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you don't wear a bow tie. a suit, on the other hand, is more properly and completely referred to as a business suit. moreover, there is certainly a body of thought to the effect that a suit is the least appropriate occasion for a bow tie.formal wear? of course. sport coat? certainly. suit? maybe. also, is 'dickie bow' a british term? i have worn bow ties in the u.s and canada for nigh on 40 years, and have never heard the term used. not saying that invalidates it, mind, just curious.
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that there is no data to back up the perception. Keep in mind that it's possible that a trend may have been started or spurred on by prominent architects like Le Corbusier and Gropius that led to the perception. Citations from the Web or elsewhere should be able to prove that there is such a perception, any other statements we make should be backed up by sourcing or very small, very sure steps in logic.
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easier to read one list or the other? Is it better to have a long list with one name per line (as it is on the other page) or in a paragraph as it is here (I like one name per line). If you had one name per line, would that make this article annoyingly long at the bottom for someone who wants to get down to external links, for instance? I dunno, but the list needs to be in one place or the other.
22: 197:.... Careful manipulation of such a tie can produce effects like a black neck band, white bows, and a black center to the knot. Or the other way about. There are a total of 64 possible ways to twist the bits about with such a tie (some of the effects are more difficult and subtle than others, and I am not sure that all of them would be stable, as there would be many twistings inside the knot.) 1837: 95: 958:, I feel having such a list is quite pertinent, even useful. Showing how many prominent people became closely identified to the garnment certainly conveys its importance and mark upon human culture. It is also amusing. That is not a criteria for deletion on Knowledge. About the merge, I feel having a seperate list is probably the best option. With the material we have from both 2089: 829:(Please note that, contrary to some people's thinking, it isn't customary to create a page just because a redlink exists to it. There are a few editors who try to make red into blue wherever they can, and that's great, but we shouldn't let a redlink sway us in the slightest when deciding if a redlinked article would be encyclopaedic). 1194:, I hope i am not late to post my vote. Well here it is anyways, I dont see any problem with having a little bit of redundancy on both articles. In my opinion i am in favor to replace the current list for a short paragraph which mention some notable people known for their use of Bowtie and let the article ( 2119:
Even though this page displays Colonel Sanders wearing a "string tie," it seems this page doesn't cover that type at all. It's apparently also referred to as a "string bowtie", a "colonel bowtie", and a "Western bowtie." No, I don't know enough about the subject to add in information about it, I just
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Yes, I just finished reading the article and my impression was that it was poorly referenced and suffered from worldview problems throughout. For example, the bit about pediatricians did not ring true to me. I have lived in three Asian countries, and I have never seen a pediatrician wearing a bowtie.
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So, I shall boldly edit the article - i had removed the architect reference entirely, but I'll put it back in as a popular idea/meme. Hope that satisfies. And while i'm at it, i'll purge the reference to it giving rise to the four in hand; if that's debated, and people think they may have both come
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I'd say that the bowtie does warrant its own page, as there is/could be a lot of information on this page (for instance, about the differing shapes available) which someone would not be interested in if they were attempting to learn about neckties. There are overlaps, but the bow tie is sufficiently
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Many bow ties have a different pattern or color scheme on each side. The top method features the outer side (away from the neck) and the bottom features the inner (touching the neck). My grandfather distinguished between the two styles as "left handed" and "right handed" based on which hand is used
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i have removed the statement that suggests that bowties are primarily an item of formal wear. it simply isn't so. moreover, a suit is not formal attire, a term which has a fairly specific meaning, including evening wear and such things as morning coats, strollers, etc., although with the latter two,
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Oh and by the way the "citation needed" tags do not necessarily mean that the statements are wrong, it simply means that they are not (yet) backed up by reliable sources; it's a request to find and insert these sources. Remember that statements that are not substantiated by reliable sources will be
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Doesn't the list of people "known for" their bow ties just read like a big list of everyone who's ever worn one, rather than people for whom it is a recognizable sartorial marker? Tucker Carlson: known for bow ties (and, if I may be a bit NPOV, for being a dick). Alfred Kinsey: just a guy who wore
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Your use of the term "meme" is misleading. You contrast it with verifiable fact, suggesting that you think a meme cannot be a "fact". Epistemological problems with the acquisition of "truth" aside, a meme is merely a discrete unit of cultural information, the seed of a behavior. It can be true or
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It's not an official rule, so it depends on many things. For example, the regiment in question (cavalry regiments tend to be far more extravagant and flambouyant than, for example, REME), the seniority of the perpetrator (a young subbie with a clip-on at his first dinner night has fucked up far less
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I think this should be merged into necktee. Also I think "Towards the end of the 19th century the free ends of the bowtie grew longer, and the necktie was born, and the bowtie slowly went out of fashion." is incorrect. The bowtie wasn't the precursor to the modern tie as this sentence suggests. Both
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as i've pointed out previously in reverting calls for citation, pretty much every other sentence in this article could be seen as needing citation. this last guy was particularly annoying, since he's one of those who edits without actually READING what he's editing.why pediatricians? if you'd read
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is duplicative of sections on the same subject at the bottom of this article. Please take a look at each and suggest here which you prefer: A list on that separate page or a list here. I think it's ridiculous to have both lists, but I'm neutral as to whether they should be on a separate page. Is it
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The references are kinda strange. The page that's supposed to be an example of the cravat slowly becoming the bow tie doesnt really give any of that information, it's just a shop with cravats and bow ties etc. The other references about architects are a bit strange too, I dont see them to be of any
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There's a magician's routine (Carl Ballentine?) wherein a bow tie is repeatedly re-tied by the magician, trying to get the tie to appear to be all black or all white (the tie is black on the inside and white on the outside.) He ties it, the assistant points out it's wrong. Again and again and again
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I am a Prof and a bow-wearer of long standing, and came here to have a look at what this fine lot of stylish editors had pulled together. I have made only one edit, and ask it checked—clarification of the intended contrast between a return to style of real bt's, versus negative perceptions of the
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I like the photo gallery as well. I am not sure how many images will be uploaded with "famous" people sporting a bow tie, but for now, it seems at least the photo gallery can stay. The rest of the names can be merged perhaps into the list article. I doubt a category system will be of any use here,
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Some bow ties have different fabrics on each end, and the wearer chooses which is in front. (Some bow ties have the left and right hand ends buttoned together; if the wearer has several such ties, he can mix them up intentionally.) Some have different sized ends, where (usually) the smaller end is
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On the larger subject of stereotypes, someone can state that there is a perception that bow ties are used by a lot of architects, and if that perception exists, it can be right or wrong, but as long as someone is saying "all architects wear them" it's not a stereotype. It's even fair to point out
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of a bowtie with a normal dress shirt. The photo of a tie on a naked neck that was previously up seems to have been replaced by another picture of a famous bowtie wearer. Perhaps the tie itself should be featured again at the top (since there's a gallery of other people further down on the page
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As far as the name of that article, I'm going to move (copy, really) your paragraph over there and continue the discussion on that page, since we're talking about the name of that article and I think it will be more natural for interested editors to come upon it over there. I'm grateful for your
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it here, to a manageable number of persons and fictional characters. (I.e., fewer than are on this page now.) A bare-page list of people noted for wearing bow-ties is better-suited to being a category. My reservation is that if there's any sort of meaningful heirarchy beyond people and fictional
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In the award-winning architects, most pictured have open shirts or neckties - the only bow tie I saw was at a black tie event. To quote the article about the collector: "Dr Derham Groves, 47, of West Brunswick, is an architect. This should come as no surprise. Everyone knows architects love bow
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I don't think casting "List of bow tie wearers" as a "main article" for the subject of stereotypes is fair. It's reasonable, given the contents of that section and the current contents of the List article that there be a link, and a link at this spot isn't a bad idea, as long as there is a link
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I'd agree - And I think it needs to be smaller, so the first policy should be - no redlinked names. People sometimes find it amusing to put their name in amongst the valid members of lists, and it can be a difficult type of vandalism to deal with. This is pretty widely accepted as a name list
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I've sent this message to the four editors who suggested merging the list onto the Bow tie article. I want a resolution to avoid the repetition between these two pages. I think there's limited interest in the subject anyway, so perhaps what I say in my message will clear it
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How about this for an argument - if necktie was entitled simply "tie (clothing)", then it'd be appropriate to merge. But since it's not, the title "necktie" wouldn't fit info on bowties very well, since many people think of those as the four in hand kind.
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I must differ here. The bow tie is NOT a type of uniform for "male strippers" but is the exclusive trade dress for CHIPPENDALES. In fact, the cuffs and bow tie is a registered trademark of CHIPPENDALES. See U.S. Trademark Registration No. 2694613.
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I've moved these red non-linked names to the talk page to make it easy once there are at least stub articles to put them back on the page. I don't have the time to determine if they are notable persons, but if someone is so interested they are here:
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Disagree about merging. I think the topics are separate enough to be different articles. BTW, does anybody know more about the different ways how to tie a bowtie? I checked the web and found two different methods, which i created graphs for. --
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pre-tied, etc. Also, please note that the bt vs b_t matter is still alive and well (because of Knowledge spell correction?!)—see, in that same paragraph, "opinions of bow tie wearers are mixed. He observed that bowties…" With regard, LeProf
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they are not correctly called 'batwing', but simply 'bat'. this comes from the shape resembling a cricket bat, or actually a pair of cricket bats,handle end to handle end. if you can't imagine a cricket bat, think of a fraternity paddle. same
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ties"; this suggests to me that this is some sort of meme, or folk-lore, but I'm unable to back it up. And on the ArcSoc page, they provide suggestions, links to other info, but no hard evidence. It does seem to be a quite widely held idea!
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My idea of polling people on what they want with the bow-tie articles hasn't exactly worked perfectly. I don't see much of a consensus for moving the list to one page or the other, so I'm going to try this: I'll cut down the list on the
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available. But I must point out that, in the interests of NPOV, we do cover the ready-tied bow tie. Yes, I think it's a fake too, but as far as i can see, quite a few people would think of one of those if asked to picture a bow tie.
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there are also 'batwing' brasses, drawer pulls for queen anne and chippendale furniture. when my son was 8, i happened to mention these in conversation with his mother. typical 8 year old boy, he was very anxious to see the bat
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Knowledge has other-language editions. It is natural that the English language encyclopedia primarily deal with English and American fashion conventions and stereotypes if not explicitly labelled 'world' or 'Continental'.
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As per MPS's suggestion, if we do it the way he suggests, the list here could be considered a summary of the other list. I've done that with some municipality pages and people pages that have been calved off from them
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Either way, it should probably be replaced. The article talks about how it's usually worn with formal attire, and then the illustration has a bowtie on a bare neck, which doesn't match the article's description.
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Done. I've always wondered why they were called "batwing", as it's not obvious. Perhaps there was an earlier version, now lost, that was of constant width, but that still doesn't make these look like batwings.
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I suspect that purchasing a proper bow tie and learning how to tie it would be a lot cheaper. Plus, single or not, the ladies will want to adjust it. The faux ties they ignore, except to quietly disapprove.
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article could then be renamed and reworked as a article to convey (with an exhaustive list of cited examples) evidence that pundits have used to bolster theories of stereotypes of bow tie weareres. I will
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page sometime late this week unless I hear a strong objection from those, like you, who have suggested otherwise. I think (hope) that's an acceptable resolution. Feel free to speak up if I'm all wet.
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I think we need a policy on external links, as many of them on Knowledge seem to be duplicating the same info, in order to increase their Google PageRank if nothing else. So, I've begun by deleting
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How much champagne would someone who wears a clip-on bow tie in the mess halls have to buy if found out? $ 100 worth? $ 500 worth? Or maybe $ 2000 worth? (I want the answer to this question to be in
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article... they are thinking of renaming it. Based on this AFD and a review of the original article here, I had the idea that perhaps that the bow tie article could have a separate section about
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I've added a picture of a pretied bow tie. It's a particularly vintage, velvety one, which doesn't do the pretied type as a whole any favours, but maybe some people like that sort of thing. --
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Obcene? I am no stripper ;-). Hey, what do I care? I often do wikiwork without shirt, and I did this in less than 5 mins. :-). But what can I say if you take a better picture? Go ahead.
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I wear bow ties with suits, but not bolo ties (which I will wear with a sport coat.) 'Dickie Bow' I have not heard, either, or not frequently enough that it's made an impression on me.
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I would agree. I'm a medical student, but that hasn't stopped me abandoning the necktie. So I've looked around for one, and through various searches, i only found these to be of use:
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Of course, Google isn't the best indicator, but i'm in favour of "bow tie" - it's a type of tie, so it should be two separate words, or possibly hyphenated, but not one word. --
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a bow tie. Bill Nye: known for it. Stan Laurel: just a guy with a bow tie (even if Hardy did wear a necktie, I'd say there are other things Laurel is known for). Etc.
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elsewhere in the article (there is, at "See also"; although I think I would prefer that eventually the link be put in a summary list of the most famous bow tie wearers).
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There is not enough information on this page to warrant an entire article yet, it is mostly illustrations and most of the other information is a summary of what is on
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The article can probably carry the list for now, but if it were to get much longer, then perhaps it should split off. I like the photo gallery on the article page.
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I've tidied the page a lot, moving the images around so that the sections and contents box aren't so badly placed. It now looks more respectable, i think. --
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of champagne varies in the British Army depending on whether one is in Britain or Germany, as the tax situation means alcohol is far cheaper in the latter.
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Other than that, perhaps a marked shortening of the list without images, and removal of faces from the table if "wears a bow tie" wouldn't appear on a
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Yes, this is just silly. All of these assertions are not cited from reliable sources. They must be cited, or they will be removed. In particular:
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Is James Bond famous for bow ties apart from tuxedos? Also, I question the smurfs being bow tie wearers, though I never really watched the show.
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seems to ask for this. The bow shown on bare skin seems somewhat obscene as this is often portrayed as a part of the "uniform" of male strippers.
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Can anyone tell me why a bow tie is known as a dicky bow? I'm sure there's a perfectly obvious reason, but have no idea what it is!!! Thanks
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distinct - in society as well as in its knot. And the main thing is, people may wish to search directly for information on the bowtie. --
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shirts at hand, but I could use folded collar and maybe some picture of an untied one. Perhaps even provide an original tying diagram. --
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Who says that bow ties are associated with politicians? (How many politicians nowadays wear bow ties?) Please provide reliable sources.
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Ah. Makes much more sense. Now I wonder where the ...wing was added? There are batwing sails, but those don't look like the bow ties.
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Who says that bow ties are associated with architects? Who says this? I have never heard of this. Please provide reliable sources.
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Would someone mind assigning the classifications within the photo caption to a specific tie (with left/right associations)? Thanx.
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Which is more correct? My vote is for "bow tie". To my eye, the word "bowtie" would be pronounced 'boaty'. Just looks wrong to me.
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as per MPS's idea. I like the gallery a lot, and that could be coupled with a short list on the bow tie page, and then a link to
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Saw one at Sak's 5th Ave the other day. Comes in two separate parts, a "tie" and a "band". The tie part is like this: |: -->
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Shouldn't Tucker Carleson be under the famous bow tie people? I would add him myself but I don't know how to do pics....
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These are both important as separate sections, IMO. The links to pages with directions on way to tie a bow are useful.
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There's no point in having the list repeated in both locations, and it has the potential for becoming too bulky for
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A citation for this is needed. I'm a bow tie wearer-and an architectural historian and never heard of this before.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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I should be grateful if some contributor with more authority than my poor self could add some reference to the
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There I was with this imagined image of you completely naked except for the tie. You've shattered my daydream.
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for instance. I think it's definitely better to have a longish list somewhere, for reasons I went into on the
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now). At any rate, I request that someone else put the picture on the page itself if it seems appropriate.
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I suspect this is some kind of U.S. or British stereotype. And yes, this stereotype needs to be referenced.
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don't we need to at least mention that only a total philistine would wear either of the above. really! ;-)
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than the adjutant doing same) and the mood and personality of those present at the time. In addition, the
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in the absence of contradiction (obviously, this isn't a particularly popular page), and in the spirit of
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characters that could be applied, it should go to a separate page and be allowed to expand ad infinitum.
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Oh really? A necktie is also a type of tie, but that is "necktie" rather than "neck tie" or "neck-tie".
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until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
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since if an image is available, it will show the corresponding person with his bow tie already :-).
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false, its success turns on its adaptability. I think "stereotype" is the word you're looking for.
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The clincher for me, a page with photos of past winners of an architects' award, going back to 1979
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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A wild guess is that a starched shirtfront, or dickey, is worn with a bow tie in formal dress.
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template should not be removed simply because a plausible explanation has been added. I have
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Besides, the picture is of a fake pre-tied effort. Get rid of it (the picture and the tie).
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unfortunately, in the u.s. clip-ons and bandeds are probably in the majority. aarrrggghhh!
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Is it just me or do the two tying diagrams actually shew the same way of tying a bow tie?
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Who says that bow ties are associated with attorneys? Please provide reliable sources.
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Done. He's now resting comfortably between Earl Blumenauer and Winston Churchill. --
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An article about a bow tie collector, of clip-ons, who happens to be an architect
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Who says that bow ties are associated with pediatricians? The question is not "
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Eric's penguin, that looks a great photo. Mine is the one illustrating the
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meant to be the bow in front; some of these are different colors as well.
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importance to the article. But the last point is just my opinion --
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agreed. only time bond ever wore a bow tie was with formalwear.
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directly from the cravat, Wiki shouldn't display it. --
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