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nothing, just to fight inclusion of this one verifiable, multiple RS client? I don't understand your goal here. There are other, much, much worse sourced, or unsourced battles to fight, more likely to lead to a win for you. To go forward, shall I call in 3O, or EA? I never object to calling in uninvolved, disinterested third parties. --
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Developers create PAD files that describe their products which are polled by software distribution sites, that is why you see the author's claims duplicated on those sites. I sympathize with the contributors of this article, it must be a discerning task to separate home-grown from notable clients. I
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source (such as the author) is not enough. Clients which do not already have their own articles need two "decent" independent reliable reviews or discussions, or one "excellent" comprehensive one, describing the client, for inclusion. It's not just me saying this: we've arrived at these criteria
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I looked through every review linked on the awards page. They are all quotes of the author's claims about the software, with no reviewer name shown, so they don't help. Don't worry, these things take time. Eventually it will be actually reviewed by CNET, or perhaps Softonic. For more about what we
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And yet Neebly manages to leave it's own mark on the IRC world as a modern looking, easy to use, freeware IRC client for Windows. Neebly is very much a work in progress - new releases are made every 1 or 2 months and it's surrounded by a community of developers who are constantly improving it. It
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What characterizes Neebly is its use of Ribbon menus which gives Neebly a simplified, elegant look no matter now many conversations you have open. It doesn't have all the graphical touches of something like MSN Live Messenger and the stripped down look and server channels give Neebly the look of
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The "list dispute" tag is no longer relevant. The "dispute" has been settled for nearly a year, that reliable sources are required for clients without articles. 1 very good reliable source or 2 passable ones, plus a well-descriptive primary source, has become the defacto standard. There is no
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review, which includes negative comments. Dr. Dobb's' editorial supervision, makes that particular primary source rather strong. I never claimed the primary sources as independent, just multiple primary, with different publication dates and multiple publication media. Are you really conceding
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Discussion is somewhat difficult to find, as although it is one of the most popular IRC client by user count (at least on QuakeNet, where it is only second to mIRC), qwebirc is generally only deployed by a few IRC network administrators, and is then integrated into their own website (ala
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I was paraphrasing, without intention to dilute or alter the (verbose) general inclusion criteria discussion. Here are the full texts of the reviews: the Softonic review is more than two paragraphs. Is it possible you didn't click "read more" (an annoying misfeature of the website)?:
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a review in a download website.... mass-made by an editor who has also made reviews of "Grand Theft Auto IV Series Wallpaper (BB) (Liberty city in your Blackberry)" and "Tema Apple Leopard Today para BlackBerry (Pretend that you have a Mac un your BlackBerry)"
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Articles written by the author about their own programs are not third party. Neither are reviews by acquitances of the author on their own website. Softtonic mass-reviews random programs, with unknown editorial control, which should make it not reliable.
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Nice start - I'll look 'em over. IRCJunkie is the most usable of the lot, but use cases are good, if they write about their experience. Mibbit being dropped? Sounds serious. Some major general tech news outlet or blog should be covering it soon.
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This comparison list of IRC clients seems to only require "verifiability" of a client to be included. I want to point out that irc-junkies.org is authoritative on the subject of IRC clients and includes ThrashIRC in their list of clients.
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This comparison list of IRC clients seems to only require "verifiability" of a client to be included. I want to point out that irc-junkies.org is authoritative on the subject of IRC clients and includes ThrashIRC in their list of clients.
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The last stable release, while readable, is not sortable by short month, day, year. Moving to year, month, day does not fix the problem unless you use a numeric month, but this is not universally readable. Any suggestions?
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Neebly automatically recognizes URLs and gives them browser-like behavior. When typing in a channel's textbox, by pressing tab the auto-completion popup will appear and show all nicknames that start with the typed keyword.
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This depends on the JavaScript for table sorting, hence Wikimedia folks. They may have this on their buglist schedule already. I recommend asking politely for status update on irc wikimedia support channel. Best of luck!
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The idle time of any user is always available in the /whois information. If you accidentally paste multiple lines in Neebly's textbox, it grows and shows everything that has been pasted before sending it to the servers.
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The review is kind of short, but perhaps IRCresource, its staff, and the author "Solitary_scar" can be deemed reliable based on expertise and/or by being cited by other reliable sources. I'll look into it later.
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It will take time, and money. Every site considered to be a good reviewer, also charges for such a wonderful privilege. I don't think we should have to pay CNET just to be listed inside Knowledge (XXG).
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I agree. Thanks for bringing it up, I didn't notice it. Feel free to wait, or to delete at once. Notability cannot be established at this time. I wrote to the article creator that the article should be
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Hello. I can't find any information about a client named rIRC, this project may be dead. However, I have found another project with the same name and a different capitalisation ; rirc, at this address
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The article says that the clients in the purple background aren't in development any longer. However, none of them are listed as purple / out of development. Can someone take a swing at fixing this?
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You can open different chats with different contacts in tabs although this is nothing new - Adium has offered this for a long time although it's a useful way of keeping track of your conversations.
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FreeDOS 1.1 comes with two IRC clients but only one is listed. IRC Junkies recently reviewed IRCjr so it appears to have references. Is there a reason why it is missing from the article ?
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I saw ad and promo packages, but no language that requires payment for editorial reviews. Since such information might be behind multiple pay- or login- walls, screenshots uploaded to, say,
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RSN already passed Softonic, and the the Softonic website clearly delineates editorial staffing - upon what policy basis or consensus are you disputing that? As for the MIRC review, having
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Cnet's download site is upload.com, and they have different packages for developers. Basic listing is free, but they charge for search placement, clicks, promotional and editorial reviews.
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I'm not quite sure what is going on, but it looks like the references are getting out of sync at the point where the latest release references start. We need help debugging this.
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Neebly is an original and flexible IRC client that's not really going to compete with the big boys but is great for developers or those that need to create their own chat channel.
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which should include the host operating system and possibly desktop environment, if any. The CPU architecture is probably not a terribly useful differentiator for IRC clients.
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The book and Dobbs article mention jIRCii nontrivially, and count as usable primary source. And the Dobbs is editorially reviewed, and so cannot be dismissed as purely primary.
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to hang inclusion on, and I'm an inclusionist. It does help, however, and when thrashirc is covered more widely in substantive reviews, this will be cited. Patience. --
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reason to continue screaming about any of this. It's just over. This article deserves to be unburdened of the bitter infighting practiced by an intransigent few. --
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known someone as an acquaintance does not automatically disqualify them as a reliable review source, and I don't know what policy basis you're claiming so; especially
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The existence of a laundry list does not necessitate that we repeat it. That is why reviews should be substantive and explain why a specific client merits inclusion.
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should also be noted that it's not for beginners - it's a million miles away from Microsoft Live Messenger and aimed more towards developers than general users.
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I've boldly added what I believe to be the general consensus about verifiability (not notability) of clients added which lack articles, just above the TOC. --
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Can you provide a link to support that claim, please? That would be very helpful info for us to have, when determining a site's reliability. From what I see
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something closer to eMule than an IRC client. As a result, it's a chat client which the tech savvy will appreciate, but beginners may be intimidated by.
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You are right, I didn't click in "read more". Ugh, my bad. This should qualify as two passable ones. Let's add the softpedia review to the article.
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They are a row on the lowest table but don't appear in any of the others. Was it removed? Shouldn't the same number of programs be in each table?
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of discussion by someone else, but before responses can take place, and using misleading edit summaries. Primary sources are not "not RS" - see
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a review in a specialized website.... by an acquitance of the author.... because he had previously worked in a program made by the author.
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Neebly IRC Client is a nice tool designed to help you connect with your favorite IRC channels and get in touch with your online friends.
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In all, the two independent sources provided are enough, and independent enough, and are certainly better than some other sources here.
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column in the protocols table. And I created this new section in the talk page so anyone can say something related to the edit. --
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Some other notable organisations that I can think of that run their own qwebirc installations (or forks of it) include the
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Cool. I've added it. Also edited the lead tersely to state the bare minimum inclusion criteria, similar to the model at
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No books, only independent review is a short mass-made review in a download website. This is not a notable IRC client. --
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There are so many Internet Relay Chat (IRC) clients for Windows that it's hard to see what yet another one could bring.
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acceptable here than several others. My beardstroking opinion is keep. There are also mentions in news sources like
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ThrashIRC was added by an IP, with CNET and Yahoo refs, both not reviews. I commented it out, pending better RS. --
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https://web.archive.org/web/20110725195312/http://www.irc-junkie.org/2010-09-13/ii-a-filesystem-based-irc-client/
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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Has one totally independent RS, a primary website, and established author expertise in two pubs. I think it's
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Independence of the MIRC review is not damaged by long-ago acquaintance, or long-ago work on a work by Mudge.
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2. Softonic.com has passed RSN, as discussed here previously, and considered both independent and reliable.
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while ignoring their usability here. They meet the requirements for use as primary and secondary sources.
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Do you have a source for that? That would help justify the removal. It's been in there quite a while. --
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It's unseemly for Knowledge (XXG) editors to be personally insulting and deprecatory against sources. --
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But rather a collection of all reverse SEND protcols. I think it should not be included in the table.
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Agreed - I usually explain this very thing in the edit summary when removing multiprotocol clients. --
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Two clients have been added which are not sourced sufficiently for inclusion in this list. A single
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Yes, the tables should be consistent. However, Pidgin is a multiprotocol client, so it belongs in
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Pidgin (at least on Windows) does not support the irc: URI scheme. Does it support it on Linux? --
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I have "thrashirc reviewed by" in my Google alerts and was surprised when it delivered this today
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Dr. Dobb's is about a different program from the same author, jIRCii is only mentioned in passing.
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Hello, it would be nice if someone would add information on the Conversation IRC Client for MAC:
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I think that Neebly has only one "passable source", which makes it fall short of the criteria. --
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On the scale from "unsourced/bubble/squeeky/okay/solid" scale, this entry, jIRCii, seems okay. --
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before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template
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I won't add it because of COI, but would appreciate if active editors would consider sources.
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I read this discussion a few times a week out of curiosity, which...I need to stop, because of
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Thanks for finding the Softpedia review, and for hopefully reconsidering the Softonic one. --
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This is an IM client (not just IRC; it uses libpurple apparently) and indeed is already in
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Notability of Mudge is not invalidated by self-publishing a book, when other works exist.
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Self-published sources show zero notability, since the author pays for the publication.
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voluntarily, rather than subjected to the obvious result of snowball delete !votes. --
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https://web.archive.org/web/20120425153531/http://www.mirc.net/news/index.php?id=175
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after long, painful discussion - see the discussion archives. Please note that if
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3. The book - meh. I included it for some detail, and supporting author notability.
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Interface is rather cluttered and spread out Not as polished as major IRC clients
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Hi sir, regarding adding ThrashIRC to the list, would this page of awards help?
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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Maybe we should put the original verbose criteria at the top of the article? --
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https://web.archive.org/web/20110812090202/http://bersirc.org/index.php/about/
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http://www.lockergnome.com/sscott721/2007/07/28/my-top-5-free-software-picks/
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reliable sources are not found, these clients will be deleted from the list:
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love this client, and could not find one review from an authoritative site.
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I'm using it right now, and it's not working. Yet the table says it does.
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Thanks for declaring. There are a couple of pages of ircresource.info at
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review is enough by itself, and the MIRC.net is financially independent.
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https://upload.cnet.com/2706-21_5-979-5.html?tag=rb_content;contentBody
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Continued use of the term "notability" is incorrect for list items.
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at -least- mention of the client in one reliable third party source
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Yes, links to WP pages usually go in notices in the talk pages. --
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The latest versions of Opera browser do not have an IRC client.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20110128122510/http://hydrairc.com/
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irc-junkies.org list of clients, main page missing ThrashIRC.
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Can LeafChat and hIRC both be included please? I use them.
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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ThrashIRC may qualify for this list with primary source
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Uses Ribbon menus Many different servers to choose from
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I notice that Enric is at least discussing. Thank you.
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I'm sorry that's all I have :( 2115:http://www.mirc.net/news/index.php?id=175 2047:Comparison of Internet Relay Chat clients 2045:I have just modified 7 external links on 200:No independent reviews, no notability. -- 185:. M&T Publications: 38. 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Please take a moment to review 1346:Here's some sources for qwebirc: 415:Lists have an inclusion criteria 121:"Robusto cliente IRC con scripts" 826:http://www.thrashirc.com/awards/ 359:only applies for whole articles. 194:Written by the author of jIRCii. 29: 2093:Corrected formatting/usage for 2087:Corrected formatting/usage for 2081:Corrected formatting/usage for 1896:Opera does not have IRC anymore 1753:HydraIRC does not support UTF-8 1438:Conversation IRC client missing 660:· Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5 423:inclusion criteria was set to " 1767:05:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC) 1077:19:12, 23 September 2011 (UTC) 1044:17:52, 23 September 2011 (UTC) 1019:00:02, 10 September 2011 (UTC) 641:Neebly IRC Client description 18:Talk:Comparison of IRC clients 1: 1658:, as well as its own article 1432:01:05, 15 February 2012 (UTC) 1416:22:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC) 1342:11:46, 13 February 2012 (UTC) 1300:12:28, 13 February 2012 (UTC) 1261:20:58, 27 December 2011 (UTC) 1238:05:03, 27 December 2011 (UTC) 1208:22:09, 24 December 2011 (UTC) 1187:17:53, 24 December 2011 (UTC) 1150:20:34, 27 December 2011 (UTC) 1117:05:03, 27 December 2011 (UTC) 1092:05:15, 27 December 2011 (UTC) 1000:20:21, 9 September 2011 (UTC) 782:14:30, 22 December 2011 (UTC) 752:13:23, 22 December 2011 (UTC) 736:List of common misconceptions 718:09:58, 22 December 2011 (UTC) 683:06:43, 22 December 2011 (UTC) 564:17:12, 21 December 2011 (UTC) 527:05:14, 21 December 2011 (UTC) 494:00:32, 11 November 2011 (UTC) 447:12:14, 10 November 2011 (UTC) 407:11:52, 10 November 2011 (UTC) 365:, both primary and secondary. 335:11:14, 10 November 2011 (UTC) 291:06:44, 10 November 2011 (UTC) 255:06:17, 10 November 2011 (UTC) 210:00:38, 10 November 2011 (UTC) 2031:01:40, 19 January 2017 (UTC) 1916:22:54, 26 January 2014 (UTC) 1553:This column currently lists 1281:00:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC) 2191:16:26, 11 August 2017 (UTC) 1861:Passive SEND is not a thing 1855:16:45, 8 January 2013 (UTC) 1843:reliable third party source 1831:07:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC) 1747:23:21, 26 August 2012 (UTC) 1732:20:31, 26 August 2012 (UTC) 1708:22:58, 25 August 2012 (UTC) 1690:18:34, 25 August 2012 (UTC) 1670:17:30, 25 August 2012 (UTC) 1637:18:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC) 1361:Initial release on QuakeNet 1305:Unsourced QwebIRC and Pchat 1221:irc-junkies.org IRC clients 1100:irc-junkies.org IRC clients 981:16:04, 10 August 2011 (UTC) 962:15:39, 10 August 2011 (UTC) 2206: 2154:(last update: 5 June 2024) 2042:Hello fellow Wikipedians, 1959:19:24, 16 March 2014 (UTC) 1598:14:37, 14 April 2012 (UTC) 1578:References are out of sync 1543:00:48, 24 March 2012 (UTC) 1522:00:44, 24 March 2012 (UTC) 1496:02:59, 20 March 2012 (UTC) 1477:03:20, 18 March 2012 (UTC) 1455:14:51, 13 March 2012 (UTC) 1363:(disclaimer: I wrote this) 934:21:23, 5 August 2011 (UTC) 903:19:16, 5 August 2011 (UTC) 874:12:00, 5 August 2011 (UTC) 860:WP:WikiProject IRC/Sources 854:WP:WikiProject IRC/Sources 840:11:17, 5 August 2011 (UTC) 810:09:25, 5 August 2011 (UTC) 361:List items require RS per 1986:16:38, 22 June 2014 (UTC) 1936:07:23, 4 March 2014 (UTC) 1618:00:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC) 1573:17:14, 6 April 2012 (UTC) 1549:Computing platform column 2077:http://www.hydrairc.com/ 2011:21:20, 31 May 2016 (UTC) 1970:http://www.thrashirc.com 1941:Off-the-Record Messaging 1837:Months ago we discussed 1810:17:11, 18 May 2012 (UTC) 1377:Staticbox launch qwebirc 2038:External links modified 1997:http://rcr.io/rirc.html 1890:12:20, 4 May 2013 (UTC) 1875:07:34, 4 May 2013 (UTC) 1790:20:05, 9 May 2012 (UTC) 379:not to like the sources 146:. 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Talk:Comparison of IRC clients
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"jIRCII - The Ultimate IRC Client"
"Robusto cliente IRC con scripts"
Sleep 2.1 Manual
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"Scripting Java Applications with Sleep"
Dr. Dobbs Journal
Enric Naval
talk
00:38, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Dr. Dobbs Journal
"jIRCii review"
Lexein
talk
06:17, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
WP:RS
Lexein
talk
06:44, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Enric Naval
talk
11:14, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

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