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I've reached out to a ham radio DX-pedition that is planning on going to Clipperton and they've agreed to release a few photos and possibly a short video under a CC license so that'll be a nice new addition to the article. If for whatever reason anyone knows of someone going here please let us know
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typically begin as a fringing reef around a volcanic island. When the volcano goes extinct, it can subside (basically erode away) leaving just the growing reef, which can form an atoll. In this case, Clipperton Rock is a part of that original volcanic island rim that did not totally subside. I
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The land ring surrounding the lagoon measures 1.7 square kilometres (0.66 sq mi) in area with an average elevation of 2 m (6.6 ft) although a small volcanic outcropping, referred to as Clipperton Rock (Rocher de Clipperton), rises to 29 m (95 ft) on its southeast
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Under the heading "geography," "in the 1940s American ships reported active problems in this regard" shoud be deleted since it doesn't add geographical info, is more thoroughly covered under "history," and "active problems" is a nonsensical construction.
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The distance to Hawaii is given as 4,940 km - but Google maps shows it is 5,325 to Honolulu, and 5,060 to the centre of the island of Hawai'i, and 4,990 km to the easternmost tip of the island; i.e. 4,940 km is some 50 km short (OK, an error of 1%).
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The lagoon is devoid of fish, and is shallow over parts of the previous coral reefs but contains some deep basins with depths of 43–72 m (141–236 ft), including a spot known as Trou "Sans Fond" ('the bottomless hole') with acidic water at its
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Source: "After spending a month on Clipperton setting up and calibrating radar equipment to monitor Ariane flight V88, the mission ended in disappointment when the rocket disintegrated 37 seconds after launch due to a software bug"
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Source: "However, after the French government was notified about the weather station, relations on this matter deteriorated rapidly with the French government sending a formal note of protest in defense of French sovereignty"
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due to commonalities between its marine fauna and the marine fauna of Hawaii and Kiribati's Line Islands, with the island sitting along the migration path for animals in the Eastern Tropical Pacific region
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the interconnectivity of its marine fauna with the marine fauna of Hawaii and Kiribati's Line Islands, with the island being labelled as a stepping stone between the southcentral and southeastern Pacific
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Yes, the article does look good! I'll put this article on hold for now for 7 days, so that we can finish the above comments. If these issues are fixed I'll have another quick check of the article.
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Source: "On 19 July 1934, soon after the stop at Clipperton, the rigid airship USS Macon rendezvoused with the Houston, and one of the Macon's Curtiss F9C biplanes delivered mail to president"
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Clipperton Rock is the remains of the island's now extinct volcano; because it includes this rocky remanent, Clipperton is not a true atoll and is sometimes referred to as a 'near-atoll'
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The basic concept is that Clipperton is part of a bigger Pacific ecosystem, which can be seen in the related species that span the Eastern Tropical Pacific. Replaced with
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Can you be more specific? The first section gives a quick overview of recent research expeditions to the island. I'm not sure I'm seeing what would be weaselly there. —
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I'll take a look at this later today but thank you for going over everything and for your notes. Really glad to see how well this article is shaping up!
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is the current page for the ship, which is all database and not user-generated, shows the ship is still in service (the relevant claim). Will update.
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Agree that the image's distances may be using some rounding or conversion factor that's not quite precise (or maybe it's a calculation error). —
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Source: "In 1931, Victor Emmanuel III issued his arbitral decision in the 'Clipperton Island Case', declaring Clipperton a French possession"
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Ref 96 (now 97): Hasn't been discussed at WP:RS. The archive shows some user-generated content separated from the database information.
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After skimming through the article, it seems like this is in a good condition. I'll try and review this as quick as possible.
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Ref 25 (now 26): Primary, but acceptable use, interview with a sailor stationed there. Additional sources support the claims.
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Ref 217: Primary, but acceptable use to support statement that Cordell Expedition and TX5K DX-pedition were connected.
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Corrected to align with the map. (I get 1243.68 km from Google Earth, but will go with the published source ...) —
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Sorry for the delay, I was just about to finish the previous GA nomination. I'll try to post some comments today.
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I think that's it for the prose comments. Just chcecking reliability of references. Are these reliable:
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No rush, it's all good, I'm just grateful that you're giving us feedback. Take your time it's all good.
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The island is assigned the French postal code 98799, though there is no post office on the island.
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at start of the section. Is further explanation of the formation of coral islands needed here? —
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Is the first part of Environment necessary? It is slightly weaselly, I'm not sure though.
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The lead mentions that Clipperton Island is 1,080 km from Acapulco - but the map (under
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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I can't see any more problems right now, so I will pass the article.
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Clipperton Island is the only French possession in the North Pacific.
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Ref 3: Primary, but acceptable use, it's the relevant French statute
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Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
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Checked Earwig's copyvio detector. Doesn't seem to be plagiarism.
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only for the rocket to disintegrate 37 seconds after launch?
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