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I'm not sure about request #3 — I did make some corrections to that sentence when I fixed the ref, but I'm uncertain about the appropriateness/relevance of the claim in the first place and feel that shortening it won't solve that fundamental problem and may also be a bit too whitewash-y... Hopefully
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I'm not at all comfortable with implementing #1 as-is. While changing of to representing seems relatively fine, I'm not sure if deleting private is reasonable, the second sentence feels a bit too much like an advertisement (although I may be overreacting and I'm not sure that "advertisement" is even
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companies. As of 2009, more than 200 million people in the United States received coverage from its member organizations, which administer benefits through employer-provided coverage, the individual insurance market, and public programs (e.g.
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dissatisfied or very dissatisfied (31 percent somewhat satisfied, 19 percent somewhat dissatisfied and 25 percent very dissatisfied)." Also, correct the spelling of "Politifact" in the second sentence.
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