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370: 360: 339: 465: 444: 475: 190: 308: 807:公民 and 国籍 have nothing to do with ethnicity. Ethnicity is associated with a common genealogy or ancestry: there are multiple ethnicities within China. Although Chinese nationality policies may be de facto racist, nowhere is it stated up front that yellow skin qualifies someone for citizenship. We should stop using the phrase "ethnic Chinese" in the article. -- 664:. Due to PRC and ROC claiming each other's administered territory, PRC nationals are also considered ROC nationals and vice versa. However, anyone publicly saying that s/he is a national of the PRC and the ROC is likely to be questioned about the loyalty as the PRC and ROC have serious political conflicts.-- 1326:
Saying that China has a border with Afghanistan which creates a potential for an influx of refugees is ridiculous. The border is relatively short and virtually impassable mountainous terrain. The window for getting through during the summer is quite short and the single route through the mountains is
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Will there be any changes to the Chinese nationality law regarding overseas Chinese? My parents were both born in China, but settled in the USA by the time I was born, which means I am not entitled to Chinese citizenship. Do you think China will change this to make it easier for people like me to get
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Only in the case of HK and Macau as far as I know. Their own Basic Laws have made special provisions before the handovers in 1997 and 1999 respectively to allow would be Chinese nationals to keep whatever foreign citizenship they have beyond the handovers. Despite having foreign citenship, they would
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It seems to me that the latter should be the case - i.e. involuntary acquisition should work under Art 9 the same way as voluntary acquisition, i.e. the quesiton is whether the person was settled abroad at the time of acquisition. In the example given, if the woman was settled in Iran at the time of
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Okay, but in this case the primary source refers to "territory", and in different contexts Chinese law has different concepts of "territory". For example, for customs and immigration purposes, Chinese "territory" often refers only to mainland China, as Taiwan is obviously a separate customs area. It
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In the case of any provision in which any reference is made to "the People’s Republic of China" or "China" or to a similar name or expression, such reference shall be construed as a reference to the People’s Republic of China as including Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau; and in the case of any provision
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is quite clear, it applies to Hong Kong and Macau residents who were born in the Chinese territories (including Hong Kong and Macau). The effect is that birth in Hong Kong and Macau has the same effect as birtn ih mainland China. The paragraph as it stood was not entirely clear on this and suggested
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You can "keep" your foreign citizenship after you are naturalised as a Chinese national, just that your foreign citizenship will not be recognised by the PRC in China and its SARs. Don't know if naturalisation as Chinese national requires renunciation of one's foreign citizenship, but if the foreign
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I am not Chinese (neither Chinese national nor ethnic Chinese). As I am dealing with Chinese immigrants to Canada, I would appreciate clarification on the question of dual citizenship. In particular, if a citizen of the PRC takes out citizenship in another country, does he or she automatically lose
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is not clear to me from the primary source whether the "territory" is in this case intended to include Taiwan. I have no objection to inclusion of Taiwan in this context if you have confirmed the reading against a secondary source or if you are confident that it is clear from the primary source. --
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I am not clear on the section that describes citizenship for Arabs to be problematic or complicated. There is a statement that points out the issue of Egyptians, Libyans, Mauritanians, Omanis, Algerians and Tunisians who are born in China in reference to citizenship. Are there high intermarriage
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There is no provision in Chinese nationality law regarding the involuntary acquisition of another country's nationality can cause the loss of Chinese nationality. An example would be a Chinese woman marries a man from a country observing jus matrimonii (e.g. Iran), in which case she automatically
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What provision is there legally to define chinese nationality before 1980? In other words, what legal instrument defined all Chinese nationals as PRC citizen beginning in 1949 upon PRC's creation? What about prior to 1949? what legal status did Chinese nationals had before 1949? What if they were
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Yes, though when I originally created this article I thought it would be confusing for readers who are not familiar with how the "nationality" term used by the PRC, since such definition is very different from how it is used elsewhere. From what I interpret, the term "nationality" used by the PRC
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I am pakistan national . currently my situation is i found death threats from extremists religions group in pakitan so i left pakistan forever. i come here in china. i have a girl friend here we want to marriage. but my situation is i am over stay here. i want chinese nationaity .if we go for
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in which any reference is made to such name or expression as the Mainland, Taiwan, Hong Kong or Macau, whether separately or concurrently, such reference shall be construed respectively as a reference to the Mainland, Taiwan, Hong Kong or Macau, as a part of the People’s Republic of China.
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Ok, I think I was wrong. Sorry for so much trouble, I just interpret it from the English version (didn't had the Chinese version on hand when I created this article) and the usage of the word by the Chinese government. I'll update the article shortly according to the Chinese version.
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Annex 3 of the Decision of the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress on Treatment of the Laws Previously in Force in Hong Kong in Accordance with Article 160 of the Basic Law of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People’s Republic of China:
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PRC hardly reflect what the law says. For the "btw part", if you mean that the nationality law of PRC says that only ethnic Chinese (in general) can become its citizen then I am afraid that's true. You can see this from the English translation in the external links.
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I'm not sure why arabs are singled out either. I'm sure this is the case for other strict jus sangunis countries as well. Do we really need to list all the applicable arab countries, seeing that is probably a small proportion of foreigners in China.
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Yes but a distinction needs to be made between references that are to the PRC itself and references that are regarding China as a whole. Btw, regarding "ethnic Chinese" — can that be clarified, because would then this be a racial policy ... ?
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i dont know how you can compare singapore to usa. most chinese in america are 1st generation. anyone whos parents were permanent residents of another country at the time of the childs birth do not qualify for chinese citizenship.
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Does "China" need to be converted? Because in whatever definition (include Taiwan or not), PRC still treat those people as Chinese citizens (at least unilaterally) and we are talking about the nationality law of PRC here.
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As long as they keep their Chinese names, and are willing to give up a passport, but born outside the PRC, and whose parents do not hold Chinese nationality (let's say, third or fourth or fifth generation, etc. like most
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acquisition, she loses her Chinese citizenship. If she was not (and was in China), she does not lose her Chinese citizenship and her new Iranian citizenship - recognised in Iran - is simply not recognised in China. --
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I understand that it is not really one to one equivalent, but if the article uses "Chinese national" in place of "ethnic Chinese", it would be rather confusing for English readers because the term usually means
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We do not give legal advice on Knowledge but in your case Article 7 would apply. Chinese citizenship is not automatic through marraige and one must renounce its foreign citizenship to become Chinese citizen.
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that it (retrospectivley) bestowed Chinese citizenship on overseas Chinese people who might have nothing to do with Hong Kong or Macau other than being born there, but this isn't quite accurate becuase the
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Hmm. Well maybe the person who authored this section of the article could elaborate why he/she wrote what they wrote? It certainly deserves a bit of explanation to say the least. 5:05, 26 February 2007
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or many Chinese-Americans in the US) what is the context of this issue? Are they counted as "not ethnic Chinese" or...? (Not that I'd trade in my passport, just out of curiosity for legal matters.)
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citizen (commonly used in western countries) or natinoal (used by Chinese government). In this context it stands for national and I believe the definition should be as same as the one stated in
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I just added a template to Wikisource. Speaking of Chen You-hao getting a PRC passport to flee to the US, I have also heard of ROC passports issued to mainland democratic activisits after the
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I agree the Afghan border isn't a big refugee site. Also the article omits the tens of thousands of Burmese refugees and the many illegal migrant workers from South East Asian countries.
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PRC citizenship? Or, is there a legal procedure for stripping the individual of PRC citizenship if and when it becomes known to the government of the PRC? How does it work? Thank you!
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only be recognised as Chinese citizens in the SAR and China. This also means Chinese nationality is lost automatically when naturalising as foreign nationals after 1997 and 1999. --
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country does not allow renunciation then in theory you are still citizen of that country in the eyes of that country (as long as that country allow dual citizenship). --
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I don't see why you keep bringing up ethnicity. 公民 (citizen) and 民族 (ethnicity/nationality) are some very separate concepts. The latter is not relevant here. --
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can someone please include a link to a website that teaches people how to get Chinese citizenship. which office to apply to in beijing? a physical address?
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I'm not specifically opposed to using "Chinese nationality" as the government does, but "PRC citizen"/"PRC national" is more congurent with
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rates between these groups and Chinese? Can someone please clarify any possible misunderstinding I may have in reference to this Passage?
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Hello, does anyone know what this paragraph is intended to say? The meaning is slightly unclear, possibly due to some missing words:
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I have slightly cleaned up the paragraph on acquisition of citizenship by birth in Hong Kong and Macau: the Chinese government's
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Yes, but I assume that includes the 56 nationalities, because AFAIK they are not "ethnic Chinese" (in the sense of Han Chinese).
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This is "Chinese Nationality" singular and not a translation of Zhonghua Minzu. Please take a look at the original Chinese. --
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The official translation of the Nationality Law itself uses the term "of Chinese nationality" instead of "ethnic Chinese". --
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are there any loopholes to getting chinese citizenship without giving up your current citizenship from another country?
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I believe adding a sentence explaining what China means in this context would be the best? Because changing China -: -->
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Yes I am aware of such definition by the PRC government. I'd propose adding a footnote to clarify the definition used.
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since china doesnt consider taiwan to be a country, can a person potentially hold both a prc and taiwanese passport?
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This article needs all mention of PRC-specific instances of "China" converted, then the cleanup tag can be removed.
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characters are designated for PRC, and the nationality field of its passports are "Chinese". For Taiwan, they used
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Although most of the nationalities can be seen as ethnic groups, the correspondence is not one to one.
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treacherous. Even when the border was completely open to trade, almost nobody ever went through.
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To follow how it is officially used. I know some of you may consider it to be POV but since the
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Hi. Please note that according to the Law of the PRC, Taiwan is recognized as a part of China.
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I just looked at the and the term "Chinese nationality" as translated has nothing to do with
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only applies to Hong Kong and Macau residents and does not affect the operation of Art 9. --
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I think the use of "ethnic Chinese" in this article is too ambiguous as to whether it means
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on the nationality field. I think there is no problem in saying its Chinese natinoality. --
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I just read the nationality law again, my understanding now is: "Chinese national" -: -->
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What are the regulations on obtaining passports for Taiwan residents? It's possible, as
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Is this paragraph saying that there is no provision, so involuntary acquisition does
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How do Taiwan citizens apply for PRC citizenship? Are they automatically eligible?
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escaped to the US on a PRC passport after Taiwan issued an arrest warrant for him.--
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I think there should be a seperate article for "Chinese nationality" in general. --
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Not easily. Taiwan will cancel your Taiwan residency if you hold a PRC passport.
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for involuntary acquisition, so it works the same way as voluntary acquisition?
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Taiwan is part of the sacred territory of the People’s Republic of China.
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register our marriage. may i have chinese nationality in this situation?
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The PRC considers residents of Taiwan to automatically be PRC nationals.
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lead to loss of Chinese nationality? Or is it saying that there is no
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Yes.. but then according to the terminologies of the PRC government,
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nationality law". The same should apply for these two articles.
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Preamble of the Constitution of the People's Republic of China:
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Agreed. but we should use the term consistently in the article--
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Also does the law apply theoretically to people of Taiwan? --
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Acquisition of citizenship by descent - Hong Kong and Macau
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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I shall be very thankfull to you for your kind advice.
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born under Qing Empire, in the mainland or otherwise?
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