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1881:- There was already a long discussion and consensus on name change of Allahabad to Prayagraj after being official for many years. Its natural the district name should be updated. Rather redundant now to keep the old name of an administrative district when the the place name has already been updated. –
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Prayagraj is the common and official name of this district. Govt. changed the name of
Allahabad to Prayagraj in 2018. In newspapers, television, and everywhere prayagraj name is so common now. Its right time to change the Knowledge title name as Prayagraj district. I hope you will change the name of
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The name of the district has been changed to
Prayagraj District and this should be reflected in the article. Whilst I can fully understand reluctance to change the name of the settlement of Allahabad / Prayagraj due to COMMONNAME, I don't see how this applies to a district which is not a settlement
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It would be appropriate to move this page from
Allahabad district to Prayagraj district to avoid such confusion. Currently readers are led to believe there is a political entity in India called "Allahabad District" when there is actually not so very misleading and confusing. My edits clearly state
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I propose that this page moves from "Allahabad district" an obsolete name for this country sub-division to "Prayagraj district" the correct legal name for this district. There is president on
Knowledge for this when political entities are renamed, the page titles are changed to reflect this for
1939:. So where is the evidence that "Prayagraj District" is the commonly-used English name for the district? Google scholar certainly does not support it. The official name was changed in 2018, and yet the old name, "Allahabad District" is more than twice as common as "Prayagraj District".
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example in the case of "Macedonia" becoming "North
Macedonia", the page was moved on the same day as that was the new common name for that political. If we don't reflect name changes, we might as well have articles entitled "Saigon", "Leopoldville", "Rhodesia", Leningrad, "Dahomy" etc.
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I don't understand that why such highly respected, learned and intellectual
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Allahabad district" - this mirrors the wording used on the article about the capital city of Kazakhstan where such wording was added on the day that the city was officially renamed (see
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I actually beg to differ on that. Changing the name to
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