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There is also a recipe, akin to the 1725 Queen Cake which should rightfully be called
Princess cake ;-) in "Queens delight" 1671, "To make a Cake the way of the Royal Princess, the Lady Elizabeth, daughter to King Charles the first" which is very much like a Queen cake. It too doesn't mention pans of
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seen a cupcake that was not frosted. It is so common in the US that I would think that rather than I having to prove it, the editor that denies it should have to prove their claim. I try to do some articles that are less likely to be a pain in the *** because I work on so many that are, and I'm sad
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I truly like the idea of this periodic table, however those don't appear to be cupcakes. It looks like a flat sheet-cake that has been cut into squares and frosted. I can see how cupcakes could be used for this idea though. Also, it says this is common, however I've never seen one, and I'm a science
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uses a tiny amount of frosting as "glue", but I'm not sure that you would describe it as a frosted cupcake. I realize that it's trendy to make fancy frosted cupcakes, but if you go look at older cookbooks, it's not unusual to find recipes that don't mention frosting or that explicitly list it as
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