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publicised nationwide, across a variety of media) and the argument to keep the article strengthens significantly, based on my former point. However it turns out, you will be under some pressure to recant your opinions, should the campaign to get their record to number one (or even anywhere nearby) in the UK at
Christmas 2016 be a success, because it will be an historical event, based on the absolute fact that a very well thought of individual of the Manchester music scene has suddenly passed away. And people (not just parochially) felt strongly about that.
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