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areas of mathematics, often without the injectivity assumption, so the sensible terminology choice is to add the adjective "simple" every time we require it, and this is what texts on complex analysis do -at least all those i have read. Note also that the injectivity assumption is not necessary to define the line integral, thus attentive readers will also be confused by that superfluous assumption.
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I noticed that the page calls "smooth curve" what is usually called "_simple_ (smooth) curve" or path, or Jordan curve, that is the image of an injective (smooth) map from an interval or a circle -or a parametrization thereof. This is unusual and will surely confuse some readers. Curves appear in all
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I agree. I think the article could be expanded further, resulting in a more complete description of contour integration accessible to the uninitiated. For example, a very simple proof of Cauchy integral/residue theorem could be included, obviating link to a more complete, yet abstruse article. The
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Actually, CMB vouching or not should be completely irrelevant. This article contains a large number of derivations which themselves cannot be directly sourced. Of course, it would be plaigiarism if they could be directly sourced. I think this article is fine. But according to Headbomb's logic used in
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A prod was stuck on saying 'Knowledge is not meant to be a mathematical toolbox. That is true all right but I think all that is wrong with this article currently is the tone, That methods of contour integration is a notable subject in itself and most of the article could be kept. I think most of the
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This is a really strange way of introducing the notion. You don't need to insist on injectivity or equality of the derivative at the endpoints. The whole section could use some streamlining. Textbooks I've seen usually just rely on something like piecewise smoothness of the curve. And I have no
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There did not seem to be a page that appropriately introduces the contour integral on Knowledge, so I started such sections here. I believe that they are of admissible quality, but will require a bit of work to become what I would consider complete. In the future I could see these sections, as well
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3. In fact, its not even clear what small circular arc we're looking at since the picture of the contour does not match up with the computation a few lines later. Judging from the computation, the contour should contain two segments parallel to the negative x-axis, but instead the picture shows two
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which vanishes for all integer j except j = -1. This could then be a good point to introduce the idea of “n-th order poles” and to the central feature of contour integration, namely the ease in deforming closed contours with minor, if any, change in the integral result. The article would then be
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A directed smooth curve can be defined as a smooth curve together with direction defined by designation of the image of a or b in a specific parametrization as initial point. Then the parametrization defines ordering of points along the curve. For example, if the image of b is the initial point,
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B.t.w., I do think one needs to explain the residue at infinity either by giving a source for that specific statement or an argument that explains why it is defined in that way (no source would be ok with me in the latter case). I do myself understand this, but I know that many people who know the
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4. The word "or" is used indiscriminately in going from one line of computation to the next. In the first instance, it suggests equality, while in the second instance it seems to be saying "When we take the small-epsilon limit, we get..." Also, no justification is given for the limit taken in this
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I saw that there was no page for "Estimation lemma" which is linked to, so I created the page. It's the first one I've ever made so would appreciate help with it if you see room for improvement. For the example I used the same integral used in the example on this page, which I thought fit well.
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Nothing wrong with adding the occasional 'toolbox' article - the book-form Britannica includes such articles too - it helps more people than are grievously offended by its existence, so this person can lighten up. Same goes for the article on vector calculus in various coordinate systems. I'm
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I have restored it, minus the Maple sentence (which is ridiculous). While I agree with most of your points, I do not agree that this makes it unhelpful; indeed, I found the section quite helpful, and think that cleanup is more appropriate than deletion. Leaving it here with a discussion here
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The integral over the curve is the limit of finite sums of function values, taken at the points on the partition, in the limit that the maximum distance between any two successive points on the partition (in the two-dimensional complex plane), also known as the mesh, goes to
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When it gives cos=(1/2)(z+1/z), it first states cos as (1/2)e^{i theta) +e^(-i theta). The 1/2 should multiply both exponents. Minor error, but worth fixing whenever anyone reads this that knows how to edit the math. And when you fix it, please delete my comment =)
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1. There is a completely irrelevant remark at the beginning about the computer program MAPLE. This has nothing to do with with the choice of branch cut in this example. The reason for choosing this particular branch cut is that the avoids the integration contour.
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I assume it was meant to be independent of PARAMETRIZATION, since the example just a little bit down shows the reader that the integral of 1/z over the complex unit circle is 2πi, contradicting the statement that there is an independence of PATH.
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2. It is claimed that the integral over the circular arcs tends to zero, but the only estimate actually shown in the article is the large R limit, and it's much less obvious that the integral over the small arc tends to zero as well.
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In summary, I find this example to be an embarrassing example of poor mathematical writing. I haven't read the rest of the article, but if it contains the same basic errors, then I think it may need attention from an expert.
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In conclusion i think the editors of this page should remove the assumption of injectivity, just call "smooth curve" what everyone calls that, and if possible improve the phrasing of the paragraph defining "smooth curve".
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At the bottom of Contour integrals, it states: That is, the result is independent of the curve chosen. In the case where the real integral on the right side does not exist the integral along γ is said not to exist.
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to be mathematically precise (and thus longer). Further results such as independence of path should be included, as well as a short discussion of other results which should link to appropriate pages (such as
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more self-contained without the current heavy reliance on links to other articles, such as the "residue theorem". A good follow-up example could then be evaluation of the Dirichlet integral,
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I'm going to go ahead and delete Example V which has a number of serious problems. Later on, if I have the time, I'll replace it with another example demonstrating the use of keyhole contours.
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This is an overly restrictive definition of what contour integration is, because it can be applied to complex-valued functions as well. I would suggest rewording this to
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Here is my site with contour integration example problems. Someone please put this link in the external links section if you think it's helpful and relevant.
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I think this would be useful, now some of the steps are a bit confusing. I've seen this convention in a couple books and also in some wikipedia articles.
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the infraparticle page discussion, this article should be very problematic. People who are not fluent in maths cannot verify this article from the sources.
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redirects here; yet the text appears to assume that the reader already knows what a contour integral is: the term is used without further explanation.  --
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Some of the text in this page doesn't wrap properly around the figures in my browser (Firefox 1.0.4). Anyone else see this problem/know how to fix it?
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then x is further along the curve than y if x < y. With the initial point fixed, the ordering is independent of the parametrization chosen.
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Who creates the graphics? The "estimation lemma" could use an upper half-circle contour of radius 'a' and Γ near it to name the contour. --
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directing somebody to clean it up, change the image, etc., will be more helpful than removing it, since the core content is quite good. --
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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In my university's adv. calculus course number 4 was called "Pacman rule". Is it popular imformal name or just local name?
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problems could be removed by changing the tone so the descriptive bits don't say things like 'we will evaluate'.
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The paragraph “The parametrization of a curve ….” is a little confusing. I think that more succinct would be:
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5. I cant solve integral of (1+z)/z, where C is the right half of the circle |z| = 1 from z = -i to z = i.
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Yes. Please don't delete things based on what they OMIT. That makes no sense whatsoever. Add to them.
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3. In the sixth line of displayed mathematics, the letter z is being used for three different things.
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I hope someone familiar with integration of complex functions can correct this erroneous statement.
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Unless there are specific concerns, I don't see any glaring difficulties with the sources. — Carl
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result could be a good introduction to the beauty of the basics and application of this field.
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idea why there's even a digression into the bit about ordering the points along the curve. –
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Agreed! The result does not depend on restriction to the unit circle. See comment below.
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Why the unusual name for a simple curve ? And why the restriction to simple curves ?
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The circle-integral-sign comes out of the blue. It needs to be explicitly defined.
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The sources seem to be on-topic, professionally published sources. As described at
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as some of the general discussion of the intro, becoming their own page (such as
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
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Hehe. Sounds like it's an informal (and local - I've never heard of it) name.
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one of the simplest, yet most important application of contour integration.
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http://www.exampleproblems.com/index.php/Complex_Variables#Complex_Integrals
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Also, the wording in the paragraph defining "smooth curve" is awkward.
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line, which requires interchanging a limit with an improper integral.
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Methods of contour integration#Generalization of the Riemann Integral
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Please note that the article's verifiability is perfectly adequate.
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I thought I'd mention that this appears to have been fixed by now.
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There’s no reason to restrict the the contour integral of
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Added page linked to for "Estimation lemma", please check
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The problems I see with this example are the following.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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Use log for complex logarithm and ln for the real one
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