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AIIB does not yet have evidence on the economic track-record of its investments. However, it helps to consider contextual evidence from the World Bank and the Asian
Development Bank (ADB)-financed projects in China to benchmark AIIB's future performance. A 2016 study from University of Oxford's SaĆÆd
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In view of the PFM status that requires knowing signature and ratification of the
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Chinese Banks, which have the worst global record for
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over half of the infrastructure investments in China made in the last three decades the costs are larger than the benefits they generate, which means the projects destroy economic value instead of generating it,ā comments Dr Atif Ansar, co-author of the study. ---
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only maybe a preparatory committee, or a provisional structure. Or does the MOU found the bank? Unfortunately the aiibank.org is slow/down, so I can't check the text of MOU or the draft articles....
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