Talk:Criticism of Islam - Knowledge (XXG)

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conversion, then it's best not to include it in an encyclopedic entry. Further, even if he did convert, the validity of the critique depends on the strength of the arguments and evidence provided, not the personal beliefs of the critic. Drawing connection between his conversion and "changing his mind" about his critiques is your own thoughts, not those of the source. In fact we do not know why he ostensibly converted, and it could be "to avoid heavy taxation, or to escape humiliation, or if taken prisoner", in which case his conversion strengths his critiques. Conversion does not necessarily imply full agreement with every aspect of the faith: there are Muslims who critique Islam for similar things as Ibn, and Christians who critique evangelicals for how they spread their faith.

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factors contributing to the spread of Islam. It is not a critique or negative evaluation of Islam as a religion or as a cultural phenomenon. Further, it downplays the role of conquest in the spread of Islam. The spread of Islam was significantly facilitated by military conquest and forced conversions as well, and a criticism article should focus more on the instances of violent expansion than peaceful methods.

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including Islam. Sadiq Hedayat is just an example of those who are not experts but said things about Islam. Many of the quotations in this article, in my opinion, should go to wikiquote if they are so important, but a wikipedia article should be written based on the reliable sources by subject-matter experts.If so, this article would become much shorter.

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the spread of Islam. Therefore, it wouldn't fit logically or contextually within this paragraph, except as an attempt to refute the historical critics, which doesn't make sense to do here as this isn't a "history" article. Inserting a general analysis of the spread of Islam would disrupt the flow of the narrative.

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Same time pl. help us understand; What is the relation between Knowledge (XXG) article length of any article and native language of any reader or an editor? Usually connecting unrelated things sounds fallacious, unless you can give sound reason. If any such explanation exists then help us understand.

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I'd like to add that I don't agree with the claim that Muhammad himself has nothing or little to do with the subject of this article. Alongside Allah, he is a central figure in Islam. And many of his immediate actions and teachings are being criticized here. The connection, pertinence or relevance of

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The paragraph you've chosen to include the passage in pertains to specific figures (Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaiologos, Paul of Antioch, and Denis the Carthusian) and their individual criticisms of Islam. Your proposed addition is a general opinion analysis of the varied factors contributing to

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I didn't say that I don't speak English fluently. Believe it or not, I speak it near-natively (near-fluently) and have edited in English Knowledge (XXG) from time time for many years now. But, as a near-native speaker of English, not a native speaker, I am more prone to cognitive biases when reading

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Source is very critical that he converted to Islam. Why include a speculation which the authors deem likely to be based off of a known misunderstanding? Saying "may", and even including it at all, makes it seem like it's at least probable. Since the source material itself doubts the validity of the

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The passage in question, "Historians studying the early history of Islam and its transregional expansion have found that the historical variables at hand were much more varied and complex than the 'conquest by the sword' thesis," provides historical context someone's take on an understanding of the

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I cannot be of much help here, this is not a topic I am terribly familiar with (I rather tend to avoid it, as most times I stumble upon it it is by people who are ideologically motivated). I really don't know what to suggest for improving the present article, let alone a bibliography for it. My two

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wasn't a critic (and isnt even mentioned in the article itself), yet you don't bother to remove his image, Muhammad is mentioned many times in this article and depictions of him are relevant to islamic criticism, so again if anything we should be putting a depiction of muhammad from Dante's inferno

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It adds as much any of the other pictures of relevant people on the article, yet there is no push to remove them. And there is actually pictures of Jesus and Adam in that article as well as other religious portraits just like the one I’m trying to add, what is the reason for this defensiveness in

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At the same time, it seems that a good place to start might be some of the sources already cited in this article. It's very likely that those also offer counter-views that would balance the article, i.e., it's likely that some of these sources also provide Muslims' responses to these criticisms.

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This article is a collection of quotes from various people, most of whom are not experts in Islam. Sadegh Hedayat, for example was a despairing storyteller who ended up committing suicide and it is natural for him to see nothing bright in this world, and it is natural to speak ill of everything,

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available for non-native speakers. To say non-native readers having reasonably good understanding of English would have additional cognitive biases does not sound convincing; but any way that does not matter when users here are ready to consider proposals to address article length issue. What is

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have similar and repeated critiques, so it is best to combine them and trim the redundant information. I'll work on this. Furthermore, since this article focuses on criticism of Islam as a religion, including its laws and ethics, critiques related to Muhammad and Hadiths, which have dedicated

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One of the most common critiques refers to the direct, unequivocal and repeated message in the Quran that Jesus never died, neither by crucifixion (as the "Christian" sources tell us), nor by hanging (as the Jewish sources tell us). I am not familiar with Roman sources. It might even be that

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I the OP have no opinion about how to split the article, primarily because I haven't read the article, it's too long, dense and general for me to read, at least from a screen and not printed. I ask if people who read the article have any suggestion. No one should wait for my own suggestion.

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My only involvement with this article was to revert some unexplained content removal a few years ago. I have no opinion on splitting the article. I have not reviewed the article and have no time to spend on it. It is not on the topics I have worked on or am working on.

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It seemed clear to me (especially given the age and art style), if thats the issues I can find others. What is the relevance of the Dante and David Hume images? Breaking up the text and adding relevant images just as mine did, why is this image treated differently?

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My apologies if this sounds rude but, if you are not fluent in English, then why would you be editing the English version of Knowledge (XXG)? I can read and write French and Spanish, but nowhere near fluently enough to be able to improve articles written in those

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Seem apocryphal and impossible since Islam didn't exist until Muhammad invented it. Adam isn't even the founder of Judaism. Please leave your religious POV out of Knowledge (XXG), this is for factual information, not promoting religious beliefs.

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Thank you all. I'm trying to start working on the article and I'll get more help from you in the meantime. For the time being I am focusing on summarizing the article. After that we could include counter-views, and delete weak-sourced content,

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The image was primarily not suitable because it was A) a random cropping of a larger image for no apparent reason, B) was blurry and looked shit, C) was chosen seemingly at random (why a Timurid image, why that one? There are many others on

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is another editor who was extensive knowledge on medieval theology and historiography, both on the Christian and the Islamic side. Otherwise, I am drawing a blank; at least I would try to contact some of the more active members of

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As I am writing mostly on early Islamic history, the editors I have interacted with are also more involved with that topic, so I don't know whether they are familiar with these issues or want to work on this topic. Of this group,

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Do not revert unnecessary edits (i.e., edits that neither improve nor harm the article). For a reversion to be appropriate, the reverted edit must actually make the article worse. Knowledge (XXG) does not have a bias toward the

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For example it was written that prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) was the founder of Islam, which is 100% wrong, he is not a founder of Islam instead he is the last and final prophet of Islam. Adam (p.b.u.h) was the founder of Islam.

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I stand corrected. There's a pic of God\Jesus there indeed. I think this makes your case stronger. However, unfortunately, you'll still have to convince other users that the addition of Mohammed's image is an improvement.

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article are extremely long to the level that I can't read them, let along edit them and I am sure I am not the only one, this will become worse for people who's native language isn't English nor any Germanic language.

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I am trying to add a picture of Muhammad to give the article more context and flavor and it keeps getting removed without any logical explanations. If No one raises any legitimate criticism I will be putting it back.

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The very creation of "Simple English" Knowledge (XXG) was in my opinion, a dire mistake. All you English Knowledge (XXG) members needed and need to do is to just split and split and more split and of course, more

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Scholars specializing in the early history of Islam and its transregional expansion have found that the historical factors involved were much more varied and complex than the “conquest by the sword” thesis would

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that people converted to Islam "to avoid heavy taxation, or to escape humiliation, or if taken prisoner." He contrasted this to the lack of respected non-Muslims converting to Islam without the aforementioned

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section. I think merging these three groups of information would make the article much shorter. To do this, and as suggested by Constantine above, I am trying to focus on specific topics/points of criticism.

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has very extensive and thorough grasp of the theological and historiographical topics, and the scholarly literature, on early Islam. I would definitely recommend to seek his input, at least as a reviewer.

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are a controversial issue, they offend many (if not the majority of) Muslims, and should not be added gratuitously, which is the case here. There is zero context for that image in the place it was added.

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Do note that I have removed this section in the recent changes. Although the section addressed the persecution of Muslims that was covered by the sources, it did not however, cover criticisms of Islam.

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Historians studying the early history of Islam and its transregional expansion have found that the historical variables at hand were much more varied and complex than the "conquest by the sword" thesis.

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There would be no second opinion that we all can work towards managing length of the article to an optimum. Also no issues in revisiting quotes to find their relevance and conciseness on quote by quote

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I found this to be a considerable task just for one section. What I've also found is that other editors over time have been determined to expand the pruned section far beyond what I think it should be.

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While summarizing the article I noticed that some subjects are discussed in two or three different sections, once in the "History" section as an isolated assertion, next in their related sections (

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opinion that the encyclopedia article should reflect. For the same reason, I suspect that some sources of the present article would not qualify as reliable upon closer inspection. For example, is

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My native language is not English nor is it any Germanic language and I am having trouble to find myself in this extremely long article. The Table of Contents doesn't really help me in this case.

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I agree. The topic of this article is Islam, not Muhammad. The image is irrelevant to the article topic, it is irrelevant to the context of the section it was put in, and serves no purpose. ~

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Muhammed is the creator of islam and is mentioned many times so it is relevant. What is the relevance of the David Hume and Dante portraits? Why are you not making a fuss over other images?

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I’m happy to have no image. It was the “beloved prophet” in an article about criticism that I objected to. Note also that most if not all of this editor’s edits have been problematic.

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to support the project, please visit the project page, where you can get more details on how you can help, and where you can join the

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Thank you for the encouraging words :) I have neither knowledge nor interest in this area though. And currently not much time either to study a whole new subject. I think

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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not.

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Agree, let's see what OP thinks the article should be broken out into. It is pretty long. The plethora of quotes in the modern era subsection for example stands out.

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needs a reassessment of its Importance level, as it has little to do with atheism and is instead an article about anti-theist/anti-religious actions of governments.

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Yeah, I spotted that. A lot of that material is just about anti-Muslim sentiment, not criticism of the religion per se. Some of it could probably just be moved to

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Part of the problem here is someone volunteering to write summary sections for each of the sections that would be broken out into a new article. When I separated

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read page 22. It says he probably didn't convert..no reason to think he did. and again on page 23: "hard to believe". even if so, irrelevant to this discussion.

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No i don't make unwarranted removals without logical reasons which is what you've done, if you dont provide a reason for this removal I will be returning it.

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This reminds me, on some talk pages previously I discussed importance of avoiding common mistake of presenting Muslims as Islam and vice versa. That said.

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as I said it was the caption which was the issue for me. The editor adding the image seems to be insisting on the caption rather than just an any image.

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specific doctrines, practices, or effects. The passage in question does not present an evaluative judgment but rather an analysis of historical factors.

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really an authority to be quoted here? A sensitive topic like this should only be approached with the highest quality of preferably academic sources.

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There are some parts that shouldn't be part of this article anyway. Like Criticism of Muslim Immigration. Completely out of scope for this article. @

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I disagree. I hope the newest edit is a middle ground. I like the summary now. It still doesn't really need to be included, but it's not incorrect.

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I wasn't able to restore your exact Churchill version now, sorry. I will do it later today. Feel free to restore the Churchill section yourself.

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My apologies, I misunderstood "this will become worse for people who's native language isn't English nor any Germanic language" in your comment.

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which is not an accurate representation of the source. I have no problem summarizing the text further, but it must represent the source.

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cents would be to reduce the reliance on isolated quotes by famous figures, and focus more on specific topics/points of criticism.

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This is equally as opinionated as the person you replied to. Take your religion, even if it is avowed atheism, out of this.

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Some critic died by committing suicide or naturally or some other reason; and also is notable but not expert, seem to be

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Table about Unfavorable views and other paragraphs after first paragraph after the table, certainly belong to the article

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I tag the profiles of users active in editing the article in the last five years (as apparent from the revision history).

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In this section, a picture of Sigismund Koelle or Ibn Warraq would be more relevant than a Timurid prophet portrait.

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Juan Campo notes that there were additional factors besides "conquest by the sword" that led to the spread of Islam.

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Because Dante and David Hume were "critics", and therefore fairly central to the core subject: that of "criticism".

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article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

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This discussion is about the image you added, not the rest of the article. Feel free to remove irrelevant images.

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Agreed that very long texts may make navigation difficult for persons of any linguistic background. We also have

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Agree. So the first step for us might be to find out which sources would better help us rewrite this article.

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Section heading seems problematic and would need to be changed if first paragraph of section to be retained.

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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Articles should present the prevailing viewpoints from reliable sources, whether positive or negative.

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It has been removed by three editors for a range of reasons, so attain consensus before restoring it.

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The term "criticism" refers to at the very least, evaluative judgments, and almost always judgements

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any such criticism be better addressed through responses to criticism supported by reliable sources

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in general, or criticism that applies to all monotheistic religions, such as arguments against the

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by checking whether ] has been added to atheism-related articles – and, where it hasn't, adding it.

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In my honest opinion what is supposed to matter is existence of present or past criticism in

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Add Atheism info box to all atheism related talk pages (use {{WikiProject Atheism}} or see

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Pl let come point by point suggestions to address length issue. Wish you happy editing.

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Running this article through prosesize tells us that this has a prose of 11k words and

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exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute.

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The passage you want to add is an analytical statement about the historical growth of

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Try to expand stubs. Ideas and theories about life, however, are prone to generating

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WP:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#Criticism by non-expert RS, to be or not to be?

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I humbly suggest splitting this article to several different articles by context.

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to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for

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may have ultimately converted to Islam, is not irrelevant to his saying

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Always present positive viewpoints along with any negative information

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and any further personalizing discussion related to same should go to

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has no images of Jesus. (at least that I could find while skimming).

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Hello Bookku, please read my reply just above your reply. Thanks.

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I'm not opposed to its inclusion, but I don't think it adds much.

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Knowledge (XXG) level-5 vital articles in Philosophy and religion

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of Muhammad has nothing to do with the subject of this article.

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defines it as a being restricted to America in the 21st century.

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might not have converted to Islam, that is why I used the word

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So that's the real objection, as I suspected. So happens that

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First paragraph after the table seem to have some relevance.

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Use a "standard" layout for atheism-related articles (see

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I changed it to the following and put it in the article:

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Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs.

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Muhammad and this article is undeniable in my view. –

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important next is well meaning concrete suggestions.

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and should not continue on this talk page. Said that.

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