning that the year is definitely needed. Move to
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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.
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then I'd agree that you'd be able to demonstrate common name. But not for an even that happened a little under 4 hours ago.
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I have been of the belief that years should generally be included if the event is not of significant interest, such as the
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I am starting this section to begin a poll for which of the existing redirects is the best new title for this article. --
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it's reasonable, the only issue I'd have is with the year, you'd have to put "2024" in the front of the title.
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is most appropriate, but I might be in a minority with that one. Still, the proposed name feel unnatural.
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per Jax 0677. This shooting does not come close to the magnitude/importance of the examples listed in
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per the response from OrlinKolev below, it does look like there is some weak precedent established at
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on this. I do not Oppose the proposed page being used as a Disambiguation page for both incidents.
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Fair points, you're right I wasn't making the public figure distinction. Thanks for the note.
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Generally we only use dates if lack of a date would make the article ambiguous. All the best:
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Do NOT remove the word “Parade” from the title, because that is why the shooting happened.
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for year removal - Sources seem to be more referencing the parade than the union terminal:
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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
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on Knowledge. Feel free to reopen with specific text suggestions and a different source.
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Clear consensus against moving to the title proposed. No consensus on alternate titles.
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and a need for disambiguation from other notable mass shootings in Kansas City.
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for now, this is especially notable because it took place during the parade.
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if appropriate. Also please note that the New York Post is not considered a
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so immediately identifiable that the date is not needed in the article title
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Support current title "2024 Kansas City parade shooting" - oppose move.
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These reasons are directly contrary to one another. All the best:
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https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article285817466.html
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as pointed out below. I still think the year should stay per
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As an initial matter, there was a strong consensus that
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Is there precedence for removing the year? just curious
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