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of the article from top to bottom, with which this second opinion would need to agree. Even if one looks at the lede by itself, which should be a straightforward summary of the article, then one finds sentences such as: "In 1994, Guns N' Roses' progress on a follow-up to "The
Spaghetti Incident?" was halted due to creative differences between members band." This seems wordy for the lede and appears to be the equivalent of "Guns N' Roses progress on "Chinese Democracy" was halted due to creative differences between band members." Calvin999 has already listed many such prose issues. A very modest suggestion would be to call for a simple re-draft of the full article in straightforward prose to enhance readability of the narrative. There is a very substantial citations section for the article which should make this easier to accomplish for the nominating editor. Cheers.
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pegged nu-metal as a kind of 'it's an aggressive hard rock but with experimenting around with different genres' thing, and with the grunge influences & heavy amount of synths mixed with the hard rock & electronic bits, I guess the album could be described as having bits of numetal in it. If it's sourced I don't see the point in removing it, even if I don't completely agree with it. It's pretty subjective, like how
Sebastian Bach described Sorry as "doom metal". Also, I'm trying to find a good reference to sum up the songs that don't really fit in the 'hard rock/industrial/electronic/numetal" vibe like the piano ballads such as Street of Dreams and This I Love.
1600:'s search.) For example, The song Chinese Democracy's credited to Rose and Freese in the album booklet, but it's registered writers on ASCAP are Rose, Freese, Eric Caudieux, Caram Castanzo, Robin Finck, Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson, Paul Tobias as well as a separate listing for Marco Bellatrami. Album booklets are notoriously inaccurate, and ASCAP lists the people actually registered as song writers via their respective publishing & royalty companies. Should I keep the section as is, essentially providing false or incomplete information, add another part explaining the registered composers or replace what's there with the info from Ascap?
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4637:"I think the record had turned into a real labor. He was stuck and didnât know how to proceed, so he was avoiding it." - the Daily Mail is banned on Knowledge (XXG) where prose relating to living people are concerned. This source is used for several paragraphs in this section and needs to be replaced. Mick Wall is also known for being a controversial journalist whose opinion is not particularly reliable enough for a GA (and would be tossed out at a Featured Article review).
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the band took with the album's lead single. Not sure what you mean by "can you search for the albums lyrics". Sometime in the next few days here I'm gonna make one final big push in expanding the article, I plan on mostly expanding the music & recording sections to mention things like the 15 studios, other albums recorded concurrently to CD (CD 2, the remix album), and some other stuff.
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Chinese Democracy have been certified with LOTS of sales in different countries. But most of them are not true. It says that Chinese Democracy have a x3 Platinium certification in Canada, but thats nuts, because CD is not even Gold there. A 1 minute search in Google and at the canadian album certificartion page for GNR (
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the music industry, I think this is a case where it can be used. Can you point me to problems with the article if there are any that prevent it from being used? Either way, I replaced several sources of it with other ones. The first Youth quote, the Geffen sales estimate and the tidbit about listening parties are all that remain from the article now.
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Ringerfan23 for your efforts to finally bring out the opposing side of Zutaut's accusations that, for years, have troubled those concerned about Buckethead. I understand that a major publication would make a superior reference, but such information is extremely rare, especially
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Today I deleted the following sentences from the end of the second paragraph of the "Tom Zutaut joins" section. "However, the coop caused friction when
Buckethead began using it to watch hardcore pornography, disturbing Rose. After one of Rose's dogs defecated in the coop, Buckethead insisted it not
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Just a quick update, I've looked through the whole article. I need to merge your comments with the original (and reply to several of them), which I'll do tomorrow when I'm feeling more awake :-/ .... then we'll have an idea of what work is left. I'm more confident now that the article can be improved
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Its been around for 22 years and has accurate re-publications of interviews, timelines of things, ect. A lot of the info is not readily available (ie, print sources, websites that no longer exist). I'm not the most up-to date on what's considered a reliable source, but most of the info taken from the
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Request for second opinion. This is a difficult one. The bibliography and reference sections are substantial and show a good amount of research put into the citations. This is normally ample enough as a basis for Ga nomination. However Calvin999 is raising multiple points concerning the Prose quality
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I think this needs to go through a peer review really. It's not the job of a GAN reviewer to suggest whole sentences and paragraphs for re-writing and in turn providing re-writes, and that is what I feel like needs doing. It all feels a bit jumbled and messy. That's the problem with this much detail.
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I've been involved in this part. Critics can have different opinions, not all of them will always agree on one; surely you've heard this? Strangely enough, nobody has called it simply "heavy metal" that I can find. Side note: Everyone has come to consensus that GnR are both rock and metal on the main
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I thought I noticed some electronics scattered around here and there, but you're right, it's certainly not the most prevalent thing happening here. "Better" and "Shackler's
Revenge" seem like they're good examples of what the reviewer was trying to assert (to me). If there's that little of it here, I
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I've trimmed it down to three paragraphs. I think everyone from GNR who was on the album should be mentioned in the lead , and as it is now I think it does a good job summarizing the article without leaving out any of the important facts. I'm open to suggestions for further trimming if you have any.
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Introduction: Since the mid-2000's former Guns N Roses A&R representative Tom Zutaut has said a number of derogatory things about guitarist
Buckethead. Calling him âemotionlessâ, blaming him for tour cancellations and the delay of the Chinese Democracy album. No other member of Guns N' Roses has
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about the dissolution of the album. If you have any ideas for how to re-combine them, let me know because I messed around with it last night in draft mode and couldn't figure out a good way, the section ended up too choppy and back and forth since the sections have two separate themes (recording and
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I think it should be included because the album's so diverse that 'hard rock' doesn't really define it well enough. Personally, Scraped is the song that really comes to mind in regards to numetal with the opening vocals and
Buckethead-yness of the guitars. Shackler's is another one, too. I've always
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It's really hard to find reliable sources on the info of the individual songs. Several prominent reviews don't or barely mention songs on the album. So for example, there might be lots written that can be cited about the style and composition of "Chinese
Democracy" or "Better", but there's not that
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Is there some discussion anywhere about Wall in regards to reliability? All I know is he's been doing this since the 70's and has written a biography of Guns N' Roses and Axl Rose before. I know daily mail is generally considered unreliable but considering Wall's history with the group and Rose and
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The "Recording" section begins: "Longtime Guns N' Roses producer Mike Clink was reported to have worked on
Chinese Democracy during its conception". When was "its conception"? Is that before or after 1997, when Youth said Rose was not ready? It's really difficult to get a clear sense of time in the
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I wonder if the recording and delays section can be all combined and subsections can be for era's like a band article would be (like Early recordings (97-00) Delays and Member changes (00-06), final recordings and release (06-08) ). It might be untraditional but I think it'd benefit the complicated
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I expanded the lead to include more info on the recording and delays. The nu-metal genre was added back in by an editor who initially added it in the first place, I don't really want to start an edit war over it. Industrial rock genre is supported more by multiple songs on the album being described
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This was a minor issue that came up during the GA Process (or sometime in the past, it's been a while); because a lot of the info from people like Beaven or Brain (which is a large chunk of information not covered by other sources) came from direct interviews they did recently, mostly with obscure
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Anyway, I'm happy to review this. I see a lot of work has gone into it recently, and I suspect there's a campaign to get this to FA at some point, which is no bad thing. I'll have a proper re-read of the article now and check the sources, and come back with detailed comments hopefully later today.
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and I went straight on looking at what could be fixed. And this section was the first thing that really popped out at me. It makes me feel like it's of a lesser quality, which is not what GAs are about. In addition, we need to expand on the genre classification for that section. For example, just
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I tweaked the article a bit more now. Still working on the refs. Unfortunately, several dead links aren't archived anywhere. Not sure what the protocol is for that, whether it's to leave as is, tag with a deadlink tag, or remove. Removed the alternate art as I couldn't find a ref talking about the
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I've cleaned up most of the mechanical stuff mentioned. I'm not sure what else to to with the critical reception section, first it was bloated now it needs expanding, I honestly have no clue how to summarize most reviews without using direct quotes. The audio sample demonstrates the shift in style
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The only dead links left in the article are now tagged with the Dead Link tags, and I'm working on finding replacements for them. I removed the quote from one of the refs, it's in the other one because it's a print source, since there isn't a website to click on to check info from the citation. I
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The article history of Chinesse Democracy was created several years ago in attempt to control the constant flow of rumors and leaks while this album was in it's decades long recording process. I'm not sure how wise a move this was to begin with and now the two articles are basically redundant of
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I don't think the current structure of having Recording and Delays as separate sections works. It means you have to explain certain things twice (like Roy Thomas Baker being hired) and tell the story from beginning to end twice in different ways. Instead I think we should have a single Recording
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and it's not mentioned anywhere. I don't think this source will fly at FAC, but for a GA, provided the reference clearly states it is an interview, and specifies exactly where the original source is, we would be able to trust it. I do know several fansites produce facsimiles of old magazine and
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Crikey, has it been ten years already since this was released? It was a standing joke at one point that it would never happen - where does the time go? I do confess I am not a particularly big fan of Guns 'n' Roses, and my main interest in them recently has been watching video clips of Axl Rose
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No certifications table? IMPORTANT: I tried to make one, but it was erased because some problem with the references (sorry, im no expert). The important thing here is that the certifications and sales information in this page is absolute BS. For example, the commercial performance section cited
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Keep in mind that tool isn't entirely accurate, it doesn't seem to account for dead URL's present in the article that are archived. But I'm looking into alt. sources right now to get that part fixed up. I'm also considering merging the recording and delays section into one single "recording and
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So far, I've expanded the lead & fixed the citations, expanded information on second week and year end sales, removed promos & singles & fixed the refs on the charts section, added an extra source to the Industrial Rock genre and removed Nu-metal, trimmed down the critical reception
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but with the note "Still usable as a WP:PRIMARY source for interviews, or when covered by other reliable sources (though it is preferred if you use the other reference that covers said content)." There's another use if it later on for the info about the song Silkworms, they seem to be the only
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I'm taking a break to go and look at some other things; I'll pick up the rest of the review tomorrow. I have to say I'm not feeling inclined to pass it at this stage as there are serious problems with the referencing. You've done a good job with copyediting the prose; I can't find too much to
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Let's please reconsider leaving in Zutaut's disputed accusations against Buckethead. If we choose to leave them in, then the refutation could also be added for balance. In particular, Zutaut's claim that Buckethead used his "coop" area of the recording studio to watch hardcore pornography is
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Bryan "Brain" Mantia was the drummer for Guns N' Roses on the Chinese Democracy tour and is known as Buckethead's best friend and frequent collaborator. Please watch and listen to the first two minutes of this video. "Are THOSE Buckethead GNR Stories True? Brain sets the record straight!"
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doesn't sound anything like nu metal, or bands like Linkin Park or Limp Bizkit. It doesn't feature rap verses, sampling, or electronic-based instrumentation. Sure, it has some industrial influences (though I think industrial metal could be removed as well), but I think listing nu metal is
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Additionally, in the "Style and composition" section, there are quite a few quotes where third parties describe the album as it sounded while it was in development. These should be moved to the recording section. The "Style and composition" section should only describe the final album.
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I'm closing the review. I believe that a fresh evaluation is needed because the article was significantly expanded since this review started. It went from 70k bytes of information to over a 100k as of this day. While it is broad in its coverage and neutral, it fails the stability
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Something sounds wrong with that section's heading. It seems somehow....inadequate. Something more specific, like style or composition or something like that. I'm in no way a reviewer, but I want to help, and when I returned from vacation, I saw that this album was being reviewed
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It isn't a GA criteria, but you really need to work on the reference formatting. Duff McKagan, Axl Rose and Sebastian Bach have only the first letter capitalized (refs 44, 118, 135). Second thing, Blabbermouth should be Blabbermouth.net, billboard.com and billboard.biz should be
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Not to open a genre debate, but I don't think that the opinion of Dizzy Reed should count as a reliable source. Suggest leaving only hard rock in the infobox because only Rolling Stone explicitly labeled the album as hard rock, unlike The Observer, which says GN'R mimicked Trent
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complain about from that angle, but that's only one facet of the GA criteria - you need to have facts presented with the appropriate balance in an article, and cited to reputable sources. In particular, fan websites are notorious for getting things wrong, and citations like the
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Ok, the most obvious thing that I see from first look is that the lead is desperately short, and does not summarize the entire article. Please expand it and remove all cites from there because the lead should not contain exclusive information (cites should be featured in the
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I've made a lot of fixes to the above things. The issues with citations are a lot of them come from reprinting of unavailable material (either print magazines or websites that are not archived) or interviews with people involved in making the album with more obscure sites.
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as industrial in the reviews & info about them. I don't see the ref formatting problem you were talking about, maybe I'm just looking right past it? I'll put the ALt text on my list of to-do's (I actually have a word file keeping track of this, which is kind of insane.)
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This is personal preference, but for sections of album articles describing the songs (eg: Led Zeppelin IV, The Beatles (album)), I've preferred putting the prose together without sub-headings for each song, except to split into sides of an LP (which doesn't really apply
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Reworded to two albums, Rose mentions here "The second leans probably a little more to aggressive electronica with full guitars, where the first one is definitely more guitar-based." and in other spots the intent to have two (or possibly more) albums from the "Chinese"
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I don't see summaries on the reviews by The Guardian, Mojo, Pitchfork Media, Q, and some others listed in the reception box for details. When you're doing these, please avoid quoting the authors (unless it's something amusing or witty) because the sections reads like a
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YouTube channel NatterNet is interviewing Brain, who disputes the derogatory statements from reference about Buckethead which have been in this Knowledge (XXG) article for years. The statements in question are disturbing and paint an inaccurate picture of Buckethead.
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fansites or youtube channels. While I agree with the general consensus that youtube is not a great source; it's a direct interview with the one of the people that made the album. I do think it should stay as it is now, with the claim's and Brain's dismissals of them.
5859:. We don't really want to get into the weeds with the he-said-she-said stuff. I have restored the contentious information, which is well sourced, and added some in-text attribution ("According to Zutaut...") so we're not just stating it in Knowledge (XXG)'s voice.
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Another thought: we should really have a paragraph, no more than two or three sentences, establishing the background leading up to the album - explaining that they were a hugely successful band with the previous lineup. This sets the stage for the next stuff. See
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I agree about the recording. I just added a bit about Frank Ferrer's recording. There's some information from Background section that can be incorporated. I'm gonna try and scour from interviews from other members, because like half the article is Tommy Stinson
4562:"At the recommendation of Freese, former Replacements bassist Tommy Stinson joined in early 1998, followed by second keyboardist and multi-instrumentalist Chris Pitman" - according to the Blabbermouth source, Pitman was already in the band when Stinson joined.
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Not sure, they've been around since at least 2001 (the copyright date lists 1993). They're a site that compiles tour dates and information. I couldn't find the information anywhere else on the web, and I searched for it for a while. If needed it can be
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The stability criteria is "Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute." The article did not change significantly from day to day because of an edit war or content dispute, it was expanded.
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I usually go with the album's liner notes for credits and personnel, but if you think they are inaccurate, go with the ASCAP. I have the CD with the booklet, and must say, I find it incredibly messy to list different personnel for every track on the
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An issue I'm having right now is finding info that's tagged for clarification on the Final Recording section. I can't find when Costanzo joined the album or when the harpist and conductor worked on it. I would assume mid-00's, but can't find the
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OK, I've restructured it. I think it's an improvement, more or less, but still needs lots of work to make it cohesive and flow well, and there are still lots of tags where things need citations or clarification. Still lots more work to do.
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Personnel and legal reasons, as well as Rose's alleged perfectionism caused the album to be delayed multiple times, including missing an announced March 2007 release date, before being released in November 2008. â Long winded and too many
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Thanks a bunch for taking the time to look. Let's leave it for now; the information may turn up eventually, and there's still work to do elsewhere. In the end, there may be a way to incorporate the information naturally without the
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The "Delays" section begins: "Producer Youth stated that in 1997 Rose was not ready to record the album" - OK, in 1997 what stage was the album at? Had they begun recording yet? You have to cross-reference another section to find
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I tried removing it myself but somehow messed up the table, so I'm writing here instead. There is no such thing as an "Israeli albums chart", and there never was. This is a chart of single store, and is far from being official.
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The lead of this article has really ballooned since I last looked at it. We don't need this extensive list of all the people who joined and left the band in the lead â it should be trimmed back to the more concise version. See
4750:"Rose said in 1999 that the band had recorded enough material for a double album" - the source says "I wouldn't say it's like, you know, that we recorded a double album, or that we have all of our scraps to be the second one."
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The sections where previously split a while back (by me, I think, it's been a while) because of how large the sections are. Most articles don't have sections on Delays, but then again most albums don't have the kind of history
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Check the formatting on the references from Blabbermouth (it should be under "publisher" with the first letter only being capitalized). Also, please check refs 10, 47, 100 because the article titles shouldn't be all in capital
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That's exactly what I'm proposing. I think it'd be a huge improvement. I don't think it'd "untraditional" either - is there a tradition of separating Delays into a different section for music articles? Don't think so...
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In general, I think the songs suffer from too much opinion and not enough of explaining the background, style or any other significant facts about them. See the two album GAs I referred to at the top of this section.
4623:"In February 1997, electronic producer Moby entered talks to produce" - I'm confused by this. Who was Moby talking to, did he actually produce anything, or was this just an idea thrown around? This needs more context.
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Most paragraphs consist of very short single clause sentences. It makes for a fairly disjointed read because there is no flow or fluidity from one sentence to another. This is particularly evident in the Background
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FasterLouder.com is an Australian blog, which describes itself as "the premier destination for online music debate and discovery with a uniquely Australian perspective". Secondly (this is just my personal opinion),
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Thanks for these links. I think the article has the potential to be great, but right now it's really hard to follow the chronology... I really think we need to straighten out the whole story from beginning to end.
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The paragraph starting "Rose stated in December 2008 that two alternate booklets were pending release, saying" has a quotation that is too long and needs to be trimmed. Also the last sentence in this paragraph is
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because Buckethead is not one to publicly defend himself. There exists a population that follows Buckethead and his collaborators such as Brain, but they are neither mainstream nor powerful. Thank you again. --
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I've noticed that you have several dead links in the references. Check the external links on this page's box (top right) for details. The dead links are in red, and the ones which change domain are in green.
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As you might have noticed, I've been doing some copyediting on this article. I'm not a GnR fan and knew nothing of the history of the album, and it's been interesting learning about it. Two main thoughts:
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is a hard rock/heavy metal webzine. It has been accepted in most cases, but it should be avoided if it's the only one reporting a subject. It's also not allowed for BLP statements. But it's listed on the
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You haven't addressed the issues with the non-free media. Why is the alternative cover needed for and what does the sample demonstrate (I don't see "Chinese Democracy" disscussed anywhere in the article)?
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I'll see what I can help with the reviews. Regarding the lyrics, I wanted to know if there is interpretation or inspiration (song's backround) on the tracks that are not discussed in the music section.--
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From the article "âThe âChinese Democracyâ album is very close to being completed,â Merck Mercuriadis, the chief executive officer of Sanctuary Group, which manages Mr. Rose, wrote in a recent statement
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Well, can you find some other sources that report the same information? I wouldn't have made an issue if there were two or three dead links, but having over 20 dead links in a potential GA doesn't seem
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reworked, trimmed. I'm not the best at trimming quotes so a second check would be nice if i did it right. Is there any documentation here on wiki or elsewhere on tips for paraphrasing quotes like that?
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each other. I propose all information be moved to this article -I'm pretty sure it is all here already-- and that article be redirected here where it should be and where it can easily be maintained.
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I'm sure the Personnel could be better organised? You don't need to list each and every engineering assistance separately. Just write Engineering assistance: and list the names separated by commas
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It is, but the issue here is that was not obvious that it was an official or authorised YouTube channel; therefore it must be considered a copyright violation source and cannot be used for a GA.
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I've removed the following images from the article; they are oversized and don't illustrate anything about the album or it's making and thus don't help the reader's understanding of the article.
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One of the reasons it's difficult to merge the sections currently is the same reason why the page is currently difficult to read. It's really difficult to get a sense of the timeline. Examples:
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much about a super dense song like "There Was a Time" or "I.R.S." (which for example has the longest high note in the entire GNR catalogue but that's not mentioned by any media or reviewers).
4609:"Early in the recording process, the band was reported to have 60 songs in development." - the source given doesn't seem to verify this; I can see a reference to "60 guitars" but not 60 songs
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You still haven't corrected the charts as explained above. About the proposed merging of the recording and delays sections, I wouldn't do it because those sections are already large enough.
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I thought the genre issue was cleared some weeks ago. Nu metal isn't explicitelly supported by any reference. An author being reminded of Nine Inch Nails doesn't really counts as nu metal.
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4110:"Guitarist Richard Fortus said all but his contribution, the chorus to "Better", had been written by the time he joined". When did he join? This information is in a different section...
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It strikes me that there seems to be a lot of information out there on the actual recording history (of which this album has more than most) that isn't in the article yet. For example,
4455:"however, bassist Duff McKagan said the band "was so stoned at that point that nothing got finished"" - the Time Off citation does not seem to work, so I cannot verify this quotation.
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Can I get someone to help me with that part? I've never figured out formatting on charts on tables on wiki and anytime I've tried to edit them I end up just hilariously breaking them.
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Interviewer: "Tom Zutaut said about this porn story, that Buckethead was in the studio watching hardcore pornography to get inspired and Buckethead fans were like 'that's bullshit'."
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The quote itself is a direct quote from Rose from the alternate CD booklets. I have a copy of that and can verify its correct, and scans can be found online. Replacing it with the
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passionately denied by Brain (that is, Bryan Kei "Brain" Mantia). Brain's interview is well sourced because it is available as an audio track and has also been transcribed here:
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There's a ref foermatting problem in the second paragraph of "Delays". Also, can you expand the lead a little bit with information about the recording and the numerous delays?
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should be avoided like the plague. However, I think it's worth carrying on with the review just to list issues, so you've got a complete set of notes to work off for future.
4468:"Guitarist Slash criticized singer Axl Rose for running the band "like a dictatorship"" - the source says he said it seemed like a dictatorship, which is not quite so strong.
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5226:"one shooter's preference for the Guns song Brownstone to no avail" - the second citation here appears to be to a forum post (same source re-used later on in this section)
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Hey guys. Just wanted to clear it up that nu metal was covered by refs, the only thing is that there's only one reviewer who says so. He has two articles mentioning it
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You should definitely rearrange the critical reception because it is bloated with quotes. Please summarize some of the reviews, and avoid citing every single reviewer.
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Can you find informarion such as second week sales in the US, or sales bu the end of 2008 in the US or worldwide? I think that section is not entirely researched.
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It's a very large article which a lot of detail. Couldn't some parts be trimmed down and told more concisely? Just streamlined more.
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How can the album be three types of rock and one type of metal? I find it concerning when info boxes list more than one genre.
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that's weird, control+F failed me earlier. anyways, that's a reprint of an interview Vrenna did that's lost to time. -RF23
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Ref 112 is not properly formatted. If you don't know the author, drop it. Also, the "website" field should be filled with
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Please watch and listen to this video from about 2:28 through about 5:50.
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Yup, I think we're all done here, so I'll pass the review now. Well done!
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website that actually reported on that, info can be deleted if necessary.
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Hello. I'm Calvin999, and I am reviewing this Good Article nomination. Â â
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Made some more fixes to the sources, this round was surprisingly easier.
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I haven't re-sorted the layout of the lead yet, but the rest is done.
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http://www.ariacharts.com.au/pages/charts_display_album.asp?chart=1G50
5107:"....and Tim Palmer" - why do you need five citations to verify this?
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The quotation from the statement about Buckethead needs to be trimmed
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stopping the show and heckling some idiot as I think they're funny.
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http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/page/classicrock?entry=it_s_a_fact
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delays" section, but I'd like to get some input on that before I do.
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http://musiccanada.com/gold-platinum/?fwp_gp_search=guns%20n%20roses
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These are the dead links I checked myself: 2, 35, 37, 119, 120, 155.
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Removal of Unsubstantiated and Derogatory Comments About Buckethead
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Found the original article & replaced the metalunderground url.
4595:"Early in the recording process, the band was reported" - by whom?
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replaced it with the original link, an interview with Bumblefoot.
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Nu metal needs to be removed for sure if you can't source it. Â â
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I just added some information I found about the drum recording
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as it's been a while, but I'm sure that mentions image sizes.
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http://www.cede.ch/de/music-cd/frames/right.cfm?aobj=577685
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What makes www.heretodaygonetohell.com a reliable source?
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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MTV is formated in multiple different ways. Be consistent.
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The last two paragraphs of Style and composition are huge.
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worked with the band for a few months shortly afterward.
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I have just added archive links to 29 external links on
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The introduction to the interview is also useful here:
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Subject: The Guns N' Roses album, Chinese Democracy,
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it has an interview with the art director Ryan Corey.
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hard rock, electronic rock, industrial rock, nu metal
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Brain denied that Buckethead had acted disruptively.
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Rose's vocal parts were recorded in less than a week
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domestically undersold expectations. â Why? Briefly.
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Oops! I forget things too. No prob. I meant to. '^^
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4765:What makes metalunderground.com a reliable source?
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1167:I call the big one bitey 22:45, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
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5470:What makes axelrosefaclube.com a reliable source?
4505:, and the source used as an interview with Vrenna.
3353:http://swisscharts.com/charts/jahreshitparade/2009
2733:: The charts need to be by alphabetical order per
6095:Articles copy edited by the Guild of Copy Editors
5211:What makes metalinjection.net a reliable source?
4511:What makes providermodule.com a reliable source?
4369:it was delayed and completely re-recorded in 2000
2917:Charts table should be alphabetical. US, not U.S.
2670:perfectionism caused â Comma needed in the middle
2225:http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/release/d/795433/1/
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3083:http://music.msn.com/music/consumerguide/2009/2/
2928:Picture of Ulrich Schnauss doesn't add anything.
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5456:It was a website launched by Flickr co-founder
5296:It's an interview with Keyboardist Chris Pitman
5080:What makes rockmymonkey.com a reliable source?
5074:Not sure but it's an interview with Bumblefoot.
4790:What makes gnrevolution.com a reliable source?
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5789:Participate in the deletion discussion at the
5198:What makes hem.passangen.se a reliable source?
4517:I'm not seeing that URL in any of the sources.
3727:This message was posted before February 2018.
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5290:What makes WickedInfo.com a reliable source?
5038:What makes bravewords.com a reliable source?
4831:Might be easiest to find another source for "
4694:What makes Allstarmag.com a reliable source?
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4495:What makes audiohead.net a reliable source?
2661:Despite debuting at â Although it debuted at
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5834:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1HszllMqNI
5825:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtcljfmQGEw
5340:What makes www.a-4-d.com a reliable source?
2167:http://www.idiomag.com/peek/62998/metallica
5814:https://en.wikipedia.org/Chinese_Democracy
5450:What makes findery.com a reliable source?
5068:What makes MetalFan.ro a reliable source?
5047:is a famous metal magazine/site edited by
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4778:What makes htgth.com a reliable source?
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2552:So it's essentially rock? Â â
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5248:Might be better to do that.
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4115:Do you see what I mean?
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