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Bankruptcy over the years, and because this criticism is absent in the article, it could be seen as promotional (not necessarily by me, but my anybody, for any lawyers who want more information on its legislation when conducting their business). It is natural for lawyers to focus on legislation, i.e. the letter of the law, rather than the spirit of the law, but with all due respect, the almost endless lists and sections dealing with the legislation is unencylopedic to the general title of the article, and I've already suggested a title change. Failing the title change, my request is simply to add a perspective that is not entirely one-sided, thereby avoiding the risk of it being seen as violating NPOV. Regardless of whether I perceive it as COI or not, you pretty much run the risk of it being seen that way ad infinitum, because you, as a lawyer, are the major contributor. However we will not get into a dispute about that and leave COI aside for the time being and address the content.
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Ireland, rather than as a separate article. Otherwise it will still seem unbalanced. The bulk of the article deals with bankruptcy LAW, not "bankruptcy", therefore the article should be either renamed as "Bankruptcy Law in the Republic of Ireland", or should address the issues I have tagged it with. If you wish not to change the title then the article should cover a more broad palette than simply bankruptcy LAW. There is some addressing of this at the end of the article with the section "Recent reform and further proposals", this is the type of context that makes it understandable for all readers.
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First, I do not believe that the inference can be reasonablly drawn that I am of the view that emotional problems, including suicide, arising from insolvency are irrelevant and absolutly no insult was intended on by me regarding the emotional problems that individuals may suffer as a result of
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Believe it or not there is no subtext to my comments. As I have said before you have a good reference to a reliable source on matters such as suidides resulting from bankruptcy in Ireland please feel free to add them. I am not aware of any such sources, so I am not in a position to add
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insolvency. What I said was that I was not aware of any reliable sources in this regard. I am not going to add uncited anecdote on an issue such as this. If you have a good reference that you can dig out please feel free to do so.
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