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To make things more interesting, shotgun shell companies in the United States, in contrast to the UK system of S.G. cartridges (S. G. = small game not shot gun), uses the term aught, a deliberate variant of nought to define buck shot size. The most common is double-aught buck written 00 buck refers
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What's the reference for that? Admittedly, I'd say either 'zero' or 'nothing' (as in, 'they won 3 to nothing') are far more common, but I've certainly heard nil in the context of US sporting events at least as much as zip, or zilch. Though, in US English 'nil' seems to be more often used in context
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Point taken. I created the entry because the words often confuse me and thought others would appreciate some insight. It could be moved to an other article talking about style, or possibly expanded and renamed to include other pairs/group of words whose usage is often confused. What do you think?
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In 1900, that year was sometimes referred to as the double-nought year. That quickly became corrupted to be pronounced as ought. The year 1903 was often referred and pronounced as ought-three but written as ‘03. Another example is the M1903 US rifle that was referred to as the ought-three. See:
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Bowdine of the Beverly Hillbillies 1960s TV and the later movie version used the turn of the twentieth century term naught in a deliberate grammatical error of nought. FYI - Jethro was not the first on TV or the movies to use this deliberate error. It was used to define an older style,
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I do not think this is very clear. Particularly for anyone who is not an adult native
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The heading on the word aught claims that it's true definition means any or anything and that when it's used to describe zero or nothing that it is being incorrectly used. This seems like linguistic prescriptivism and incorrect in top of that, at least according to merriam:
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of prediction ("chances are nil"), finance (cost/assets), or results, particularly of a search ("It came up nil"). A Google News
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Buckshot size is designated actual diameter or (traditionally) by number, with smaller numbers being larger shot; sizes larger than "0" ("aught") are designated by multiple zeros. "00" ("double-aught") is the most commonly used size.
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Noughts and crosses was an early name for tic-tac-toe. This game is still referred to its earlier name in the UK. But
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