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type of complaint or the region or the timespan. The title of each section is too long and reflects an overly broad view of each subject. Words like "and" almost never belong in a section title. That's a clear indication it should be 2 sections. But most importantly, the content of the article consists entirely of dull, secondhand claims without any effort made to research the claims or provide more context. For example, the section on the rising sun flag lists off the allegations against the flag without any commentary from
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Montreal Games example is particularly egregious - the poor organizers tried their best to be PC by showcasing
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American Olympics to make a deliberate effort to acknowledge and represent indigenous peoples (even if done so problematically). Currently there is a critiquing of presence but not absence, and a lack of balance.
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