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Speaking as someone with experience in grappling, I tend to disagree. In my experience, the straight armbar is an elbow attack, when done properly it will hyperextend the elbow, and eventually tear tendons and break the joint. While there will be pressure on the forearm it is not the primary target,
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deleted an entire section (Juji-gatame), and renamed a section from flying armbar to cross armbreaker, perhaps I'm in the minority but I feel flying armbar is a much more common term for the technique, and I personally felt Juji-gatame was one of the most informative sections in the article, are
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I came here to say this. The picture is irrelevant and just shows a couple douchebag
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