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and perpetuates a white, Eurocentric and Christocentric perspective. Nor is Aboriginal spirituality a "religion", which suggests a formal structure and consistency in teaching, which isn't seen in Aboriginal spirituality (most Aboriginal Nations appear to have varied interpretations and
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at the same time) here, and to use what it generally more acceptable language, regardless of the language used by certain sets of sources (I would personally question their scholarship if they're a recent source that uses "myth" to describe spirituality, but that's just me).
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I think it is outright racist and offensive to describe indigenous cultures and beliefs as Mythology just Because it does not fit into the mould of Abrahamic doctrines like Islam and Christianity. I request you to edit the sections from Mythology to beliefs and faith.
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From my readings of this article, it does talk about Aboriginal spirituality. Aboriginal Australian spirituality and mythology are synonymous in this instance.
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Sure. Overarchingly, I'm trying to combat the Eurocentrism and Christocentrism of the article, which is reflected in its choice of references. The
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as ways of being in world. It would seem more appropriate and respectful, perhaps, to create and write a separate article just on
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http://web.archive.org/web/20080316044231/http://www.samuseum.sa.gov.au:80/page/default.asp?site=2&page=TIN_Tribal&level=1
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are not appropriate terms to use when referring to Australian Aboriginal spirituality, like the Dreaming. A myth (
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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as an inappropriate term as it passes judgement about the validity of such beliefs. This is also backed up by
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