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European cities that spread from their inner cores into the surrounding areas during the 19th and
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I checked both the original Arabic-script and the transliterated Latin-script version in the two PDF files cited in the article. I can confirm that the transliteration (at least of the sentence in question) is faithful to the original. The sentence transliterated as "Madde 2 – Devleti
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Turkish version is a transliteration and not a working into modern Turkish vocabulary and grammar. Anyway I do wonder if the Ottoman Turkish original used "Konstantiniyye" or "Istanbul" for the city now known in English as Istanbul. I know the French and Greek versions
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It would be interesting to see if this issue was written about more in works about the late
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Istanbul to mean the whole city, even if it wasn't codified into law/official
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Thanks for finding that! I wonder if that meant the capital had to be in the old Ottoman city walls (as at the time "Istanbul" often meant only the old city). I just requested on
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Or rather half of Istanbul is in Europe, but either way it was a good edit to remove the claim: Istanbul (as Constantinople in French and English) was the capital of the Empire.
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