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31: 180: 22: 429: 85: 64: 95: 724:), and it looks like things may be far more complicated; some Pen Malaysian sequences clustered with Bornean ones (perhaps suggesting sympatric cryptic diversity) and there are six major clades that could conceivably be separate species. Clearly we don't know much yet about the real diversity of Sunda colugos. 756:
Welcome to the world of "mammals-that-are-almost-like-us-but-not-quite-simian-enough-to-merit-serious-research-by-a-lot-of-people".  ;-) This is why I devote myself to lemuriforms and monitor treeshrew and colugo articles, but not simian articles. If only we knew more about these amazing mammals,
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How many of those results for "flying lemur" pertain to the actual animal, and not the creature from the popular children's show Avatar: The Last Airbender? I would argue that "colugo" is the more correct name and possibly the more popular name for this animal, but more thorough research would be
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Flying Lemur Called Another Close Relative Of Humans] - a 2002 article, which claims that based on mitochondrial DNA studies, colugos should be classed as primates, and are actually quite closely related to humans (not as close as apes, but closer than other primates).
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Unfortunately, they didn't name these new species in the article, so someone will have to go digging to see if that's been done yet (and whether or not its been upheld). For now, all we can note is that two new species may have been found in 2008 and cite that source.
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Obviously this discussion is old but I added a reference with the direct MSW3 link to the family with the two genera listed, for clarity/easy finding if more people wonder about it. Could possibly be done in a smoother way but I'm short of time at the
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Since the "Philippine flying lemur" and "Sunda flying lemur" are commonly known as "flying lemurs" and have "flying lemur" in their common names, why not make the title into "flying lemur" instead of "colugo"? The title is confusing.
321:). A few molecular studies have even recovered colugos within Primates, sister to Anthropoidea (as the original poster here says), but that is probably in error, as other lines of evidence don't support that placement. The book 977: 862:) 15:35, 21 February 2018 (UTC) One criterion that is used to determine popularity of a name is the relative number of results found on a Google search for either name. Flying Lemur: 1,340,000 hits; Colugo: 193,000 hits-- 35: 668:
Yes, we know that there is actually more than one species of Sunda colugo; however, the split hasn't been formalized anywhere as far as I'm aware, and we don't know what the various species should be called.
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and the academic community actually spent time studying them (rather than assuming they know everything already and communicating their out-dated misconceptions to the public.) I'm not jaded... really.
686:, the Red List) still recognize a single species. The molecular study you cite provides evidence that the population on Java, Borneo, and the Malay Peninsula represent distinct species, which would be 982: 863: 546:
Since the "highly distinctive" teeth are discussed, perhaps this image would make a good addition to the article; but I am unsure if, where, or how you might like to place it.
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Yes, the two extant species make up the Cenycephalidae, but according to the scheme at the bottom of the page there are other extinct species in the order Dermoptera. --
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Everything looks fine, though you might make the caption on the toothcomb more general rather than listing an old genus name that's now obviously a synonym.
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Apparently it is not so clearcut. Some recent molecular studies have found colugos to be closer to treeshrews, to the exclusion of primates (see review in
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Article doesn't state if they are nocturnal or diurnal. Looks like something that would be nocturnal but since it glides maybe it's diurnal.
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Scientists discovered that what was once considered a single species living on two separate islands is actually two separate species. "
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by McKenna and Bell (1997) actually classified colugos as primates, but placed all classic primates together in a suborder Euprimates.
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I would be in favor of moving all of these articles to titles with the word "colugo", not the outdated "flying lemur".
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I did the move, and it got reverted. I've made formal requests now. Please support on the two species' talk pages. -
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problems to fix? I'm afraid I'll have to leave it to you kind folks to work this one out. ~Good luck, ~E
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It seems to very very much be a convergent evolution of the sugar glider. Should maybe be mentioned
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What's the source for two genera of flying lemurs? I've always seen both species categorized as
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The article states that they are nocturnal, although no specific reference for this is given.
388:) You can download the data they are using to build the new database with at the same link. - 282: 913: 884: 831: 729: 717: 707: 674: 351: 328: 314: 855: 100: 951: 523: 494: 450: 402: 389: 373: 361: 300: 200: 899: 278: 684: 725: 703: 670: 179: 834:” does not support the notion that colugos make up ~90% of said eagle's diet.-- 376: 90: 761: 656: 587: 510: 237: 721: 428: 384:
Read more carefully. The online database is from 2nd edition (1993). (
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http://www.science.psu.edu/news-and-events/2007-news/Miller10-2007.htm
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Related story with amazing photo (almost certainly not WP usable):
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They are related to Primates but a separate order from Primates.
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Imho you don't have to ask, just go ahead and add it.
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What rainforests specifically do the colugos live in?
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PHOTO IN THE NEWS: New Flying Lemur Species Announced
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to their respective colugo names within 24 hours. -
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Better image - but same as used on species page. ~E
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correct answer as to which order colugos belong in?
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