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286: 265: 1094:, a work which grossly mischaracterized several aspects of psychology in order to attempt to legitimize a link between race and intelligence which the mainstream of intelligence research had largely abandoned by that point. That same editor is the one you subsequently quote. The mainstream view of intelligence according to every reputable neurologist, psychologist, psychiatrist and cultural anthropologist I have ever spoken to or read the works of is that environmental factors play a role which overwhelms any hereditary role. 440: 598: 577: 493: 472: 719: 692: 608: 378: 354: 203: 234: 908: 503: 826:: Knowledge users are expected to behave reasonably, calmly, and courteously in their interactions with other users; to approach even difficult situations in a dignified fashion and with a constructive and collaborative outlook; and to avoid acting in a manner that brings the project into disrepute. Unseemly conduct, such as 806:. Accordingly, it is not the appropriate venue for advocacy or for advancing a specific point of view. While coverage of all significant points of view is a necessary part of balancing an article, striving to give exposure to minority viewpoints that are not significantly expressed in reliable secondary sources is not. 388: 1114:
Hmm, the quote pulled from the cited source says "The article itself became one of the most highly cited in the history of psychology, but many of the citations were rebuttals of Jensen's arguments or used the paper as an example of controversy." It sounds like we should use the word "rebuttals", but
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to me, though I couldn't find any compiled list of these. The term seems to be fairly obscure and mainly used in philosophy of language. Is there a standard Knowledge policy on dealing with success words when describing arguments back and forth on an issue without implicitly assuming who is right
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Im too lazy to correct it myself, but the page says "heritability measures the percentage of variation of a trait due to inheritance, within a population." This is not true. Heritability measures variance attributable to genes either within or between groups. The "criticism" here is that Jensen
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I also strongly recommend that any student interested in pursuing a career in intelligence research using neuroscience or other approaches read Jensen’s 1969 article. It is often cited, often misrepresented, and in my view, a classic work of psychology that still suggests important ideas and
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I agree, but it is safe to say that Jensen's views in the 1969 article were never debunked in that sense. Almost every point he put forward in the 1969 article is now mainstream opinion according to textbooks and expert surveys.
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Which seems to me like a NPOV violation as well as being false. Jensen's views are well accepted according to multiple surveys of experts. Almost everything he argued for in the 1969 paper is now the mainstream opinion (see e.g.
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Generally the policy is to fairly represent the reliable sources. I think it's OK to show that something has been "debunked" if we can show some kind of consensus of sources that says that. Otherwise I would avoid the word.
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Why wouldn't it be? Given the controversial nature of Jensen's research and conclusions, I don't think it is beyond the pale to juxtapose it with criticism from a prominent source. --
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The book contains 7 citations to Jensen's works, including the 1969 paper. Given the above, if not contested, I will revert to the NPOV wording again within a few days.
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I believe that the source for this assertion is not from a very NPOV source, I wouldn't say Jensen ranks among the most eminent psychologists of the 20th century.
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You might what to find a third party source for support. Otherwise, it appears that you've done nothing but state your own 'point of view' - at least twice.
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are expected to contribute neutrally instead of following their own agenda and, in particular, should take care to avoid creating the impression that their
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and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources. Primary sources are permitted if used carefully. All interpretive claims, analyses, or
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more NPOV wording (debunking is a success word, i.e. implies success of the action, whereas rebuttal or criticism does not)
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is an almost-walled-garden of racialist (read: racist) thought and it's editor is well-known as one of the signatories of
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is non-neutral, which could strongly suggest that their editing is not compatible with the goals of this project.
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supposedly derives emperical conclusions about between-group heritability FROM within group h2 values.
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If academics do not accept Jensen's work (and they don't), then the debunkings WERE successful.
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described in a 2010 Arbitration Committee case where the articulated principles included:
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not the word "debunking", if we're going to fairly represent the source. —
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The frontiers publications are fringe publications, not accepted science.
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though anonymous surveys find that it too is quite mainstream belief
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Is the criticism section from Gould supposed to be in this article?-
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