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345: 1070:, the purpose of an infobox is "to summarize key facts in the article in which it appears". The film infobox guidelines state to use the billing block as a guideline, and this is because there has been certain edit warring about the cutoff point when it comes to a larger main cast. For films like this one, it is more straightforward to surmise the starring roles since there is a significant gap between McKellen/Renfro and the others in a story-wise and real-world context. 495: 468: 577: 505: 613: 394: 373: 1007: 984: 970: 939: 915: 888: 878: 853: 839: 825: 794: 780: 220: 275: 251: 285: 1252:. I am perplexed by this one. The more I look around, the more I see sources pointing in different directions on this question of settled v. dismissed. I see a bunch of sources on each side. I am not comfortable going either way. I am going to go ahead and edit the page to reflect that there are conflicting reports. 1038:
The cast section is laid out to provide a simple list of the actors and their roles for easy navigation. It is also laid out to reduce extraneous white space in the article that exists when it is just one column. In addition, the margins are lined up for easy reading. Cast lists in undeveloped film
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articles are single-column bulleted lists so they can be edited with ease, but this developed article is just about complete in terms of casting coverage. After the list of actors and their roles, the main ones are discussed in prose. This is in contrast to the "fat bullet" presentation before.
1203:, I referenced that book. It seems like the newer sources are better; it is possible that the book's authors got something wrong or got the wrong information at the time of writing. Go ahead and change it based on the newer sources. I would go with AP as the most reliable source. 1164:
The article states that the civil case arising out of the shower allegations was dismissed due to a lack of evidence. It cites a 2006 book entitled "Apt Pupil: The Hollywood Nazi-as-Monster Flick" by Picart and Frank for this proposition. I see another source
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Regarding the "Starring" field in the infobox, it is most appropriate to identify just McKellen and Renfro. We need to avoid listing names in the infobox indiscriminately per
1141:, especially the lawsuit involved. The "Lawsuit" section can be expanded with more details. Not sure about including Valdovinos's account. Others are welcome to comment. 147: 1384: 1374: 567: 79: 1339: 415: 1369: 557: 1334: 624: 450: 1389: 44: 533: 85: 1354: 440: 1399: 642: 1364: 758: 752: 1359: 30: 1174: 1307: 1394: 962: 518: 473: 1344: 1166: 630: 303: 99: 1349: 845: 104: 20: 1170: 1125: 74: 1329: 1182: 190: 1185:) that say that the case was settled. I do not have access to the 2006 book. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to proceed? 401: 378: 231: 168: 65: 135: 315: 307: 311: 298: 256: 786: 1287: 1235: 1212: 1150: 1079: 1048: 718: 704: 185: 811: 109: 739: 682: 735: 199: 129: 1102: 237: 1311: 1278:
to group the sources on each side. I would say that a legal source would trump all of them, if one exists.
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https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/millennium-films-backs-bryan-singer-allegations-60608012
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Was it the death camp survivor or Dussander who got arrested and his extradition to Israel arranged?
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https://www.indiewire.com/2017/12/bryan-singer-sexual-assault-rape-allegations-timeline-1201903868/
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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/bryan-singers-accusers-speak-out/580462/
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https://keprtv.com/news/entertainment/bryan-singer-keeps-directing-gig-following-allegations
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The article looks great! Nicely sourced, written and great info!
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Yes, you can mention both settled and dismissed. You can use
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