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Zealand and Rhodesia stamps and 'PD-Canada-stamp', for the one Canadian stamp. Am not sure why you claim the NZ license is inappropriate. As for descriptions, I indicated (for example) on the Canadian stamp: 'Canada postage stamp, King George V, 1925 issue, 50c. Am not sure why you feel this is sloppy, as you were not very clear about that either. I browsed through postal history into the respective countries and there doesn't always appear to be consistency in their uploads. For example on the image 'Stamp Newfoundland 1928 20c Colonial Building.jpg' the only category I saw there was 'Category:1928'. On another Canadian stamp 'Stamp Canada 1868 2c.jpg' the only category I saw was 'Canadian stamps'. On yet another Canadian stamp 'Stamp Canada 1954 5c QE2.jpg' I found no category listed, however most of the Canadian stamps do use 'Canadian stamps' for the category. If there is anything you can offer in the way of further help it would be most appreciated.
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The King George V section is only a few sentences long, and there may be a phrase that matches an other phrase found in the sources somewhere, though I don't see any. If you see a specific example of actual copyright'vio please bring it to my attention. btw.. I didn't create the George V section. I
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George V was born on June 3, 1865 and succeeded his father, Edward VII, to the
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text, all that was being done then was to get the technical jargon out of the message area in an attempt to keep the page from getting cluttered, knowing that all deletions are archived anyways. If this is yet another source of grief for you please except my apologies, once again. Now I am in the
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I added what I hope are the correct categories for the Canada stamp (Category:Canadian stamps) and the New
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some of the wording is the same. If my wording amounts to a copyright violation here at WP them I apologize for my quick entry and will reword the passage completely, that is, if it hasn't been deleted yet.
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