Talk:Complex system - Knowledge (XXG)

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of such a non-transparent model. A white-box model of complex dynamic system has 'transparent walls' and directly shows underlying mechanisms. All events at micro-, meso- and macro-levels of a dynamic system are directly visible at all stages of its white-box model evolution. In most cases mathematical modelers use the heavy black-box mathematical methods, which cannot produce mechanistic models of complex dynamic systems. Grey-box models are intermediate and combine black-box and white-box approaches. Creation of a white-box model of complex system is associated with the problem of the necessity of an a priori basic knowledge of the modeling subject. The deterministic logical ] are necessary but not sufficient condition of a white-box model. The second necessary prerequisite of a white-box model is the presence of the physical ] of the object under study. The white-box modeling represents an automatic hyper-logical inference from the ]s because it is completely based on the deterministic logic and axiomatic theory of the subject. The purpose of the white-box modeling is to derive from the basic axioms a more detailed, more concrete mechanistic knowledge about the dynamics of the object under study. The necessity to formulate an intrinsic ] of the subject before creating its white-box model distinguishes the cellular automata models of white-box type from cellular automata models based on arbitrary logical rules. If cellular automata rules have not been formulated from the first principles of the subject, then such a model may have a weak relevance to the real problem.<ref name="Kalmykov Lev V., Kalmykov Vyacheslav L. White-box model" /: -->

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article on "massive things". Would you argue that it should be split into three articles? 1) things that are massive. 2) the field that studies them (physics) and 3) a paradigm (e.g. newton's, or aristotle's)? That would seem odd. Why? Well, the theories of Newton and Einstein kind of *define* massive things. I'd argue that, at this point, we're getting there in terms of defining complex systems. It's not *only* about non-linear math - but in large part it is the link between that math and the phenomena. The math can describe the behavior of emergent phenomena! that is an amazing thing. And it can derive those dynamics from the micro-level structures below. It's very cool. But it's not just the math - the math is there to describe physical phenomena - specifically, self organization (== emergance). What I'm saying is I'm not sure how you could write a *good* article that talked about these system without bringing in the physical/mathematically based theories of what they are. It would be hand waving - and it's not even necessary. Moreover, I'm not sure that the "field" and the "paradigm" are separate. I think they are the same thing at this point.

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In black-box models, the individual-based (mechanistic) mechanisms of a complex dynamic system remain hidden. Black-box models are completely nonmechanistic. They are phenomenological and ignore a composition and internal structure of a complex system. We cannot investigate interactions of subsystems

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Mdd, here I disagree with you - lists suggest a unity of at least some property among the list entries. From just the list by itself, it is far from clear that these particular organizations share anything (other than a vague systems notion in their name). Sure by going to their respective websites

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I could be wrong, but I don't think the argument follows. I can envisage a linear system that is ill-conditioned, although I don't know if a non-linear system CAN be well posed. Does Hadamard's definition of a well posed problem apply to non-linear systems too? Or am I completely misguided here? Also

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When I originally wrote this, I framed the whole thing with an emphasis on non-linear dynamics. This seems to have been removed, but at a later state some kind of half educated twaddle about "chaos theory" ( which is a subset of non-linear dynamics) has been chucked in by someone who has only half an

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In this section we discussed different types of bridges. These different perspectives underline the notion that something has to be created (artifact, communication, interface, gatekeepers, relationship) that connects individuals or collective entities. Although these bridging concepts are presented

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Maybe the first sentence here should be more precise. Maybe the two articles should be merged after all. There are other voices telling, those two articles should be merged with complexity. And an other voice telling ther three articles should be removed and the citizendium article should take their

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It always helps to start with a bit of history (George Henry Lewes and Jules-Henri Poincaré) and example like emergent property saltines of salt (NaCl). Here we see that the first notions of complexity were based upon observations of natural phenomena. The math (theory) that followed is still having

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Both these terms have multiple meanings in the English language. But as far as technical, scientific meanings go, "complexity" and "complex system" are so close in meaning that they are effectively the same thing. All complex systems exhibit complexity. All things that exhibit complexity are complex

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I've been working rather intens in this field lately. And much of the work I do is creating the (article) space in such a way that others can further contribute. I wikify a lot and bring articles up to one standard lay out. But in between I'm trying to thinking a lot about the obvious. I ask myselve

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A one dimensional linear system could only have one fixed point, at the intersection of the line describing the rate of change, and the line describing the position. Two dimensional linear system can have orbits as well as fixed points, but still just one fixed point. So, in that sense they are not

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Broadly, non-linear does mean dependent on different initial conditions. in simple (one dimensional) non-linear systems, there are only fixed points in the dynamics, to which trajectories will converge. But there can be more than one fixed point, and which one you end up at is determined by initial

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being over-hyped. I think right now, the biggest problem with this article is that it's a collection of lists and random facts and sections, and does not have a coherent narrative. This is why I created the history section! But I'd like to see the other sections become more unified and read more

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I've repeatedly stated how I think this article should be done. I greatly improved it in 2005, and would be willing to work on it further. All that is required here is not 3 articles, or impressionistic wanderings, but a simple article after the manner of the article on scholarpedia, as I have said

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output) areas. And using "ordinary systems" methodology made descriptions of natural phenomena ("complex systems") extremely complex. Although a new, more appropriate methodology is far from being articulated, there is growing realisation that natural systems are far from being complex. So we could

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of the subject before creating its white-box model distinguishes the cellular automata models of white-box type from cellular automata models based on arbitrary logical rules. If cellular automata rules have not been formulated from the first principles of the subject, then such a model may have a

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I thought there really needed to be a history section on this page. I created one and put a few tidbits there but it's only the beginning. I would be very grateful if anyone could contribute enough material to weave together a coherent narrative. I would be glad to come back and add material on

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Since we are stuck with "complexity", as a concept, we are compelled to use it, but we need to be aware of the fact that "complexity" refers to "methods of description" rather than to nature of natural phenomena. You are right about "complexity" being a (potential) new paradigm in science. But for

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The concept is, however, clear and supported by numerous examples. (Market Equilibrium, planetary systems, molecules, bees, ants, us, culture etc. each describing interactions of agents (oscillators) and result of these interactions called emergent property.) I think that I have managed to explain

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Don't get me wrong here. I don't oppose either Adam M.Gadomski nor Socio-cognitive system. I follow simply a strickt rule here, that an overview article like this in Knowledge (XXG) should be based on the current articles in the field. I you have anything reliable to state, you are free to create

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The point is that complex systems are described by predictive models that use the maths of non-linear dynamics. Non-linear dynamics itself is not synonymous with complex systems, but it is crucial to their understanding. And not just in describing the components themselves and their interactions;

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In respect of all this, I think anyone who wants to chip in on this should read the scholarpedia article (which is *peer* *reviewed*!!!!) I referenced above and look at the bibliography there. Actually, if scholarpedia is GPLed we should probably just copy that article in here (when it is out of

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General form of complexity computation The computational law of reachable optimality is established as a general form of computation for ordered systems and it reveals complexity computation is a compound computation of optimal choice and optimality driven reaching pattern overtime underlying a

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A white-box model of complex dynamic system has ‘transparent walls’ and directly shows underlying mechanisms. All events at micro-, meso- and macro-levels of a dynamic system are directly visible at all stages of its white-box model evolution. In most cases mathematical modelers use the heavy

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The main reason for so many misunderstandings about complex systems and complexity theory are ambiguous and overcomplicated explanations. People seem to think that words “complexity” and “complex” justify complicated explanations in which even “explanators” (coined word) cannot find their way.

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These are good points, well met. But I think it should remain a single article and here's why: What is happening in the field right now is that complex systems has turned into an important branch of physics. The paradigm is best exemplified by Haken and Prigogine. Let's say you wanted to do an

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next year? Well, I cannot predict where all the individual air or water molecules will be (micro-level). I can't predict where individual weather systems will be (meso-level) but I *can* predict that it will be very hot (macro-level). This macro-level description is a bit trivial. The point in

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It's an interesting take on the subject but I doubt the taxonomy has universal acceptance. I haven't seen it in other literature but its pretty recent so not many citations yet. Given its recent I think you are right to delete it - good catch I missed that and its one of the pages I monitor

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I'm glad you "kind of agree". The extent to which they can be modeled is the extent to which they can be *understood*. The rest is hand waving. It's not science. A model is just a formal explanation. And complex systems *can* be predicted, at least to some extent. I'm not sure why you think a

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As for this whole entry: It is much better and more competent than previous one. (Scrapped, I guess.) However, when I consider that previous one listed attributes and this one is listing seemingly different meanings of word complexity - I’m not so sure. There is one, and only one, meaning of

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I just can't see what an article on complex systems that ommitted all theory would have to offer - it might even stoke the fires of confusion in that it would just be a list of "complicated things", which is not the same as a complex system. Morevoer, the scholarpedia article is an excellent

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citations) says: "A complex system is a damped, driven system (for example, a harmonic oscillator) whose total energy exceeds the threshold for it to perform according to classical mechanics but does not reach the threshold for the system to exhibit properties according to chaos

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First, there may be interactions that are mediated by other components which lie in the intersetcion of the cosmological horizons of the two endpoints one is considering. Second, would it better epress the meaning if we wrote "the behaviour of the entire observable universe"?

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Actually, now that I think about it, two dimensional linear systems have orbits, and the amplitude of the orbit depends on the initial conditions. So that is an example of a linear system that depends on inital conditions. but *qualitatively* the dynamics don;t depend in IC.

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The biggest problem (in my opinion) with the current article is, that I speaks of all these three meanings. I think it would be much better, if those three meanings would be explained in three different articles... Or at least in different sections, with a clear overview. -

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This view is quite close to what is known in physics and chemistry. Note that this also explains observed phenomena in a bit different way. It also contributes to a better understanding of why formations of some molecules release energy while other need energy from the

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I kind of agree with you about non-linear dynamics, but I would only suggest that when it comes to complex systems, there's a good case that can be made that these systems cannot be modelled very well, let alone predicted... (perhaps that's not what you implied)

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conditions. In two dimensions, it gets more complicated, and in 3+ dimensions, you (can) get chaos. In chaotic dynamics, it is impossible to predict where the system will go (as far as is known), even though it is deterministic (i.e. is not random in any way).

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you possibly could find out that they share one or more properties. But then, let the WP article demonstrate the particular sharing. Lists without a substantial explanation of a shared property are near-worthless. Knowledge (XXG) is not a portal.

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So, I'd like to help with one but I am at loss to understand it's direction. Ideally I think that we should start at the math end and then mention its applications? Like you say, start with Cilliers or Ladyman, Lambert, Wiesner and work up?

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Now I'm trying to compare these with scholarpedia article!? That article on first hand is far more impressive then the three (what you already called) listings. I have faith however that the three related article can and will also grow.

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The definition of a complex system was appallingly wrong. I now fixed it to give the current accepted general definition with a reference to a peer-reviewed article. Clearly, a great deal of additional work is necessary on this article.

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I'd strongly support this. The complex systems page is much more detailed, and most of the interesting content is mirrored over there. This page reads very much like a definition of the term itself, which isn't the point of WP.

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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=63cvjUbnN2sC&lpg=PA262&ots=jcdbp6qMu4&dq=Complex%20systems%20are%20usually%20open%20systems&pg=PA262#v=onepage&q=Complex%20systems%20are%20usually%20open%20systems&f=false

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prediction is one step up from a model (".. let alone predicted"). Some models cannot be predicted in practice, although they are in principle predictable, because they are deterministic (e.g. "chaos" in dynamical systems of : -->

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Now the scholarpedia article you mentioned introduces complex systems as a "paradigm" (a set of common beliefs & fundaments shared in the group of scientists), further jumps from complexity research to aspects of complex

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Now I have experiences more then a dozend times, that splitting the object of study from the study in seperate articles clearifies and creates space. I believe you also want to do something about it. Why not give it a try? -

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Kroll, Andreas (2000). Grey-box models: Concepts and application. In: New Frontiers in Computational Intelligence and its Applications, vol.57 of Frontiers in artificial intelligence and applications, pp. 42-51. IOS Press,

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As any other entry in any other encyclopaedia, the explanation needs to be simple, easy to follow and with examples to support the explanation. It needs to satisfy readers of all possible profiles: experts and non-experts.

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seems to focus more on complex systems applications. I see in the talk comments below, that they were once one page. However, I don't understand the logic for this. To me, the split seems to make things more confusing.

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Grey-box models are intermediate and combine black-box and white-box approaches. As a rule, this approach is used in ‘overloaded’ form, what makes it less transparent. It was demonstrated that the logical deterministic

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complex systems is that we are trying to make meso-level predictions, but not micro. and those predictions might involve, e.g. phase transitions which are modelled (amazingly well) by bifurcations in non-linear systems.

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The purpose of the white-box modeling is to derive from the basic axioms a more detailed, more concrete mechanistic knowledge about the dynamics of the object under study. The necessity to formulate an intrinsic

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Disambiguation it's listed under mathematics: "Complex system, a system of interconnected simple parts that together exhibit a high degree of computational complexity from which emerges a higher order behaviour"

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It is interesting to note that unstable system is in a higher energy level than stable system and we need to introduce energy into stable system if we do not like the outcome of the previous symmetry splitting.

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You are speaking of "many misunderstandings about complex systems and complexity theory" and those "being ambiguous and overcomplicated explanations". I just created a new structure here with a simplification,

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introduction. At the moment I'm busy researching the brain as a complex system, for my PhD in "complex systems", and if I took time to write something as I did in 2005, I reckon it would just end up deleted.

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The impact of level 2 interplays on level 1 interplays results in some electrons jumping from the lowest orbit to a higher energy level to satisfy one of few possible stable states of the molecule as a

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https://web.archive.org/web/20120426052819/http://predictivemodeler.com/sitecontent/book/Ch06_Applications/Actuarial/HEC_Model/Healthcare%20Exchange%20Complexity%20Model%20-%20Report%20-%20Aug2011.pdf

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I couldn't find any reference to a system being sensitive to initial conditions from the page on nonlinearty that is referenced. Maybe someone with more experience in the field could follow this up?

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Once the system is stabilised (symmetry splitting), it, as agent (oscillator), enters into interplays with other, stable systems on the same or different “level”. And the same story repeats itself.

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equations can be derived that explain changes in "emergent" properties without reference to the microstates that cause them. That is what makes the study of complex systems a definable discipline.

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article which could also fit in here. And you also start looking in the historical sections of other related Knowledge (XXG) articles. Now I will leave that you to decide. Good luck. -

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The point being that the structure is the atomic level, or layer, into which all the data fits. In our environment, I believe we are so familiar with it that we take it for granted:

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Is Stuart Kauffman a notable figure in this field? I'm not certain, but a concern by another was raised about Kauffman's inclusion in the list. I'll leave it up to others to decide.

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The trouble is that "complex systems", "the complexity theory" and "complexity" got their names from people originally working (and thinking) within "ordinary systems" (input -: -->

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Socio-cognitive systems is removed because it hasn't got an article of its own. If you want to add this text this should be done Socio-cognitive article. Or just start an article.

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Relationships are non-linear In practical terms, this means a small perturbation may cause a large effect (see butterfly effect), a proportional effect, or even no effect at all.

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Creation of a white-box model of complex system is associated with the problem of the necessity of an a priori basic knowledge of the modeling subject. The deterministic logical

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It remains clear to me that something has to been done with the current situation... If you have no really big objections I like to give it a try to split this article in two. -

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About Gadomski - his socio-cognitive engineering domain with its complexity is an important but narrow and difficult advanced specialization (with the big future, I suppose).

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Adam M.Gadomski shouldn't be mentioned here, because he is not considered a notable scientist in Knowledge (XXG) (yet??). There are a dozens complex systems scientists who are.

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I'm wondering what you think of this new situation? I'll really like some feed back on this subject, because I'm having some discussion about this at Wikitionary as well. -

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page on Complex Systems Modeling, because it wasn't specific there. It does seem like it might be useful if it was integrated into this page. I've pasted the text in below.

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Now in these five findings I see a common underlaying problem, that the buzzword "complex system" is not unraveled. The term "complex systems" has at least three meanings:

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Yes, you're right, but the aim seems unclear to me - is this a math entry with applications to other fields (which seems to be the case from reading the text) or is it a

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A limited number of agents (closer to each other than to other agents - horizontal relationships) impact each other with each of them modifying its impact on others (its

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interfere. In essence, the complexity of a natural (complex) system is eliminated to "keep the system under control i.e. in the framework of theoretical (input -: -->

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Thanks for this feed back. I agree with your last remark. But I do believe that the current article has to be split in two... for the same reason there is a separate

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The entire universe cannot be an example of a complex system because there can be no interaction of components if one is outside the other's cosmological horizon.

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Intraction between an electron and nucleus is stabilised when the electron "drops" to the lowest orbit or energy state. (Let's say: symmetry splitting - level 1.)

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This whole section appears to be lifted from a PhD thesis: Low Frequency Electromagnetic Field Induction of Heat Shock Gene Expression By Paul H. Frisch (2008)

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http://predictivemodeler.com/sitecontent/book/Ch06_Applications/Actuarial/HEC_Model/Healthcare%20Exchange%20Complexity%20Model%20-%20Report%20-%20Aug2011.pdf

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I removed this link because: 1. it didn't exist any longer. 2. there seems to be nothing about it 3. it has seemingly nothing to do with complex systems.--

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some issues to match itself with observations, mainly because of linear thinking. (See complexity theory bible: Thinking in Complexity by Klaus Mainzer.)

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I propose a merge with the Complex systems page. It does not make much sense to have these two separate pages pretending they are in any way different.

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are necessary but not sufficient condition of a white-box model. The second necessary prerequisite of a white-box model is the presence of the physical

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I have been checking if unintentionally various parts of Knowledge (XXG) articles have been copy-paste here without proper attribution. Now it seems:

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place. These discussions are small in compare to the argumentations you seemed to be in. But if you have other idea's here, please let me know. --

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There used to be relevant info about the origins and early developments of complex systems theory, which was, it seems, deleted during this edit

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complexity in all listed (and some non-listed) disciplines and this meaning needs to be articulated before we get into different aspects of it.

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The whole article is a mess! It might be better to tale the list from Cilliers which is often quoted? But overall it needs a rewrite ----

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people have been writing about this. I think everybody, even the experts have only half an idea what this is about. So I refrased the title.

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I just did a full sweep of this article to add the necessary commas, remove tautologies, fixed tenses, and plural form of certain words.

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I still think that most of the things said in the scholarpedia article could fit here (in the wikipedia) in the complexity article. -

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A molecule formation through interactions between atoms (level 2) seeks a lowest energy level for the whole of the molecule.

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All (natural) systems (or observations of them) are "complex", i.e. there are no "complex systems" as a subset of "systems".

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https://web.archive.org/web/20110220054920/http://www.oeaw.ac.at/byzanz/repository/Preiser_WorkingPapers_Calculating_I.pdf

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Of course, vice versa could be possible - looking back through the history, this text seems to have appeared around 2005.

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related articles on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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Now I also have explained why I made the changes I made. There are now three article to explain three related subjects:

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article. You have said it yourselve: This article has become a mess. To avoid this a more solid ground has to be shapen.

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made a REDIRECT from 'Nonlinear dynamics' to 'Chaos theory'. It's a bit late to complain about that three years later?

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turns out scholarpedia is copyright, so that a print version can be published. But a good place to start nonetheless.

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page? Both pages clearly cover the same topic, although this page focuses more in complex systems properties and the

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Now I myselve have mentioned in this last talk item here, that a better organization is needed between the articles

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I keep an eye on the complex system(s) articles. Besides, nice work there Mdd, and hats off for all the effort. --

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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I would suggest that such approach will yield much better results in understanding and structuring. Good luck.

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in the current version of this article, yet nowhere in the text of the current version of this article is a

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is now a redirect. It's seems like a small step to collect you original ideas and make it to an own article

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of the object under study. The white-box modeling represents an automatic hyper-logical inference from the

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descriptions of natural phenomena. Just like Kepler's (description of) universe replaced the Ptolemaic one.

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black-box mathematical methods, which cannot produce mechanistic models of complex dynamic systems.

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There is already a not-bad-looking article on non-linear dynamics (though I just skimmed over it)

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OK, I accept your motivations, but, anyway, socio-cognitive systems are really complex systems!

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because it is completely based on the deterministic logic and axiomatic theory of the subject.

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I'm a wikipedia noob, so I apologize if this isn't the correct way to frame this question.

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The whole group (system) is initially unstable (while individual agents are modifying their

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What is the first thing people need to know to get a little understanding about the subject?

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I do know however that the name Adam M.Gadomski is spammed in other articles before, like

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In what sequence, does those people should be further introduced into this subject matter?

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Remarks like this in an overview article in the introduction are generally not accepted.

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As another example, the Wiki Disambiguation says one thing, yet the intro text another:

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I'll just implement it. Then people can really see what happens and respond anyway. -

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If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with

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If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with

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of diffs added the a bunch of content based on his own article. This appears to give

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Requested articles/Applied arts and sciences/Computer science, computing, and Internet

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All very frustrating. I'd advise people to use scholarpedia instead. I know I will.

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http://www.irit.fr/COSI/training/complexity-tutorial/history-of-complex-systems.htm

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I have removed the link to Adam M.Gadomski and to Socio-cognitive systems because:

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The following is my attempt to bridge a physics/chemistry gap in complexity terms:

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A description of a system could be complex or simple depending on methodology used.

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Thoughts on that section by other independent editors? 13:39, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

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these new articles articles first. I am simply asking to do tou home work here.

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http://www.oeaw.ac.at/byzanz/repository/Preiser_WorkingPapers_Calculating_I.pdf

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It could be said that components of "ordinary", man made systems (input -: -->

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if this is not okay please change them back but do not revert the whole edit.

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A paragdigm, that complex systems have to be studied with non-linear dynamics

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I have made a first draft for a separate article about complex system, see

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Some of the changes included spelling changes to behaviour (to behavior)

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like an actual article too...not just a collection of random statements.

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has noticed on his talkpage. I will contact him about this incident. --

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idea what they are going on about. The section even contradicts itself.

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He is one of the most notable! Wrote some of the defining books -----

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output) are constructed so that a "noise" from neighbouring components

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on 29 July 2017‎. But, if these two articles need to be merged, then

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dependent on initial conditions. Strogatz's book is good for all this

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That should be a basic element of any article. The next question is:

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this potential to be realised we need a new methodology that will

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article, and I have come to the point that I have three designs:

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I made some inquiries here and there... and first some findings:

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approach allows to create the white-box models of ecosystems.

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for additional information. I made the following changes:

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for additional information. I made the following changes:

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website, Monash University Centre for Intelligent Systems

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as it took longer than expected to recruit experts.

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The situation here is actually the other way around

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