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on Kate's character page, you should understand why I have my suspicions about your intentions. Even with your reasons for removing it contradicts the fact that it is still posted on Kate's character page, so why can't it be posted on Tony's character page too? Do you understand where I am coming from? Or is there something "unique" about Tony's character page that renders it only limited to events that actually happened on the show? Yes, it was not real, but I think it should still be included because I believe it simply just compounds the dynamics of Tony's relationship with Kate, it shows the potential of Kate/Tony's relationship had she lived, just like many fans have already suspected about their complex relationship. Heck, even some producers of the show, had over the years hinted that Kate and Tony would've ended up together had Kate lived.
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I am not sure that writing DiNozzo as one word is in fact correct. This family name should either be spelt as Di Nozzo or as
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I understand that, but please read my complaint carefully, Kate/Tony's alternate reality was explained in detail on Kate's character page. This is why I have been trying to include this piece of info on Tony's character page too...but seeing you constantly removing it, even when this info is allowed
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Hey, I was just wondering why it is stated that Tony speaks fluent
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This is a little bit late, so I don't know if it will matter, but I think there is one simple reason why it is included on Kate's page but not Tony's: Kate is dead. It makes more sense to include a mention of what might have happened if she lived, like how it includes the various times she is
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Do you understand all the reasons why I am so keen on adding this info on Tony's character page too? Seeing it posted on Kate's character page, of course I feel compelled to post it on Tony's page too...but seeing you constantly removing it is upsetting. And like I said, makes me feel rather
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I don't even know where to start editing this section. There's a lot of fan spec and a lot of the information seems unnecessary for the article. I don't want to actually delete large amounts of it, but the section in its entirety is basically available on this
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Hi again, and thanks for replying. I know about the redirect page, but I thought that perhaps "Anthony DiNozzo" should be the redirect, and "Tony DiNozzo" the title of the actual page. Abby's article uses the name she is known by rather than her full name.
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if no one wants to. No disrespect to the person who wrote it, it just doesn't read like a wikipedia article should. Btw, this might be true of the article as a whole, I was just reading through the relationships section in particular.
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