Talk:Bohemian Grove - Knowledge (XXG)

762:. The text was poorly transcribed by Alex Jones in his video. He mishears "fairy unguents" as "carrion", probably because his microphone rustled at the wrong time and because the distance from the ceremony. 'Fairy un-' rhymes with "carrion"... and the last syllable of '-guents' was pronounced softly at that performance, masked by the shitty microphone situation. The correct text changes very slightly from year to year; it appears each year in historic Bohemian club publications such as: 2329:"However, audio, video, and multimedia materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or archived by a reputable party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable sources. Like text sources, media sources must be produced by a reliable third party and be properly cited. Additionally, an archived copy of the media must exist. It is convenient, but by no means necessary, for the archived copy to be accessible via the Internet." 507: 626: 400: 306: 279: 1860:

The film also included footage of the protest organized by the Bohemian Grove Action Network that took place outside of the Grove on Bohemian Highway where it seemed a majority engaged in an "occult counter-ritual" known as the Resurrection of Care, supposedly a counter-ritual against the Cremation of Care. In 2012, Chris Jones released more of his footage direct to YouTube entitled, "Deeper Inside Bohemian Grove." (

461: 436: 316: 1572:, with this justification: "An elite San Francisco-based club whose membership interlinks with the Bohemian Club and Grove." I think this is nonsensical. Yes, some of the members of the P-U are Bohemians and some Bohemians also belong to the P-U, but it's nowhere near a majority of either, and many Bohemians also belong to other "elite San Francisco-based clubs" such as the 596: 388: 248: 1049:. With Brittan being a fairly new member having little clout at that time, I doubt he was able to push for the owl as mascot based on his San Carlos building project. Brittan is never mentioned in Bohemian Club history documents as having anything to do with the owl mascot, nor is he mentioned as offering a San Carlos alternative location for the Grove encampment. 219: 2141:"multiple IP" addresses, and accept the 31-hour block. However, the last block on any IP address with which I had any influence in editing was way back on "04:27, 27 February 2017" according to the block logs. Even that is over two days (48 hours) ago, so I waited the "extra time" to demonstrate good faith. (I'm not perfect, ok, but I have good faith.) 1191:

like, a right the club has invoked when trying to fight government anti-sex discrimination efforts and one curtailed only when it comes to a few popular redwoods just outside the Dining Circle. Tacked to one of these haplessly postprandial trees is a sign conveying the fairy-dust mixture of boyishness and courtliness that envelops the encampment

2205:

reasonable attempt at working out their disputes before seeking help from others. If you are able to come to a consensus or have your questions answered through discussion with other editors, then there is no need to start an RfC," and the other, 3rd-opinion page, one says: "Before making a request here, be sure that the issue has been

1729:

founded by BC members in good standing, I won't argue for or against its inclusion. The P-U, however, is entirely a coincidental connection; it's simply one of a dozen other exclusive clubs located in San Francisco, any one or more of which could just as logically be listed. Consequently, I've removed it from the list.

1700:" So is the Town & Country. So is the SF Golf Club. So are a dozen other "local" and "exclusive" clubs. But they aren't listed here; the P-U is. And it's worth pointing out that the P-U and BC do not have reciprocity with each other, which further refutes the notion of their memberships "interlinking". Try again. 1414:

many people have done it, the word makes these attempts seem more arduous than they must actually have been.) Also, I'm not sure where to move it to, but the Teddy Bear's Picnic/Harry Shearer film note does not make sense where it is... it's a parody, not an infiltration. Thoughts on what to do about this?

1162:. Re: "homosexual undertones": I'm just reading the Weiss article for the first time and he does say in his description of the Cremation of Care ( I'll make up an acronym COC ) that "Vaguely homosexual undertones suffused this spectacle, as they do much of ritualized life in the Grove". I don't really think 2168:

I will add: My first friend also alleged all kinds of weird things at the Bohemian Grove, such as lynchings of African Americans (he is Black, but I am not), and I found credible sources to add it, and was thinking of accepting his argument that this was a significant portion of American History. But

2164:

But anyhow, we all make mistakes. (I admitted to a mistake above, and I make many mistakes, so I am not perfect.) So, I'm posting a request for comment here, asking what is wrong with the 4 sources I cited. If I was wrong, why was this not reverted in the Wikiquote page, which basically said the same

1949:

I added the attribution in the first place because this article (still) says: 'The Club motto is "Weaving Spiders Come Not Here," which implies that outside concerns and business deals are to be left outside.' ...It sounded to me like the person interpreting the motto didn't understand its meaning in

1859:

Jones' follow-up film, The Order of Death, documents events in July of 2005 wherein an employee, Chris Jones (no relation), smuggled out videotape of the Owl Shrine, even venturing inside the hollow statue. He also got footage of effigies, the lakeside, and select camps; as well as a membership list.

1687:

with the Bohemian Club and Grove". This is simply not true, nor has the editor who added it made anything like a case for it being true. Without that claim being substantiated, there's no more reason to have the P-U listed in the "see also" section than to have the St. Francis or any other local club

1331:

Why is there a quote section on this page? I feel like I'm reading IMDB. If these quotes are so important, why are they not integrated into the text in general? Thoughts on removing this? (And for the record, I still think they should be nixed even though they are all negative, anti-conspiracy theory

1216:

film crew in which the on-air talent and two crew persons were turned away from the main entrance and then the two crew persons were arrested trespassing from the river, with Meltzer escaping security. It's an unbelievably lame story, not worthy of the name "journalism", but the History Channel aired

1139:

If peeing on trees is what you think is important, explain why. Weiss says it is "the most gloried-in" part of hanging out at the camp—the freedom to piss anywhere, or not quite anywhere, as he explains later in the article. The club men and their guests 'glory' in the activity, but so do hunters and

996:

This is a particular area of interest for me and I have done some research on the topic as my family and I live in one of the original retreats for the bohemian club. The building was built by Nathaniel J. Brittan and was used to entertain his fellow mates in the 1870's. Much of this information is

2233:

It seems appropriate for us to try and talk it out among ourselves before bothering outsiders, and spending valuable time & focus resources. So, I'll wait, and assume that 3 of my 4 sources were valid, or, in worst case scenario, I simply copy what was done on Wikiquote, here, as it is OK there.

2140:

As I said, I was wrongly accused of using multiple IP addresses, and the proxy was permissible for the exceptions mentioned above, but I will admit that this is a "gray" area, and just to be fair and demonstrate "Knowledge (XXG) Good Faith," a chief guideline, here, I'll pretend that I was guilty of

1984:

article while this article should carry only those facts pertaining to the Grove, with just enough club context to provide understanding. The Shakespeare context is not needed here, as there is nothing about a men's gathering among redwood trees which compares to a charm spoken by fairies to protect

1543:

bohemians in the club from the beginning -- artists, poets and so forth. I wouldn't say that poverty is a requirement for bohemianism; I could cite many bohemians who were born with, or even made their own money. But as to the BC: surely Joaquin Miller, Bret Harte, Henry George, Ambrose Bierce and

1099:

sexual club members go outside the Grove and pay hookers for sex, female prostitutes they meet at the nearby Northwood Golf Club lounge and elsewhere. Most homo- and hetero- Grovers do not hunt for sex while they hang out at the camp, as far as I can tell. Club members who seek sex while they are at

1094:

Nobody alleges homosexual 'undertones', they allege homosexual activity. There are indeed homosexual men in the Bohemian Club, a few, just as there are homosexual men who have not joined the club. The way I read the story, some of the ones in the club have sex at the Bohemian Grove, which allows for

2172:

I may post this question on an actual "request for comment" page, but anyhow, I'm asking for feedback on the talk page before I proceed any further, assuming that this is the proper protocol for seeking to make an edit. Please tell me what I or my second friend did that was inappropriate, and also,

1462:

Surely this deserves a mention. Bohemians are those who choose poverty and outsider status for the sake of art and integrity to one's non-materialistic ideals. The name of this group is either radically redifining what bohemianism is to incorporate major portions of its antethesis, or is thoroughly

1190:

you come down a trail in the woods and hear piano music from amid a group of tents and then round a bend to see a man with a beer in one hand and his penis in the other, urinating into the bushes. This is the most gloried-in ritual of the encampment, the freedom of powerful men to pee wherever they

1036:

on February 3, 1874, two years after its founding in April 1872, so he cannot be a founding member. Second, Brittan's offer to host the club at his house could never have been seriously considered by the club, since they were looking for much larger acreage—a couple of thousand acres. I believe you

900:

I like the photo, and I think it should be in the article. However, you uploaded it without proper sourcing, just like you uploaded two other photos to Commons. I believe you got it from an internet site, but for the Commons, you will have to find the original source of the photo, and name it. Once

2169:

I decided against because, while lynchings of ANYONE are horribly evil, nonetheless, this was not newsworthy for the 'grove', since lynchings (and worse) occurred all around the country (especially in the South). But, if any other editor wants to add that (with documented sources), I'm ok with it.

1283:

quick follow-up, I went ahead and removed Bilderberg, S1, Trilateral Commission, and World Economic Forum b/c their inclusion really felt like 'I think this means something...' conspiracy theory nonsense. They are unmentioned anywhere else in the article, probably b/c if they were it would rely on

992:

I believe the owl statue alluded to the old proposed site for the bohemians club. The project was called the Owel's Nest and was to be constructed in what is current day San Carlos, Californai. However, due to local disapproval, the project was abandon and the current site of Bohemian grove was

2364:

OK, so the rules (and common sense) say the Nazi-link is out, and Wikiquote is out too, but the 2 videos (and possibly things cited by Wikiquote) are in. Besides, I know it's hard to find the archives copy on the link provided by Wikiquote, but: "...an archived copy of the media must exist. It is

2043:

Editor claims not reliable sources: Of the 4 sources cites, 2 were the President in his own voice (reliable). One was wikiquote (which we hope is reliable, since it is a part of Knowledge (XXG)). The 4th source might or might not be reliable, but that is moot, as we see clear bullying to suppress

1413:

This section is way too long and features unnecessary summaries of multiple Alex Jones films. I think it could be pruned with more concise references to the notable Spy infiltration and the less important conspiracy theorist attempts. (Moreover, is there not a better term than infiltration? If so

2252:

Neo-Nazi websites (like "The Daily Stormer") are, obviously, not reliable sources. It's astonishing that this needs to be explained to you. If you have the time and energy to write a huge wall of text, you should have the time and energy to read our policies and guidelines. Also, wikis and other

1100:

the Grove are in the minority. The difference between the two groups of sex-seeking clubbers is that one group must go outside the camp to find women, and the other group may go outside to find men, or may not, by choice. This is not big news, in my mind. I don't think it is a major issue of the

2120:

I complained to a friend, and as he owed me a favor, I was able to convince him to speak to this point. While "sockpupptet" behavior (me using a 2nd IP) is against the rules, I did not do this. However, getting another person speak for you is also sometimes against the rules. My friend's IP was

1728:

Arguments can be made for the other 3 clubs being listed, as they all have verifiable, formal connections to the BC. The Belizean Grove was explicitly patterned upon the BC, and the Family was formed by members kicked out of the BC. Rancheros Visitadores is a bit more tenuous, but since it was

2204:

as possible places to resolve disputes, but one of them, RfC, says: "Before using the RfC process to get opinions from outside editors, it's often faster and more effective to thoroughly discuss the matter with any other parties on the related talk page. Editors are normally expected to make a

2160:

blocked! I, in turn, asked for help from a third person, and the same thing happened to him, and he left, probably not to return any time soon, due to the difficulty and apparent mistreatment. (Apparent, as I am expressing an opinion that I think he was mistreated by failure to apply the proxy

2155:

BACK STORY: I was called on the phone by a friend, claiming the government was covering up "Bohemian Grove" mischief, and he gave me one example, with Nixon claiming some deviant behavior. I Googled it, but found it was missing from Knowledge (XXG), and he claimed Knowledge (XXG) was in on the

1656:

The "See also" area is for articles on related subjects that have not been mentioned in the article body. Certainly the Pacific-Union Club and the St. Francis Yacht Club are also San Francisco-based exclusive clubs, as is the Family Club. Other clubs that are known for exclusivity and are also

1494:

today.) A few years later in San Francisco, some newspapermen who were starting a new men's club settled upon the already familiar term "bohemian". Later Bo Clubbers were wealthy men-about-town rather than ink-stained newsies, so the club's use of the term "bohemian" drifted away from previous

2345:

Moreover, Youtube gets the thumbs up here: "There is no blanket ban on linking to user-submitted video sites through external links or when citing sources. However, such links must abide by various policies and guidelines. Links should be carefully and individually evaluated for inclusion."

1387:

In July 2024, a YouTube user named "Dancer" claiming to have infiltrated Bohemian Grove released high-definition video footage purportedly showing the interior of the campgrounds. The authenticity and significance of this footage have not been independently verified by reliable sources.

974:

I don't see why your image would not be free use. Looks okay to me, except that the nearby ferns are speeding by and blurry, and your Hawaiian shirt shows in the car's rear view mirror. The Owl is not very well featured but its placement is. Maybe I'll crop the photo to trim the mirror.

1453:

I've re-written the infiltration section and moved it to a new section regarding security overall. I removed parts which seemed biased and attempted to present only news-worthy infiltration. I did my best to keep a neutral point of view, but I am open to any criticism of my efforts. ()

2311:

But of the two audio tapes of The President, in his own voice? What is wrong with them? That may look like "original research," but it is not: It's not trying to "argue" for some conclusion, but rather reports a fact, and is, itself, a fact. And, even if both of those videos are

2438:(Chicago Sun-Times, 24 Feb 2009, "Nixon's views on gays come as no surprise: Throws around slurs liberally in recording with his top aide" This agrees with VOX, so I take that date, and reject the Wikiquote date. Maybe I fix Wikiquote's date later? CNN says May 13, 1971 2272:(Technically, this source could still be used: "However, reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective. Sometimes non-neutral sources are the best possible sources for supporting information about the different viewpoints held on a subject." 1688:

listed there. It's irrelevant to the article. Again: the onus is upon those who add things to justify their addition, not upon me (or any other skeptical editor) to suggest that they be removed for irrelevancy or lack of objective sources. Furthermore, you wrote "

2156:

alleged coverup. So, I told him that I felt he was wrong, but just to prove him wrong, I offered to add it to the article. (He does not know how to use Knowledge (XXG), and this was not his idea: All he did was complain.) I attempted to edit it and got reverted

1822:

So what do you want to say in this article about Bill Clinton possibly attending? You would have a tough time saying which year it was since the source gives no details. You could not say whose guest he was nor whether he stopped in for a few hours or for a few

2350:

There is a note on copyright, but I think the president's old tapes are, by now, in the public domain. (Plus, you can't copyright the president's governmental tapes, as the government is owned by the people. Not like, say, a private news agency, ABC, NBC, CBS,

2084:

A few days ago, I made some edits to this article, after having discussed it in 'Talk' here, and seeing no objections, I made the edit (or series of edits, as there were typos, etc., but I'll count them as one edit for simplicity). My edit was "reverted" by

1120:

Speaking of alleged homosexual activity, I am giving notice of intent to post some links quoting former Pres. Richard Nixon on that point, and linking to audio of him in his own words. There seems to be some support for it, so I'll make the edit here

1617:

it should stay, not just declare it to be so. The fact is that the majority of P-U Club members live in the SF area. The majority of Bohemians do not. There are are no formal ties between the Bohemian and P-U Clubs. Indeed, there aren't even any

539:, a collaborative effort to improve Knowledge (XXG)'s coverage of significant alternative views in every field, from the sciences to the humanities. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the 2369:

So, I will remove the 2 bad links you identified, use the 2 good ones I kept, and look at both the stuff Wikiquote cites, as well as scour the Internet for more reliable (and less controversial) sources. Does this sound good? Thanks for

2136:

As I said, I edited under 96.59.162.50 (on Feb 24, 2017) and under 96.59.131.65 (on Feb 26, 2017). My friend edited under 47.192.18.128 (on Feb 27, 2017). And, it appears today, that I'm editing under 96.59.138.30 today (01 Mar, 2017).

1992:. The club motto implies that outside concerns and business deals are to be left outside. When gathered in groups, Bohemians usually adhere to the injunction, though discussion of business often occurs between pairs of members. 2412:

VOX says it is on: "But consider this from May 13, 1971," not the June date cited in Wikiquote. Time to check sources further before adding anything: "The Confessions of @dick_nixon," by Justin Sherin on October 8, 2015, VOX

789:. "On the Occasion of the Sixty-seventh Consecutive Performance of the Cremation of Care, the Ritual Now in Use is Published by the Club for Its Members with the Introductory Review of the Evolution of the Ceremonial." 1947 859:. The text should be uploaded to its own new webpage at Wikisource. That venue is where full transcriptions are to be hosted. Naturally, if you put the Jones version up, I'll follow it with one or more official versions. 901:

you do that, you will likely find that the source is not old enough to make the photo public domain because of age. One alternative is to upload the photo just on the English-language Knowledge (XXG), and to write up a

2129:, he explained that it was not against the rules for him to be my "proxy" or "spokesperson" if the edit was productive, verifiable, and there were independent reasons (which there were: he felt I was mistreated). But 2144:

Moving on, assuming I want to edit in good faith, I'm not sure what I should do differently now (e.g., what did I, or my friend, do wrong last time?). Perhaps we were hasty to use various "report" or "notice" boards

413: 289: 674:

Hey, someone needs to fix the line about how Alex Jones "successfully made it out with documented evidence". Obviously written from a conspiracy point of view. The only thing this is evidence of is already known

153: 2097:). After a few days or so, I noticed this, and I reverted his edit, and reported this to one of the notice boards, using a new IP address (my ISP is dynamic and randomly changes). You can see where I reported it 753: 2464:- I'm not sure, but it looks like my last edit on the article was OK. (If not, we can talk about it.) So, it looks like this is probably resolved (mostly or totally). Thank you for your patience, fellow-editors. 1112:

all year long if they want to, and they spend maybe three weeks at the Grove? Some 94–95% of the chances for club men to have sex with each other would be happening at the Club in the city, not the Grove in the

1079:) 15:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC) I did not try to put inflammatory info from the source but I do wonder whether we should include the allegations of homosexual undertones somewhere in the article (as allegations) ? 2165:

thing as the 'edit' that I added? If, however, the Wikiquote page is allowed to stand (and not have that section deleted), then what is the problem with my proposal to copy their edit, here, word-for-word?

884:

deleted an old photo I found because the date I thought it was 1912 when I uploaded it but apparently the statue was built in the 1920s. I think the photo would add to the article, what do others think?

1657:

popularly thought of as sources of conspiracy are in the "See also" section. This does not mean that the P-U Club is known for conspiracy; it is not. It is simply local to Bohemian and also exclusive.

1950:

context and maybe didn't know it was Shakespeare either. Why would you delete the attribution, yet leave in the entire line quoting the Club-not-Grove's motto and its unsupported interpretation?

2827: 1871: 1833:

You know, a lot of people have attended, even Democrat presidents. I heard Jimmy Carter give a lunchtime speech there. He joked about being the only Democrat in the place, and got a good laugh.

2753:

Track 3 of Ab-Soul's Control System album is called Bohemian Grove and features the phrase "got me harder than sneaking a bitch in Bohemian Grove" referring to the general "men only" policy.

1714:

You are conflating my defense of the listing of P-U with the notion that I am defending the text following the wikilink. I would remove all text from the See also section except for wikilinks.

2234:

While it's hard to search the tapes at the source they list, nonetheless, independent sources, which I also cited, verify the accuracy of the official Presidential Tape website, as accurate.

1284:

unreliable sourcing and they are more think tank/discussion groups than recreational retreats (even if they all involve important members of our society.) Please feel free to discuss below.

2887: 418: 1830:

wrote that Clinton flew to Sonoma County airport to visit the Grove. That's all there is in the source. You cannot present it as a fact, the only fact is that a reporter reported it.

1495:

definitions. Several of the club members have taken a go at the issue, notably George Sterling who wrote that poverty, youth and radicalism were essential to the true definition of

1228:

I deleted it because the episode was not the subject of mainstream media commentary: it was not important enough. Abraham's blog is not a good enough source, not mainstream enough.

2225:. 3O is usually flexible by allowing a few exceptions, like those involving mainly two editors with an extra editor having minimal participation. Further guidance is available in 993:

deiced. This being said, even though the statue may not have been an artifact from the founding era, the depiction of an owl may be explained by the original project's name.

2445:

by Capital Gang, "Bill Bennett Discusses the Results of the New Hampshire Primary," Aired February 5, 2000. OK, enough good cites exist to fix this without controversial sources.

574: 2892: 1471:

by Virginia Nicholson). Question to more experienced Knowledge (XXG) editors: Is such material entirely out of place in this article, or could it be used? If so, any tips?

2524: 1166:

supposed to make judgments as to what's important but rather to include content relative to what the RS's think is important,i.e. notable and Weiss does clearly state that

2907: 1179:

This paragraph in Weiss's report clearly states,I think, that the uninhibited behavior is the most notable aspect of the Bohemian Grove which is the title of this article.

564: 2316:, the exception above would certainly apply. (I don't see why not.) In fact, here is the guideline allowing those "unknown" Youtube users (2 different users) to be used: 927:

Thanks, and after a slight review, I see that you are also correct that the statue is not supposed to be Moloch at all, that was the name on the image in error I think.

147: 2570: 2566: 2552: 2117:

if that failed. (So, I'm admitting that I may have made a mistake, but other than that, I don't see what I did to deserve getting blocked.) The block was for 31 hours.

229: 2882: 2917: 2912: 906: 528: 2209:

on the article talk page. 3O is only for assistance in resolving disagreements that have come to a standstill. If no agreement can be reached on the talk page and

1463:

ironic. I'm not yet familiar enough with Knowledge (XXG)'s rules, & I expect making such a comment in the article will be deleted as possibly inappropriate. I

540: 2294:, and I think you are right: I did not know that Knowledge (XXG) thought of itself as unreliable. It is correct to ask editors to cite to the actual source that 1576:, so should we also link to those clubs? I don't see why. I'll give it a week or two for others to argue for it staying. If no one does, I'll just remove it. 1517:

I agree that the name seems ironic nowadays. Of course, any potentially controversial additions to the article should be based on (and cite) reliable sources. —

1490:

article. The connection is that wandering newspaper reporters in America during the American Civil War took to calling themselves Bohemians. (We would call them

378: 902: 609: 79: 2877: 368: 2902: 2845:

I feel its important we add something about the Bohemiam Grove Infiltration that just took place, as it was recorded in 4k and seems very hard to be faked

2218: 733:

does not understand that s/he does not own Knowledge (XXG), that it is a COLLABORATIVE project. Instead, s/he seems to be trying to DICTATE it's content.

535: 512: 2366: 2330: 2313: 2273: 2065:

above and no dissent ensued = some modicum of consensus. Let's talk about it - with more than just the bully and myself = invitation for other input.

467: 441: 2897: 2802:

Hey, someone should consider adding the allegations published today by ProPublica regarding Justice Thomas and the Koch brothers at Bohemian Grove?

2542: 344: 85: 2276:

But, as it's controversial, I'm OK with it being left off. Using a Nazi or possibly-prejudiced source is a bad taste, so I do not object here.)

909:, where it was not free, but its use has been rationalized for the two articles it appears in. By the way, the statue is the "Owl Shrine" from 44: 2397: 1696:

come from?! No one suggested (least of all I, who know very well otherwise) that any conspiracy is involved with the P-U. Finally, you wrote "

2826:

I dont think that the only 2 controversies to come out of Bohemian Grove are it being a boys' club and logging. Dunno might be wrong though

2872: 2784: 2628:

How should it possibly comprise only two weeks but three weekends??? This does not make sense to me. Hoping for your intellectual support--

1807: 1766: 1254: 676: 30: 2805: 2525:

https://web.archive.org/web/20080611165825/http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/95-96/bill/sen/sb_2101-2150/sb_2110_cfa_960415_112802_sen_comm.html

1634:"interlink with the Bohemian Club and Grove". It's nonsensical, and the onus is upon the editor who added it to justify its inclusion. 1140:

hikers in the woods, farmers in their fields, fishermen, sailors, explorers... a lot of men urinate in nature when they get the chance.

1015: 2113:

to report the bad revert by Neutrality, because I think the rules required me to try and talk it out several times, and then report it

329: 284: 2831: 2808: 2465: 2446: 2420: 2371: 2235: 2174: 2066: 2048: 1875: 1443: 1316: 1170:

thought the peeing and other uninhibited behavior is especially important to this group and I'd say it deserves a subsection at least.

1122: 698: 1906:

Why would someone want to remove the attribution of the "weaving spiders come not here" quote (Shakespeare) which I added? Puzzled.

99: 2548:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

953:

I have added a photo of the statue and surrounding area that I took. I marked it as free use, but now I am not sure it qualifies.

104: 20: 2528: 1403: 74: 1247:

This article clearly has a strong bias to hint towards nefarious activities occurring at this camp. It needs to be rewritten.

2214: 259: 168: 2514: 65: 1003: 135: 1683:

The crux of the matter is that the justification for the "see also" is based upon the claim that the P-U club "membership

644: 405: 190: 2173:

please suggest a proper solution, with the proper protocol. I'm not perfect, but please assume good faith, ok? Thank you.

2613: 1269:

One change that could be done is eliminating Bilderberg Group from the See Also section... unrelated, merely CT thought

1622:

ties beyond the fact that many people in the SF area belong to multiple clubs. One could just as easily claim that the

225: 1217:

it anyway. Journalist Zennie Abraham, the CEO of Sports Business Simulations, blogged about it at SF Gate, calling it

1927: 1985:

their Queen Titania while she is sleeping. That context is not even needed at the club article, where it says only

185: 2201: 602: 109: 2543:

http://www.lsureveille.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticle&ustory_id=1536ce04-3f58-40d2-ae66-f272c19d17d9

1419: 1370: 1337: 1289: 1274: 2569:

to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

1428:

Does the article not have enough references to the "notable" Spy documentation? It honestly is filled with it.

1071:

I added a subsection on this aspect which it seems to me is oneof,if not, the most notable aspect of the event.

654: 199: 129: 2788: 2347: 1811: 1770: 1258: 680: 265: 2435: 2213:

are involved, follow the directions below to list the dispute. Otherwise, please follow other methods in the

1037:

may have reversed the significance of "Owl's Nest" with the owl mascot... The club's mascot was made the owl

1019: 2812: 2643:

Fifteen or sixteen days long, starting on a Friday night or Saturday morning, ending on a Sunday afternoon.

2604: 2496: 1631: 1126: 2504: 2416: 2398:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-11-07/news/9911070165_1_oval-office-tapes-nixon-john-d-ehrlichman/2

1867: 1803: 1762: 1431: 1391: 1304: 1250: 1159: 1011: 686: 472: 446: 125: 2854: 2469: 2450: 2424: 2375: 2239: 2178: 2070: 2052: 1955: 1911: 1627: 1573: 1439: 1399: 1312: 694: 961: 55: 2699: 2648: 2588:

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with

2576: 2024: 2000: 1936: 1891: 1838: 1786: 1719: 1662: 1596: 1504: 1352: 1233: 1145: 1054: 980: 918: 864: 343:

on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

2495:. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit 2291: 2254: 1951: 1907: 1435: 1308: 690: 70: 2806:

https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-secretly-attended-koch-brothers-donor-events-scotus

1988:

The club motto is "Weaving Spiders Come Not Here", a line taken from Act 2, Scene 2, of Shakespeare's

175: 2732: 2677: 2633: 2197: 1415: 1366: 1333: 1285: 1270: 1198: 1084: 1076: 1000: 940: 932: 890: 2400:

is "Nixon On Tape Expounds On Welfare And Homosexuality," November 07, 1999|By James Warren, at the

2047:

Editor "neutrality" is clearly not neutral. Stand down or else face edit war, which you can not win.

1931:." At the Bohemian Grove itself, the motto is only interesting as far as it is followed or ignored. 1218: 957: 247: 218: 2019:

Seems that the sister organization spawned from this club to Scalia's would be worthy of section.--

1734: 1705: 1639: 1581: 1549: 1522: 161: 749: 734: 2536: 2365:

convenient, but by no means necessary, for the archived copy to be accessible via the Internet."

1569: 881: 683:) 20:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC) Known about by few, judging by some of the people on this talk page. 660: 204: 2728: 2673: 2629: 2573:

before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template

2122: 2589: 2409: 2098: 2094: 935:) 15:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC) I will try to do a proper image upload later on and thanks again. 2529:

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/95-96/bill/sen/sb_2101-2150/sb_2110_cfa_960415_112802_sen_comm.html

2267: 1491: 1046: 738: 321: 51: 2727:

And still it is confusing IMHO to speak of a two-week event if it lasts longer than that...--

1038: 1033: 2722: 2695: 2663: 2644: 2039:

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Bohemian_Grove&diff=767465083&oldid=767326546

2020: 1996: 1932: 1887: 1834: 1782: 1715: 1658: 1592: 1500: 1476: 1348: 1229: 1141: 1050: 976: 914: 860: 828: 810:

Keeler, Charles Augustus; Wade C Hughan; Karen Melcher (frontispiece); Peter Rutledge Koch.

730: 718: 656: 625: 201: 141: 2596: 2222: 2193: 2850: 2401: 2258: 2086: 1395: 1194: 1080: 1072: 936: 928: 886: 2515:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120419142311/http://www.verlang.com/sfbay0004ref_bm_02.html

2189: 2151:

If that was the problems, please tell me. I can't read minds, and I'm doing my best here.

2125:

that day, and apparently he protested that I was mistreated, and got blocked himself. In

2768: 2694:

It's described in many sources as a two-week encampment. Nobody calls it 15 or 16 days.

2226: 1921:

That's the Club motto, not the Grove motto. The attribution of the quote appears at the

1609:

That's not the way it works, Binksternet. The way it works is that you need to provide

1004:

http://www.cityofsancarlos.org/visitors/history_of_san_carlos/san_carlos_in_the_1800.asp

2555:, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by 2488: 1730: 1701: 1635: 1577: 1545: 1539:

I don't think that it's as ironic as you're making it out to be. First, because there

1518: 1101: 850: 527: 506: 24: 2595:

If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with

2562: 2866: 2405: 1981: 1922: 1109: 1105: 910: 2439: 2149:

initially, and perhaps we should have sought help from "request for comment" pages.

1006: 1623: 1499:, but none of these elements were present in the upper crust of the Bohemian Club. 1212:

I deleted a paragraph discussing the attempted infiltration by Brad Meltzer and a

305: 278: 2518: 832: 820: 811: 802: 793: 784: 775: 766: 748:

There are several reasons I removed that text. It's wrong, it's undue weight per

1487: 1472: 1544:

Jack London (all early or founding members) could be described as "bohemians".

460: 435: 2846: 2561:. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than 1861: 395: 339: 334: 311: 1301:

This article doesn't have enough documentation of the nefarious activities.

601:

This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the

2436:

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/chicago-sun-times/20090224/281762740160123

2314:

Knowledge (XXG):Identifying_reliable_sources#Biased_or_opinionated_sources

2274:

Knowledge (XXG):Identifying_reliable_sources#Biased_or_opinionated_sources

1032:

There is some misinformation mixed in with the accurate facts. First off,

658: 203: 1759:

Was later shown to be an attendee. Mabye someone should look into this.

2505:

https://web.archive.org/web/20060720075754/http://www.fair.org/index.php

798:. "Upon the Occasion of the 74th Consecutive Performance, July 18, 1953" 387: 2858: 2835: 2816: 2792: 2736: 2703: 2681: 2652: 2637: 2618: 2473: 2454: 2428: 2393: 2379: 2261: 2243: 2188:

Notes to self: The initial reverting editor, Neutrality, suggested See

2182: 2074: 2062: 2056: 2028: 2004: 1959: 1940: 1915: 1895: 1879: 1842: 1815: 1790: 1774: 1738: 1723: 1709: 1690:

This does not mean that the P-U Club is known for conspiracy; it is not

1666: 1643: 1600: 1585: 1553: 1526: 1508: 1480: 1447: 1423: 1407: 1374: 1356: 1341: 1320: 1293: 1278: 1262: 1237: 1202: 1149: 1130: 1088: 1058: 1023: 984: 965: 944: 922: 894: 868: 795:

The Cremation of Care: A History Exhumed and Dusted Off by Palmer Field

754:

Knowledge (XXG):Do not include the full text of lengthy primary sources

742: 702: 2111:

I do admit that I think that I may have wrongly used that notice board

1798: 1826:

The best you could do is to say that such and such a reporter in the

1041:, certainly by December 1874 when the new mascot was reported in the 954: 722: 1995:

This interpretation is taken from the Peter Martin Phillips paper.

1365:

All in favor of deleting? Perhaps 3 days of conversation/dissent?

1001:

http://www.inconspicuoustruth.com/#!__political-main/bohemian-club

1568:

In the section "See also", there is a link to the wiki about the

2668:

Okay, thanks a lot! But in this case, it shouldn't be called "a

2508: 2147:(three different "report incident" boards were used by my count) 2063:

https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Bohemian_Grove#Uninhibited_behaior

1108:, if anything. Did you know club men can spend the night at the 1591:

The P-U Club link should stay but the justification should go.

1467:

provide some references on the definition of bohemianism (e.g.

2442: 2270:

being Nazi-related, but now that you point this out, I agree.

913:, not Moloch or whatever fanciful ideas came from Alex Jones. 725:. In fact, this user has been found guilty of this censorship 661: 619: 590: 241: 213: 205: 15: 2101:. On 02:58, 26 February 2017, I was blocked by another admin 1925:

article: "a line taken from Act 2, Scene 2, of Shakespeare's

2410:

http://www.vox.com/2015/10/8/9464035/dick-nixon-first-person

386: 2499:

for additional information. I made the following changes:

2266:

OK, thank you for replying. I did not know anything about

2434:

The Chicago Sun-Times lists "May 13, 1971" as the date:

2298:

had cited (if it is reliable), so I will look into that.

333:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the 2492: 2396:

looksgood to cite Nixon. Whoah!! I hit the motherload:

2126: 2102: 2090: 2038: 2034:

Open Vandalism by bullies, perhaps long-time editors?..

1973: 1886:

Why would we want to post a link to the youtube video?

1219:"embarrassingly bad and devoid of any real information" 837:. "Fiftieth anniversary of the cremation of care." 1930 726: 160: 2769:

https://open.spotify.com/album/26RLXRJA7aOOffZJGjUaSW

774:

Bromley, George T.; Frederick Somers; Bohemian Club.

2253:

user-generated content are not reliable either; see

2015:

2016 Re-emergence after Cibolo Ranch Death of Scalia

2565:using the archive tool instructions below. Editors 1486:Some of what you are looking for is already in the 1095:the concept that most do not. So what? Some of the 174: 2109:While I think that I had not edited disruptively, 1698:It is simply local to Bohemian and also exclusive. 2440:http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0002/05/cg.00.html 1007:http://www.noehill.com/sanmateo/nat1994001500.asp 2080:Request for Comment: Giving "Peace" a 2nd chance 955:http://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Owl_Shrine.jpg 470:, a project which is currently considered to be 33:for general discussion of the article's subject. 1986: 1188:You know you are inside the Bohemian Grove when 907:File:Harvey Hancock at Bohemian Grove 1967.jpeg 905:You can see one of those in place at the image 845:. The text pulls the attention more toward the 2888:Mid-importance San Francisco Bay Area articles 2551:This message was posted before February 2018. 2519:http://www.verlang.com/sfbay0004ref_bm_02.html 1458:What about the irony of calling it "bohemian"? 1034:Nathaniel J. Brittan joined the Bohemian Club 777:The Cremation of Care Fifty-third Celebration 752:and it's a deprecated repository of text per 549:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Alternative Views 8: 2367:Knowledge (XXG):Identifying_reliable_sources 2331:Knowledge (XXG):Identifying_reliable_sources 482:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Secret Societies 2847:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vy8LTmmDvk 1972:To be clear, I assume we are talking about 2918:Pages in the Knowledge (XXG) Top 25 Report 2893:San Francisco Bay Area task force articles 2414: 2227:| Third Opinion frequently asked questions 1980:-specific facts should be featured at the 1862:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StlhOlztQNw 1429: 1389: 1302: 684: 501: 430: 273: 2908:Low-importance Alternative Views articles 2487:I have just modified 3 external links on 1976:from July 2012. I continue to think that 2883:C-Class San Francisco Bay Area articles 2761: 1104:exactly, I think it is an issue of the 783:Field, Charles Kellogg; Bohemian Club. 503: 432: 275: 245: 2913:WikiProject Alternative Views articles 2828:2A02:85F:E858:51C3:BD46:CA7E:9E7F:7A0F 2624:"A two-week, three-weekend encampment" 1872:2602:306:CCE5:D220:5D6B:876C:F3B2:5259 997:available on the following websites: 552:Template:WikiProject Alternative Views 353:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject California 822:The Ceremony of the Cremation of Care 721:. You can read about this censorship 485:Template:WikiProject Secret Societies 7: 2394:http://www.azquotes.com/quote/633466 1797:it was in this newstatesman article 533:This article is within the scope of 466:This article is within the scope of 327:This article is within the scope of 2878:High-importance California articles 2196:in his edit comments. I also found 2105:for supposedly disruptive editing. 1799:http://newstatesman.com/node/148638 1347:I was never a fan of this section. 1208:Brad Meltzer attempted infiltration 813:A Service for the Cremation of Care 605:. The week in which this happened: 264:It is of interest to the following 23:for discussing improvements to the 2903:C-Class Alternative Views articles 819:Newhall, Almer M.; Bohemian Club. 228:on October 19 2006. The result of 14: 2491:. Please take a moment to review 2099:here, using this IP: 96.59.131.65 768:Ceremony of the Cremation of Care 414:San Francisco Bay Area task force 50:New to Knowledge (XXG)? Welcome! 2133:was blocked, also for 31 hours. 624: 594: 526: 505: 459: 434: 398: 314: 304: 277: 246: 217: 45:Click here to start a new topic. 2898:WikiProject California articles 2061:Besides, this was discussed it 569:This article has been rated as 373:This article has been rated as 356:Template:WikiProject California 224:This article was nominated for 2817:06:04, 23 September 2023 (UTC) 2219:dispute resolution noticeboard 849:when the article is about the 804:The Bohemian Jinks: A Treatise 792:Field, Palmer; Bohemian Club. 1: 2836:18:45, 20 November 2023 (UTC) 2737:19:04, 12 December 2017 (UTC) 2509:http://www.fair.org/index.php 2202:Knowledge (XXG):Third_opinion 2093:edit (when my IP address was 2075:02:42, 26 February 2017 (UTC) 2057:02:40, 26 February 2017 (UTC) 2029:17:52, 25 February 2016 (UTC) 1941:02:19, 11 December 2012 (UTC) 1916:21:52, 10 December 2012 (UTC) 1739:07:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC) 1724:08:35, 15 February 2012 (UTC) 1710:08:14, 15 February 2012 (UTC) 1667:14:38, 14 February 2012 (UTC) 1644:05:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC) 1527:01:13, 31 December 2011 (UTC) 1509:04:15, 30 December 2011 (UTC) 1481:03:20, 30 December 2011 (UTC) 1131:03:07, 24 February 2017 (UTC) 536:WikiProject Alternative views 411:This article is supported by 406:San Francisco Bay Area portal 347:and see a list of open tasks. 42:Put new text under old text. 2704:20:37, 6 December 2017 (UTC) 2682:19:44, 6 December 2017 (UTC) 2653:16:02, 6 December 2017 (UTC) 2638:09:29, 6 December 2017 (UTC) 1896:14:12, 26 October 2012 (UTC) 1880:06:18, 26 October 2012 (UTC) 1601:19:43, 28 January 2012 (UTC) 1586:18:31, 28 January 2012 (UTC) 1554:18:54, 28 January 2012 (UTC) 468:WikiProject Secret Societies 2873:C-Class California articles 2841:Bohemiam Grove Infiltration 2348:Knowledge (XXG):Video_links 1448:23:56, 8 October 2016 (UTC) 1424:18:57, 20 August 2011 (UTC) 1375:15:55, 19 August 2011 (UTC) 1357:13:20, 19 August 2011 (UTC) 1342:02:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC) 1321:23:47, 8 October 2016 (UTC) 1294:02:54, 19 August 2011 (UTC) 1279:02:48, 19 August 2011 (UTC) 1225:episode "decoded nothing". 985:18:59, 11 August 2011 (UTC) 966:18:29, 11 August 2011 (UTC) 703:00:15, 9 October 2016 (UTC) 2934: 2582:(last update: 5 June 2024) 2484:Hello fellow Wikipedians, 1843:08:05, 16 April 2012 (UTC) 1816:07:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC) 1791:07:28, 16 April 2012 (UTC) 1775:07:20, 16 April 2012 (UTC) 1263:02:47, 5 August 2011 (UTC) 1203:20:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC) 1150:16:15, 21 March 2010 (UTC) 1089:15:42, 21 March 2010 (UTC) 945:15:40, 21 March 2010 (UTC) 923:15:25, 21 March 2010 (UTC) 895:15:07, 21 March 2010 (UTC) 575:project's importance scale 555:Alternative Views articles 379:project's importance scale 2859:19:23, 21 July 2024 (UTC) 2793:10:52, 10 June 2022 (UTC) 2619:00:24, 23 July 2017 (UTC) 2474:08:25, 2 March 2017 (UTC) 2455:06:42, 2 March 2017 (UTC) 2429:06:31, 2 March 2017 (UTC) 2380:06:21, 2 March 2017 (UTC) 2262:05:53, 2 March 2017 (UTC) 2244:05:42, 2 March 2017 (UTC) 2183:05:30, 2 March 2017 (UTC) 1990:A Midsummer Night's Dream 1928:A Midsummer Night's Dream 1408:19:31, 21 July 2024 (UTC) 1238:20:33, 16 June 2011 (UTC) 1059:22:54, 11 July 2013 (UTC) 1024:21:32, 11 July 2013 (UTC) 869:23:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC) 743:23:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC) 709:Censorship by Binksternet 568: 521: 488:Secret Societies articles 454: 394: 372: 299: 272: 80:Be welcoming to newcomers 2005:14:49, 24 May 2013 (UTC) 1960:09:42, 24 May 2013 (UTC) 1856:3rd paragraph resubmit) 2849:(By Dancer on youtube) 2480:External links modified 2290:Also, I took a look at 1632:San Francisco Golf Club 903:non-free use rationale. 816:, Lands End Press, 1989 2749:Pop Culture References 1994: 1628:St. Francis Yacht Club 1574:St. Francis Yacht Club 391: 330:WikiProject California 290:San Francisco Bay Area 254:This article is rated 75:avoid personal attacks 2672:encampment", right?-- 1902:Removal of reference? 1852:Infiltrations rewrite 834:The Cremation of Care 786:The Cremation of Care 390: 258:on Knowledge (XXG)'s 100:Neutral point of view 2563:regular verification 2217:process such as the 2207:thoroughly discussed 2198:Requests_for_comment 1383:Infiltration Section 1067:Uninhibited behavior 829:Swinnerton, James G. 645:Archive 1: 2003–2008 105:No original research 2553:After February 2018 2223:request for comment 1469:Among the Bohemians 1158:I'm relying on our 359:California articles 2607:InternetArchiveBot 2558:InternetArchiveBot 2215:dispute resolution 1570:Pacific-Union Club 1492:war correspondents 1047:"Scientific notes" 1039:"at an early date" 610:March 3 to 9, 2024 392: 260:content assessment 86:dispute resolution 47: 2583: 2431: 2419:comment added by 2268:The_Daily_Stormer 1870:comment added by 1806:comment added by 1765:comment added by 1450: 1434:comment added by 1410: 1394:comment added by 1323: 1307:comment added by 1253:comment added by 1160:notability policy 1014:comment added by 847:Cremation of Care 831:; Bohemian Club. 801:Garnett, Porter, 705: 689:comment added by 667: 666: 618: 617: 589: 588: 585: 584: 581: 580: 546:Alternative Views 513:Alternative Views 500: 499: 496: 495: 429: 428: 425: 424: 322:California portal 240: 239: 212: 211: 66:Assume good faith 43: 2925: 2771: 2766: 2726: 2667: 2617: 2608: 2581: 2580: 2559: 2540: 2211:only two editors 1882: 1818: 1781:Shown? Show me. 1777: 1265: 1043:Overland Monthly 1026: 662: 628: 620: 598: 597: 591: 557: 556: 553: 550: 547: 530: 523: 522: 517: 509: 502: 490: 489: 486: 483: 480: 479:Secret Societies 463: 456: 455: 450: 442:Secret Societies 438: 431: 408: 403: 402: 401: 361: 360: 357: 354: 351: 324: 319: 318: 317: 308: 301: 300: 295: 292: 281: 274: 257: 251: 250: 242: 234:keep and cleanup 221: 214: 206: 179: 178: 164: 95:Article policies 16: 2933: 2932: 2928: 2927: 2926: 2924: 2923: 2922: 2863: 2862: 2843: 2824: 2800: 2798:Clarence Thomas 2781: 2776: 2775: 2774: 2767: 2763: 2751: 2720: 2661: 2626: 2611: 2606: 2574: 2567:have permission 2557: 2534: 2497:this simple FaQ 2482: 2402:Chicago Tribune 2392:Notes to self: 2087:User:Neutrality 2082: 2036: 2017: 1904: 1865: 1854: 1801: 1760: 1757: 1566: 1460: 1416:Sailingfanblues 1385: 1367:Sailingfanblues 1334:Sailingfanblues 1329: 1286:Sailingfanblues 1271:Sailingfanblues 1248: 1245: 1210: 1069: 1009: 879: 771:, July 27, 1918 765:Bohemian Club. 713:I am reporting 711: 672: 663: 657: 633: 614: 595: 554: 551: 548: 545: 544: 515: 487: 484: 481: 478: 477: 444: 404: 399: 397: 375:High-importance 358: 355: 352: 349: 348: 320: 315: 313: 294:High‑importance 293: 287: 255: 208: 207: 202: 121: 116: 115: 114: 91: 61: 12: 11: 5: 2931: 2929: 2921: 2920: 2915: 2910: 2905: 2900: 2895: 2890: 2885: 2880: 2875: 2865: 2864: 2842: 2839: 2823: 2820: 2799: 2796: 2785:41.210.146.231 2780: 2777: 2773: 2772: 2760: 2759: 2755: 2750: 2747: 2746: 2745: 2744: 2743: 2742: 2741: 2740: 2739: 2711: 2710: 2709: 2708: 2707: 2706: 2687: 2686: 2685: 2684: 2656: 2655: 2625: 2622: 2601: 2600: 2593: 2546: 2545: 2531: 2523:Added archive 2521: 2513:Added archive 2511: 2503:Added archive 2489:Bohemian Grove 2481: 2478: 2477: 2476: 2459: 2458: 2457: 2432: 2387: 2386: 2385: 2384: 2383: 2382: 2357: 2356: 2355: 2354: 2353: 2352: 2338: 2337: 2336: 2335: 2334: 2333: 2322: 2321: 2320: 2319: 2318: 2317: 2304: 2303: 2302: 2301: 2300: 2299: 2283: 2282: 2281: 2280: 2279: 2278: 2247: 2246: 2081: 2078: 2035: 2032: 2016: 2013: 2012: 2011: 2010: 2009: 2008: 2007: 1974:this reversion 1965: 1964: 1963: 1962: 1944: 1943: 1903: 1900: 1899: 1898: 1853: 1850: 1848: 1846: 1845: 1831: 1824: 1808:180.190.249.75 1796: 1794: 1793: 1767:180.190.249.75 1756: 1753: 1752: 1751: 1750: 1749: 1748: 1747: 1746: 1745: 1744: 1743: 1742: 1741: 1674: 1673: 1672: 1671: 1670: 1669: 1649: 1648: 1647: 1646: 1604: 1603: 1565: 1562: 1561: 1560: 1559: 1558: 1557: 1556: 1532: 1531: 1530: 1529: 1512: 1511: 1459: 1456: 1384: 1381: 1380: 1379: 1378: 1377: 1360: 1359: 1328: 1325: 1299: 1298: 1297: 1296: 1255:64.121.190.215 1244: 1241: 1209: 1206: 1183: 1182: 1181: 1180: 1174: 1173: 1172: 1171: 1153: 1152: 1136: 1135: 1134: 1133: 1115: 1114: 1102:Bohemian Grove 1068: 1065: 1064: 1063: 1062: 1061: 990: 989: 988: 987: 969: 968: 950: 949: 948: 947: 878: 877:the Owl Statue 875: 874: 873: 872: 871: 857:Not repository 854: 851:Bohemian Grove 840: 839: 838: 826: 817: 808: 799: 790: 781: 772: 729:. Apparently, 710: 707: 677:207.216.77.201 671: 668: 665: 664: 659: 655: 653: 650: 649: 648: 647: 639: 638: 635: 634: 629: 623: 616: 615: 613: 612: 606: 599: 587: 586: 583: 582: 579: 578: 571:Low-importance 567: 561: 560: 558: 531: 519: 518: 516:Low‑importance 510: 498: 497: 494: 493: 491: 464: 452: 451: 439: 427: 426: 423: 422: 419:Mid-importance 410: 409: 393: 383: 382: 371: 365: 364: 362: 345:the discussion 326: 325: 309: 297: 296: 282: 270: 269: 263: 252: 238: 237: 230:the discussion 222: 210: 209: 200: 198: 197: 194: 193: 181: 180: 118: 117: 113: 112: 107: 102: 93: 92: 90: 89: 82: 77: 68: 62: 60: 59: 48: 39: 38: 35: 34: 28: 25:Bohemian Grove 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 2930: 2919: 2916: 2914: 2911: 2909: 2906: 2904: 2901: 2899: 2896: 2894: 2891: 2889: 2886: 2884: 2881: 2879: 2876: 2874: 2871: 2870: 2868: 2861: 2860: 2856: 2852: 2848: 2840: 2838: 2837: 2833: 2829: 2822:Controversies 2821: 2819: 2818: 2814: 2810: 2807: 2803: 2797: 2795: 2794: 2790: 2786: 2778: 2770: 2765: 2762: 2758: 2754: 2748: 2738: 2734: 2730: 2724: 2719: 2718: 2717: 2716: 2715: 2714: 2713: 2712: 2705: 2701: 2697: 2693: 2692: 2691: 2690: 2689: 2688: 2683: 2679: 2675: 2671: 2665: 2660: 2659: 2658: 2657: 2654: 2650: 2646: 2642: 2641: 2640: 2639: 2635: 2631: 2623: 2621: 2620: 2615: 2610: 2609: 2598: 2594: 2591: 2587: 2586: 2585: 2578: 2572: 2568: 2564: 2560: 2554: 2549: 2544: 2538: 2532: 2530: 2526: 2522: 2520: 2516: 2512: 2510: 2506: 2502: 2501: 2500: 2498: 2494: 2490: 2485: 2479: 2475: 2471: 2467: 2463: 2460: 2456: 2452: 2448: 2444: 2441: 2437: 2433: 2430: 2426: 2422: 2418: 2411: 2407: 2406:Vox_(website) 2403: 2399: 2395: 2391: 2390: 2389: 2388: 2381: 2377: 2373: 2368: 2363: 2362: 2361: 2360: 2359: 2358: 2349: 2344: 2343: 2342: 2341: 2340: 2339: 2332: 2328: 2327: 2326: 2325: 2324: 2323: 2315: 2310: 2309: 2308: 2307: 2306: 2305: 2297: 2293: 2289: 2288: 2287: 2286: 2285: 2284: 2277: 2275: 2269: 2265: 2264: 2263: 2260: 2256: 2251: 2250: 2249: 2248: 2245: 2241: 2237: 2232: 2228: 2224: 2220: 2216: 2212: 2208: 2203: 2199: 2195: 2191: 2187: 2186: 2185: 2184: 2180: 2176: 2170: 2166: 2162: 2159: 2153: 2152: 2148: 2142: 2138: 2134: 2132: 2128: 2124: 2123:47.192.18.128 2118: 2116: 2112: 2107: 2104: 2100: 2096: 2092: 2088: 2079: 2077: 2076: 2072: 2068: 2064: 2059: 2058: 2054: 2050: 2045: 2041: 2040: 2033: 2031: 2030: 2026: 2022: 2014: 2006: 2002: 1998: 1993: 1991: 1983: 1982:Bohemian Club 1979: 1975: 1971: 1970: 1969: 1968: 1967: 1966: 1961: 1957: 1953: 1948: 1947: 1946: 1945: 1942: 1938: 1934: 1930: 1929: 1924: 1923:Bohemian Club 1920: 1919: 1918: 1917: 1913: 1909: 1901: 1897: 1893: 1889: 1885: 1884: 1883: 1881: 1877: 1873: 1869: 1863: 1857: 1851: 1849: 1844: 1840: 1836: 1832: 1829: 1828:New Statesman 1825: 1821: 1820: 1819: 1817: 1813: 1809: 1805: 1800: 1792: 1788: 1784: 1780: 1779: 1778: 1776: 1772: 1768: 1764: 1754: 1740: 1736: 1732: 1727: 1726: 1725: 1721: 1717: 1713: 1712: 1711: 1707: 1703: 1699: 1695: 1692:." Where did 1691: 1686: 1682: 1681: 1680: 1679: 1678: 1677: 1676: 1675: 1668: 1664: 1660: 1655: 1654: 1653: 1652: 1651: 1650: 1645: 1641: 1637: 1633: 1629: 1625: 1621: 1616: 1612: 1611:justification 1608: 1607: 1606: 1605: 1602: 1598: 1594: 1590: 1589: 1588: 1587: 1583: 1579: 1575: 1571: 1563: 1555: 1551: 1547: 1542: 1538: 1537: 1536: 1535: 1534: 1533: 1528: 1524: 1520: 1516: 1515: 1514: 1513: 1510: 1506: 1502: 1498: 1493: 1489: 1485: 1484: 1483: 1482: 1478: 1474: 1470: 1466: 1457: 1455: 1451: 1449: 1445: 1441: 1437: 1433: 1426: 1425: 1421: 1417: 1411: 1409: 1405: 1401: 1397: 1393: 1382: 1376: 1372: 1368: 1364: 1363: 1362: 1361: 1358: 1354: 1350: 1346: 1345: 1344: 1343: 1339: 1335: 1327:Quote Section 1326: 1324: 1322: 1318: 1314: 1310: 1306: 1295: 1291: 1287: 1282: 1281: 1280: 1276: 1272: 1268: 1267: 1266: 1264: 1260: 1256: 1252: 1242: 1240: 1239: 1235: 1231: 1226: 1224: 1221:and that the 1220: 1215: 1207: 1205: 1204: 1200: 1196: 1192: 1189: 1178: 1177: 1176: 1175: 1169: 1165: 1161: 1157: 1156: 1155: 1154: 1151: 1147: 1143: 1138: 1137: 1132: 1128: 1124: 1119: 1118: 1117: 1116: 1111: 1110:Bohemian Club 1107: 1106:Bohemian Club 1103: 1098: 1093: 1092: 1091: 1090: 1086: 1082: 1078: 1074: 1066: 1060: 1056: 1052: 1048: 1044: 1040: 1035: 1031: 1030: 1029: 1028: 1027: 1025: 1021: 1017: 1016:67.180.233.78 1013: 1008: 1005: 1002: 998: 994: 986: 982: 978: 973: 972: 971: 970: 967: 963: 959: 956: 952: 951: 946: 942: 938: 934: 930: 926: 925: 924: 920: 916: 912: 911:Haig Patigian 908: 904: 899: 898: 897: 896: 892: 888: 883: 876: 870: 866: 862: 858: 855: 852: 848: 844: 841: 836: 835: 830: 827: 824: 823: 818: 815: 814: 809: 806: 805: 800: 797: 796: 791: 788: 787: 782: 779: 778: 773: 770: 769: 764: 763: 761: 758: 757: 755: 751: 747: 746: 745: 744: 740: 736: 732: 728: 724: 720: 716: 708: 706: 704: 700: 696: 692: 688: 682: 678: 669: 652: 651: 646: 643: 642: 641: 640: 637: 636: 632: 627: 622: 621: 611: 608: 607: 604: 603:Top 25 Report 600: 593: 592: 576: 572: 566: 563: 562: 559: 542: 538: 537: 532: 529: 525: 524: 520: 514: 511: 508: 504: 492: 475: 474: 469: 465: 462: 458: 457: 453: 448: 443: 440: 437: 433: 420: 417:(assessed as 416: 415: 407: 396: 389: 385: 384: 380: 376: 370: 367: 366: 363: 346: 342: 341: 336: 332: 331: 323: 312: 310: 307: 303: 302: 298: 291: 286: 283: 280: 276: 271: 267: 261: 253: 249: 244: 243: 235: 231: 227: 223: 220: 216: 215: 196: 195: 192: 189: 187: 183: 182: 177: 173: 170: 167: 163: 159: 155: 152: 149: 146: 143: 140: 137: 134: 131: 127: 124: 123:Find sources: 120: 119: 111: 110:Verifiability 108: 106: 103: 101: 98: 97: 96: 87: 83: 81: 78: 76: 72: 69: 67: 64: 63: 57: 53: 52:Learn to edit 49: 46: 41: 40: 37: 36: 32: 26: 22: 18: 17: 2844: 2825: 2809:76.147.5.101 2804: 2801: 2782: 2764: 2756: 2752: 2669: 2627: 2605: 2602: 2577:source check 2556: 2550: 2547: 2486: 2483: 2466:96.59.138.30 2461: 2447:96.59.138.30 2421:96.59.138.30 2415:— Preceding 2372:96.59.138.30 2295: 2271: 2236:96.59.138.30 2230: 2210: 2206: 2175:96.59.138.30 2171: 2167: 2163: 2161:exception.) 2157: 2154: 2150: 2146: 2143: 2139: 2135: 2130: 2119: 2114: 2110: 2108: 2106: 2095:96.59.162.50 2083: 2067:96.59.131.65 2060: 2049:96.59.131.65 2046: 2042: 2037: 2018: 1989: 1987: 1977: 1952:Midnightmuse 1926: 1908:Midnightmuse 1905: 1866:— Preceding 1858: 1855: 1847: 1827: 1802:— Preceding 1795: 1761:— Preceding 1758: 1755:Bill Clinton 1697: 1693: 1689: 1684: 1624:Olympic Club 1619: 1614: 1610: 1567: 1540: 1496: 1468: 1464: 1461: 1452: 1436:Astronautant 1430:— Preceding 1427: 1412: 1390:— Preceding 1386: 1330: 1309:Astronautant 1303:— Preceding 1300: 1249:— Preceding 1246: 1227: 1222: 1213: 1211: 1187: 1186: 1184: 1167: 1163: 1123:96.59.162.50 1096: 1070: 1042: 1010:— Preceding 999: 995: 991: 880: 856: 846: 843:Undue Weight 842: 833: 821: 812: 803: 794: 785: 776: 767: 759: 714: 712: 691:Astronautant 685:— Preceding 673: 630: 570: 534: 471: 412: 374: 338: 328: 266:WikiProjects 233: 184: 171: 165: 157: 150: 144: 138: 132: 122: 94: 19:This is the 2723:Binksternet 2696:Binksternet 2664:Binksternet 2645:Binksternet 2292:WP:CIRCULAR 2255:WP:CIRCULAR 2021:Wikipietime 1997:Binksternet 1933:Binksternet 1888:Binksternet 1835:Binksternet 1783:Binksternet 1716:Binksternet 1659:Binksternet 1593:Binksternet 1501:Binksternet 1488:Bohemianism 1349:Binksternet 1332:quotes...) 1230:Binksternet 1142:Binksternet 1051:Binksternet 977:Binksternet 915:Binksternet 882:Binksternet 861:Binksternet 731:Binksternet 719:Binksternet 148:free images 31:not a forum 2867:Categories 2851:SoundDrout 2757:References 2614:Report bug 2259:Neutrality 1685:interlinks 1564:"See also" 1396:SoundDrout 1195:Itabletboy 1081:Itabletboy 1073:Itabletboy 937:Itabletboy 929:Itabletboy 887:Itabletboy 715:censorship 670:Alex Jones 541:discussion 350:California 340:California 335:U.S. state 285:California 2597:this tool 2590:this tool 2537:dead link 2370:replying. 2296:Wikiquote 2127:this edit 1731:Bricology 1702:Bricology 1636:Bricology 1578:Bricology 1546:Bricology 1519:Stepheng3 958:Aarkwilde 750:WP:WEIGHT 88:if needed 71:Be polite 21:talk page 2783:Luganda 2670:two-week 2603:Cheers.— 2462:RESOLVED 2417:unsigned 2404:. Maybe 1868:unsigned 1804:unsigned 1763:unsigned 1620:informal 1497:bohemian 1444:contribs 1432:unsigned 1404:contribs 1392:unsigned 1317:contribs 1305:unsigned 1251:unsigned 1121:shortly. 1113:country. 1012:unsigned 717:by user 699:contribs 687:unsigned 675:about.-- 631:Archives 473:inactive 447:inactive 226:deletion 186:Archives 56:get help 29:This is 27:article. 2779:Luganda 2541:tag to 2493:my edit 2044:truth. 1630:or the 1223:Decoded 1214:Decoded 735:Sicjedi 573:on the 377:on the 256:C-class 154:WP refs 142:scholar 2533:Added 2194:WP:RSN 1823:weeks. 1626:, the 1473:Deluno 1097:hetero 825:, 1920 807:, 1908 780:, 1933 262:scale. 126:Google 2729:Mocht 2674:Mocht 2630:Mocht 2351:etc.) 2231:NOTE: 2190:WP:RS 2089:, in 1164:we're 760:Wrong 727:twice 169:JSTOR 130:books 84:Seek 2855:talk 2832:talk 2813:talk 2789:talk 2733:talk 2700:talk 2678:talk 2649:talk 2634:talk 2470:talk 2451:talk 2425:talk 2376:talk 2240:talk 2200:and 2179:talk 2115:only 2103:here 2091:this 2071:talk 2053:talk 2025:talk 2001:talk 1978:club 1956:talk 1937:talk 1912:talk 1892:talk 1876:talk 1839:talk 1812:talk 1787:talk 1771:talk 1735:talk 1720:talk 1706:talk 1694:that 1663:talk 1640:talk 1613:for 1597:talk 1582:talk 1550:talk 1541:were 1523:talk 1505:talk 1477:talk 1440:talk 1420:talk 1400:talk 1371:talk 1353:talk 1338:talk 1313:talk 1290:talk 1275:talk 1259:talk 1243:Bias 1234:talk 1199:talk 1146:talk 1127:talk 1085:talk 1077:talk 1055:talk 1020:talk 981:talk 962:talk 941:talk 933:talk 919:talk 891:talk 865:talk 739:talk 723:here 695:talk 681:talk 369:High 232:was 162:FENS 136:news 73:and 2571:RfC 2527:to 2517:to 2507:to 2443:CNN 2229:." 2221:or 2158:and 1864:) 1615:why 1465:can 1193:." 565:Low 337:of 176:TWL 2869:: 2857:) 2834:) 2815:) 2791:) 2735:) 2702:) 2680:) 2651:) 2636:) 2584:. 2579:}} 2575:{{ 2539:}} 2535:{{ 2472:) 2453:) 2427:) 2408:? 2378:) 2257:. 2242:) 2192:, 2181:) 2131:he 2073:) 2055:) 2027:) 2003:) 1958:) 1939:) 1914:) 1894:) 1878:) 1841:) 1814:) 1789:) 1773:) 1737:) 1722:) 1708:) 1665:) 1642:) 1599:) 1584:) 1552:) 1525:) 1507:) 1479:) 1446:) 1442:• 1422:) 1406:) 1402:• 1373:) 1355:) 1340:) 1319:) 1315:• 1292:) 1277:) 1261:) 1236:) 1201:) 1168:he 1148:) 1129:) 1087:) 1057:) 1045:: 1022:) 983:) 964:) 943:) 921:) 893:) 867:) 756:. 741:) 701:) 697:• 421:). 288:: 156:) 54:; 2853:( 2830:( 2811:( 2787:( 2731:( 2725:: 2721:@ 2698:( 2676:( 2666:: 2662:@ 2647:( 2632:( 2616:) 2612:( 2599:. 2592:. 2468:( 2449:( 2423:( 2374:( 2238:( 2177:( 2069:( 2051:( 2023:( 1999:( 1954:( 1935:( 1910:( 1890:( 1874:( 1837:( 1810:( 1785:( 1769:( 1733:( 1718:( 1704:( 1661:( 1638:( 1595:( 1580:( 1548:( 1521:( 1503:( 1475:( 1438:( 1418:( 1398:( 1369:( 1351:( 1336:( 1311:( 1288:( 1273:( 1257:( 1232:( 1197:( 1185:" 1144:( 1125:( 1083:( 1075:( 1053:( 1018:( 979:( 960:( 939:( 931:( 917:( 889:( 863:( 853:. 737:( 693:( 679:( 577:. 543:. 476:. 449:) 445:( 381:. 268:: 236:. 191:1 188:: 172:· 166:· 158:· 151:· 145:· 139:· 133:· 128:( 58:.

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.

Index