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303:"By early morning of January 10, the pressure at the strong cyclone's center had fallen to 926 millibars (27.3 inHg) near 58.5N 18W as it slowed its northeast motion." - again, there is improper antecedent usage. Grammatically, the main noun is "pressure", so it reads "the pressure had fallen as it slowed its northeast motion". Pretty minor, but the writing could be spiffied up. 42: 263:
The 2nd paragraph of the MH begins by talking about "the new low", but that was only mentioned briefly once in the first paragraph. IDK, when I was reading it, I didn't get a good sense of flow. Two other issues with the opening sentence. It says "to its south" without a clear antecedent, and it also
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Wikilinked to the stub weather ship article. They're exactly what they claim to be...ships in specific locations that are out there for the sole purpose of taking weather observations at sea. They were active from the 1940s into the 1980s, before being replaced with weather buoys. To help support
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All the articles state about the system is that its central pressure was estimated from the surface analyses available. At work, when this system has been mentioned in passing, they mentioned a figure closer to 910 mb, but without a reliable pressure measurement near the center, it's impossible to
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IDK, I just figured that km should be the primary unit, since it affected Europe, and then mph would be in parenthesis. I'm not really familiar with extratropical storm articles, but I think the logic is the same as with tropical cyclones, that the public never uses knots, nor nmi. --♫
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Much better. Just quick question now - did the storm actually cause the snow? The article mentions snow only once, saying "The wind combined with the snowfall to the north led to blizzards across most of Scotland." It's not clarified whether the storm actually caused it. --♫
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Most importantly, I guess, what meteorological conditions allowed the storm to attain such a record low pressure? You mention the low forming to its south, and that seems to be the only meteorological detail other than what the pressure was and where the low
655:"The wind combined with the snowfall led to blizzards across most of Scotland" - did the storm cause snowfall? If so, that sentence is the only indication on there being any snow. Even if not, more clarification is needed. 268:
I tried to explain the second low's development better by rewording a couple of the lines. I was attempting to go in chronological order, but I can see how this is confusing to the reader. How do you suggest I proceed?
744:"Thunderstorms were observed despite the near-freezing readings" - similar to the above, that is the only mention of temperature. Did the cyclone cause lower than normal temperatures? If so, that should be mentioned. 126: 834:
Well, I'm very glad I didn't fail it! Thank you for your quick work. There are just a few small things I'd like to see clarified a bit more. Then I'll be glad to pass it. --♫
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It is just the location the storm was at during that time. I went ahead and provided a more generic location, since it was located far from any land location.
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Um, no. Earlier on in the article, the strength of the upper level jet and unusually strong SST gradient in its vicinity were mentioned as factors.
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You should probably clarify in the article that the pressure is estimated. The current wording makes it look like it was recorded. --♫
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It was an ocean storm, so knots made sense. Plus, all the references use knots. If you want me to convert the knots to mph, I can.
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Also, you say the buoys can't record pressures lower than 925, so how was the pressure of 914 recorded? The article never says that.
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It was output from the convert template. Did you want me to qualify the coding to specify abbreviations instead?
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Speaking of linking, you link Iceland the second time you mention it, and not the first. Consistency would be good
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I'm tempted to fail it, but I'll put it on hold instead, since my issues might well be easy to address. --♫
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Also, I noticed it here and elsewhere, but when you say "early morning", is that UTC, or local time? --♫
553:"However, the system began to weaken, and by evening" - it doesn't indicate by the evening of what date 803:
Also, I'm not sure why the conversion template is not working properly, but 930 hPa is not 27.0 inHg.
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Also, really minor, but could you split "Preparations and impact" into two paragraph? ;) --♫
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Per newly-found reference, added more about the weather that day in Great Britain.
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Yea, I'd suggest the same if you had "kilometre" written out every time. --♫
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Added a line about its cause of the oil spill's rapid dispersion.
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Added another significant figure, so the values look better now.
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The addition of info about the NAO should address this concern.
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this article, I'm somewhat expanding the weather ship article.
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Maybe link to something when you say "hurricane-force winds"
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says "had dropped"? There is no context to use such wording
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Is there a reason you spell out "millibar" every time?
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