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French archaelogical dig. According to Adams, contemporary Greek accounts describe Bactra and Zariaspa as twin cities and 'that the two cities lay at the foot of the Paraopamisus mountains and the Bactra river flowed past their walls'. While his theory does not currently appear to have been confirmed or refuted by the academic community, given the consistency of circumstantial evidence with contemporary accounts it appears that future research is more likely than not to confirm the theory. Research sources are available on his website however there is a once-off fee to access this extended information. Given the area is not particularly safe for outsiders, it may be some time before sufficient evidence is available to satisfy the academic community.
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Hellenistic Bactria. "My hope of reaching Bactria made me take to Oriental studies, brought me to England & India, gave me my dearest friends & chances of fruitful work, and for all this I must be deeply grateful to Fate" (letter of 1923, quoted by Walker, p. 248). I do not know what moral to draw from the fact that, in the last year of his life, he was finally invited by the government of Afghanistan, the "Promised Land" of his private letters, only to die a week after he arrived in Kabul, a month shy of his eighty-first birthday."
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This page seems to be replete with a lot of representations regarding the history and the cultural exports of the city, however, there is no discussion of the local geography, current demographics, climate, governing structure and administrative districts, common architectural actions, or important
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This is amazing. You are giving me sources which clearly mentions that over 100 years ago those regions were dominated by non-Pashtuns and trying to prove that majority of the residents of Balkh district are non-Pashtuns. I have given you up-to date sources which clearly mentions that pashtuns make
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I would like to see a lot more about the Jews of Balkh subsection, especially demographic data if possible and even a subsection on Jews in the region after the creation of the state of Israel. Also, some information on the Jews that is spread out across different subsections would work better in
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This page seems to focus on the thoughts of others on Balkh a lot, mentioning travelers, famous figures who have visited the city, etc. How can we utilize this to help form an overall narrative of Balkh within its context as “the mother of all cities?” Is the theme of seeing Balkh as a place that
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on 27 July 2014. The location proposed is backed by circumstantial evidence including consistency with contemporary accounts (the site of modern Balkh is not) and the presence of archaeological ruins which are consistent with contemporary accounts; the ruins are the subject of a recent (ongoing?)
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might be the figure that's haunting the Bulgarian memory: "Stein's unending series of attempts, spread over forty-odd years of wanderings, to obtain permission to explore in Afghanistan, particularly at Balkh, the ancient Bactra, hoping to uncover the remains of the Greco-Buddhist civilization of
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Recent research by David Adams (an experienced Australian documentary maker and photo-journalist) and his research team suggests that Bactra and Zariaspa are not synonymous with Balkh but are located further south in the Shulgara Valley in the Paraopamisus mountain range. This was presented in
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This page features a lot of good detail about the city but its overall organization and consolidation of information is lacking. Moreover, important topics are given space but not bright, obvious attention in the form of subheadings or other section headers (i.e Zoroastrianism).
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However, the same temple is described twice here. I understand that it was in fact a Buddhist temple that was converted to Zoroasrianism, and not the other way around (unless it was converted twice?). So I merged the two descriptions, and added references to the most interesting
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There is a lot of space dedicated to the Arab Conquests, perhaps the issue with this is the language throughout the subheadings… Arab stands out far more in this context than other topics that contribute more to the overall identity and understanding of Balkh.
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article clearly states that. So I don't see why the articles says "Tajiks are also descendants of the Bactrians", when it mentions the Persians earlier. Since moern Tajiks are no longer the same "type" of Persians I have changed it to "Tajik-Persians."
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I'm pretty sure this is the town occasionally called "Wazirabad" (not to be confused with similarly named towns in Pakistan and India, and a neighborhood in Kabul). Any objections to my adding a mention of that alternate name, and liking to here from
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My statement. Then this 1998 source is misinformed?: "The ruins of the walls of this city are a length of three and half km and width of almost three km. Pre-Islamic relics are abundant, but no work has been done on the archaeology of these
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There should be no mention of Tajiks on this article, if they should be added then so should Pashtuns. Also there is no evidence that Tajiks are the sole descendants of Bactrians but rather Sodighans who more upwards in Tajikistan.
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visited Balkh in 1885, and provided an extensive description of the ruins there in his 1888 book. Anyone interested in revising the article from the historical or archeological point of view can consult it at the Internet Archive:
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so I have added the word "Historical" besides region for unbiasedness. I am not making any Pan-Iranian claims so I would appreciate your unbias comments. If consensus is made, I request that this change be made to the articles
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In the infobox, the subdivision parameters are for the current subdivisions. We can mention all of the city's history in the body of the article especially the History section, but we do not do that in infobox. Thanks,
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Pashtuns are living in Balkh district but it is irrational to think that the ethnography changed so greatly that 5% went up to 50% and up in 100 years. These are news articles not any academic sources.--
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Hi, the Subdivision and Country parameters in the infobox are for the current, and official, subdivisions (not historical subdivisions the city was ever part of). Please check other cities, e.g.
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Sheer, unadulterated speculation that it is likely to be confirmed - that's nothing but guesswork. If/until the historians change their minds, his theories are just so much ... fodder.
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Apparently it has increased that much that now they are in majority in Balkh district. It is not only that single news source, but other sources write the same thing. For example
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This section stated that Balkh had an impact on the development of the Persian Language but failed to show how or elaborate. It seems like there should be an elaboration.
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There is only one statistic for the population for 2021. Is there any more recent numbers? How was this done and is it accurate? Is there a trend for the population?
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Those articles have failed to provide any statistics or census that Balkh district is indeed a Pashtun dominated district. according to the book Ancient Supremacy
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This is an academic encyclepedia therefore you need to provide academic sources. for the mean time I am taking the Persian speaking sentence also out.--
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The quatation from Reference No. 8 "Buddhism in Central Asia", page 130under the Section "Buddhism" is not entirely correct. The correct statement is:
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A single Googling "Archaeology Balkh" will turn up information without digging, like pottery shards at Balkh, apparently. --
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It has really no place in the section and has no link whatsoever to the passage. Furthermore, it has not citations.
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I would seem that this page would benefit greatly from some focus on geographical layout and modern situations.
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Should the section about the Governor of Balkh being killed in a bomb blast be removed? He was governor of
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The city of Mazare Sharif was a stronghold of Dostum and Junbish but Uzbeks were a minority in the city.--
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Lots of modern buildings and seems to have a sizable population - hardly a "heap of ruiins." --: -->
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traded hands contradictory to its rhetoric as memento to “Aryana” and therefore all of Afghanistan?
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The lead section should talk about Zoroaster and Zoroastrianism. Balk is a very important spot for
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should be linked from this page. Could someone enlighten me? Perhaps it is a misspelling? --
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The temple was Buddhist then Zoroastrian, not the other way around (... right?)
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What was the etymology of Balkh? Balkh or Bactra(city), which name is older?
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Zoroastrian transformation, any sources for it being the other way around?
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I don't see any reason either. Some times people add it by mistakes. (
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Northern Afghanistan, or, Letters from the Afghan Boundary Commission
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I removed this passage from the section "Ancient Ruins of Balkh"
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No professional archaeologist has ever been able to work at Balkh.
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Charbolak, Chamtal, and Balkh district, all dominated by Pashtuns
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