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another Syria. Many of these photos were taken in the 1980s and show scenes of daily life and images and cities not yet devastated by war. Other images show objects from the collection of the museum. A number of these photos were taken in and around Aleppo and may be of relevance here. Together, they form a valuable resource on Syria for the various Wikimedia projects. The upload consists of 352 photos in total and can be accessed
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but when the government do something its always attributed to the conflict in general and not to the government and that's so biased, not to forget the barrels attacks which left not only the old city but most of the city destroyed ... so I agree with you, this section should either be deleted or balanced..--
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Saladin had a brother called Turanshah, and a son called al-Mu‘aẓẓam Fakhr al-Din Abu Mansur Turanshah (b. July/August 1181 in Egypt). The wikilink in Aleppo article is taking us to Turanshah son of Ayub (who was a grandson of Saladin's brother al-Adel). The leader of Aleppo when the Mongols came was
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headquarters ,but one see what they want ... any way this syrian war topic is the one topic I try to avoid .. so i have no interest in editing it.. but something should be mentioned about the barrels attack that whipped out entire neighborhoods and its a much more serious crime than the Carlton hotel
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I think both of you may be conflating the FSA with rebels in general. It is true that rebels destroyed the Carlton Hotel, but no sources I've found implicated the FSA; it seems the Islamic Front was responsible. And again, most of the sources listed at the top of the section do not mention the FSA,
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The Old souq was burnt by the armed militants and not destroyed by the air strikes. However, the car bombs, looting and the destroy of many historic buildings are clearly attributed to al-Nusra Front, the FSA and the Islamic Front. Until July 2012, Aleppo has been the most safe city in Syria, until
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I think that most of my disputes on this website were about this point. Some people here just can't respect the efforts of others. They think of themselves as bosses. As long as those bosses continue to be around here, my contributions can only be minimal. I can't waste my time contributing things
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On the other hand, a great deal of the second half of this entry strongly suggests that there has been a significant restoration of the city functions after the total destruction of the city. Yes, there has been reconstruction but an encyclopedic article would offer some detail on the process and
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there is practically no mention of the crimes committed by the government. its clearly mentioned that the FSA blow the historic building but the editor failed to mention that it was the government air strikes that destroyed the old souq !!! its like when the FSA do a crime it immediately published
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WIKIPEDIA WAS MADE SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN SHARE INFORMATION FREELY, WITHOUT ANY BIAS AND PREJIDUCE BUT I THINK THAT IS STILL A DISTANT DREAM, THE WHOLE PAGE OF ALEPPO DOES NOT EVEN MENTION ABOUT THE TRADE BETWEEN INDIAN CITIES AND ALEPPO, SO MUCH SO NOT EVEN MENTION THE HINDU TEMPLE IN HISTORICAL
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For years, Syria has been the scene of a bloody civil war resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, and the destruction of entire cities. The recent image donation by the Nationaal Museum van Wereldculturen (the National Museum of World Cultures) in the Netherlands shows
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What I am missing in the article is the change of population in Aleppo. So, rather than just see a singular number, it would be a) better to see how the number changed from year to year, as well as b) how one came to these numbers. Recently I watched a CNN video where they claimed that Aleppo was
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Events such as bombing or airstrikes is happening too frequently to be included in this article. The section "Syrian Civil War" should only include events such as large-scale military operations or other events that may be recorded in the city's history. My opinion is that the paragraph of Russia
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Everybody who reads this must know that you don't really believe that the info is unverifiable or wrong. If your intent is good, you should add a reference to the paragraph. Instead of doing that, you try to force me to comply with what you say because you want to prove that you are a boss here.
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I asked you several times to have a discussion, please contribute and give a reason for putting Armenians link even after linking Armani to its article, also please refrain from adding Armenian to Mitanni, the consensus is that mitanni wasn't an Armenian state, the citation you are giving was
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the Fsa was inside the Souq .. they will not destroy it over their heads ... and why wasnt it mentioned that the regime also killed whomever activists they could reach ? why wasn't it mentioned that the criminal low life air force intelligence agency used to throw burned bodies outside its
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Timeliness tag added due to many of the cultural/social facts stated as if they are still currently true (eg. Aleppo is a quickly growing city, there's lots of construction currently happening...). With current destruction it's difficult to keep up with particulars, but clearly Aleppo has
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This article lists Aleppo with a population of 2.1 million, an area of 190km^2, and a density of 210 per sqkm. One of these numbers is massively off, and given the metro population is listed at 2.1 million as well, perhaps the actual city's population is unknown?
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What makes you a disruptive editor is your intent. Are you fighting with me because your are concerned about the quality of the article? Or are you citing Knowledge (XXG) rules in order to justify bossy behavior that has to do only with ego and arrogance?
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That is not in general true at all times (e. g. not even in 2016 when the above comment was made). You'd have to distinguish it by time/year, and attribute fighting groups accurately, in order to make such a generic yes/no statement.
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The article mentions a 'Turanshah' which redirects to the historical figure that died 10 years before the Mongol invasion under Hulagu Khan. No reference is given. Does anyone have an immediate remedy before I delete this passage?
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you can change the phrase FSA to the phrase opposition .. they are still responsible for many crimes yet not compared to the regime .. believe me both assad and the opposition are pieces of garbage, murderers , thieves and cruel
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I can't understand the audacity of those who do that. This website was supposed to be a collaborative work. How can a collaborative work succeed when people can unilaterally decide to erase the efforts of others?
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Third, if the paragraph were unreferenced, those people should have looked for the references and added them to the paragraph instead of fighting with others to delete info that is correct and exists in Knowledge
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First, if you see something unreferenced on Knowledge (XXG), you don't automatically delete it, especially when others want to keep it. You must open a discussion instead of trying to push what you want by force.
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the armed groups entered to the eastern neighborhoods and the Old city. And yes, they executed pro-Assad people as well as officers and members of internal security forces residing in their branches.--
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I added many references to this article before, but this time I am not doing it because I see that there are people here who are trying to be bosses instead of being helpful.
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Turanshah son of Saladin (a very old man by then). There is no wikipedia article about him, and one should be created, but the passage here should be calrified, not deleted.--
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I did object to things and wanted them to be deleted, but I don't think that I just decided to delete someone else's effort without consulting with anybody.
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80% Sunni population - I assume that number is pre-war. Any % for the current situation. With ISIS involved the number still there must be almost 100%.
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bombing a hospital should be removed, as bombing of hospitals is reported every month. Detailed news also makes the article biased.
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and the ISIS videos, no mention of kidnap and torture and recent beheading and evidence of past ISIS crimes here, why?
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Since I joined Knowledge (XXG), I don't think that I ever deleted something that was contributed by someone else.
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Firstly, I'm not a ""boss" here, only an editor like many others. Secondly, "collaborative work"" does not mean
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I both agree and dont agree with you, the crimes attributed to the FSA are true so its not biased against them,
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and it was considered a mere conclusion not a fact, so you cant call Mitanni an Armenian-Hurrian kingdom--
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As far as I know the pictures are outdated so they should be replaced by current ones.
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I see nothing in this about the fact that aleppo is currently literally burning.
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has impacted Aleppo very harsh. Shouldn't it be mentioned in the article?
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Aleppo is the most populous city in Syria, with a population of 2,132,100
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