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dies of disease or mistreatment that could have been prevented. the world is a veil of tears. we will not fix that here. All we ask here is that an individuals death be relatively notable as referenced in somewhat neutral sources: local papers, city/state papers, magazine articles, TV documentaries, etc. If you can find the references, add the material. No one is categorizing the deaths as common, and calling someone a fool for trying to do their volunteer work here is not worthy of an editor here. In Alameda County, California, there is a memorial to all children who die as a result of violence, with a grove of trees, one for each year, and a cement/stone circle, with metal plaques for each year of names, with a poem in their honor. its not well known, but it matters to the families and others. I will add such memorial sites to any article on any city if i hear of the site as described in a reliable source. If people are too callous to not honor their dead properly, we cant make up for that here, but we can document notable instances of such memorializing.
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notable and worthy of an article. some fallen officers do become notable, its fairly easy to show that, (the 2009 police shootings in oakland are an example, as the officers who fell got massive public attention, thus we wrote on it), so if someone thinks any of these deaths are notable by WP standards, just show the coverage, as it extends beyond this city. did any of their deaths start a memorial society? was there a day named in their honor statewide or county wide (if a major county by population), did their death lead to new legislation around deaths of their sort, did the story get picked up by international media due to some unusual element? the sections as written give no indication that these were other than routine (if tragic and senseless) police force events.
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same casket. One womans severed arm was never found. The driver is found guilty of four counts of vehicular manslaughter (although he killed eight people) and was sent to a Michigan Sanatarium, he died in 1992. It takes Firefighters and volunteers nine hours to clear the debris and Human wreckage. Disaster bags are ordered by City Council in 1965 after an eight year old boy is crushed by a steelhauling flat truck on the whitehouse crossing bridge. This conveniently directs attention from the fact that the sidewalk, which was in a state of disrepair, was significantly unsafe for anyone on a bicycle. The most common form of traffic fatality was the pedestrian-VS-Bus. With 36 of these attrocities to be cleaned up from 1950 through 1956 alone.
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neighboring cities-under mutual aid-exchange shots with the drunken Mits. Garfield Hts Police as well as Maple Heights Paramedics crash his door finding him pig-drunk. Mits sits on death row. Later in the year, on 12/12/94 two Police officers are killed when thier car breaks into a four wheel drift at a near by Cleveland intersection and strikes a steel pole roof first while in pursuit of a suspicious Cheverolet Blazer. The fugitive is quickly arrested and represented by Attorney George Forbes. He will go on to repeat this trick with the Cleveland Police.
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of exclusively local interest, but this fact is not. so, perhaps someone who is passionate about this city (a resident) would be willing to provide sources for these facts? I am not going to remove info here, as i can see from the edit history that theres a whole lot of heat, but not much light (sourcing), and i would prefer to not engage in a futile edit war. To my way of thinking, concise, well documented articles for smaller cities make a better impression on the reader than trivia loaded, boosterish articles, which this verges on to say the least.
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I just read through the article quickly. I see 3 officers died in 1994. i am sure that local or state papers commented on this, as the city's population is under 40k. Why, Id say the 2 officers who died should probably have their names mentioned. A lot of the material in this article is unsourced and
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Just becouse you dont feel something is "encycleopedic" doesnt mean those events dont have a place in history. Since when should only favorable or "nice" events be included in the history of the city? While these additions may seem harsh they did in fact take place. Since you take such an interest in
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The I-480 freeway did not open until 1974. The Police Officer who was killed was Sargeant Dennis Glivar, it was not a hostage situation but a shootout where Glivar was shot in the hallway of an apartment building. Eight people -not nine-died on august 8th 1976 when a tractor trailer ran into and over
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I write a newsletter (it has not ads, I make no $ from it, it is paid for by me) for my Ward. I am a City Councilwoman. Can I cut and paste or reprint articles from Knowledge (XXG) into my newsletter? Do I need your permission to do so, and if I do, how do I get it. I think Knowledge (XXG) is a
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0n 8/8/76 a semi tractor trailor driven by a drunken African-American Michigander careens down Granger hill and directly into seven cars. Screams and body parts fly as the tractor trailor rolls over and crushes the flaming cars. Two of the victims, a young couple recently engaged, were buried in the
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Although three Officers died you choose to recognize two, what does that tell us as to the state of your mind? Define "boosterish". These events are reported on regardless of the citys population. The heat comes from fools deleting known facts. These facts that you find questionable can be scourced
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Every Officer who lost his life deserves at least national fame, media attention and a statewide memorial as has been the case in all such tragedies. The circumstances surounding the deaths of the Officers is indicitive of the state of society at the time, no matter how static. Each death tells an
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More comments were removed, along with some corrections to the terrible spelling. I believe a citation is needed for the article references in the history section (regarding the toxicity of the materials in the landfill site). I did read it myself recently, but I don't have specifics. I believe it
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I took out your timeline as it was grossly inaccurate and a total farce. The fact that it was left standing as long as it was speaks volumes as to wikipedias reputation as a joke. Your pseudo "editors" claim all statements must be cited, except, apparently, those statements and opinions you agree
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as does every mother who dies defending their child, every fallen soldier, every civilian killed in crossfire, every firefighter killed in a fire, every social worker killed by a client, every ER doctor who is shot in the ER, every EMT who dies in a crash delivering a patient, and every child who
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I support the removal of this material as unsourced, and thus until sourced and shown to be notable, not encyclopedic. i would strongly encourage anyone who wants this material to be available to the public to find, or create, an officer's memorial site, and build it to the point that IT becomes
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intricate story and is an important part of the history of any city. To catagorize the deaths as common is to show ones self as a fool. How can you say a fact hasnt been cited when it was published in contemporary major and local newspapers? Fatalities are not a routine part of law enforcment.
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On 8/15/94 apartment dweller Harry (Don) Mitts shoots down and kills an unarmed neighbor in an apparent racial attack against bi-racial couples. Mitts then ambushes a young Police sargeant in his apartment hallway, killing him. Mitts then baracades himself for several hours as police from
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I did. It's not encyclopedic, cited to any independent sources, relevant, or appropriate for such an article. FYI, I removed it again, for the above reasons. Go and look at any big city's wiki page, (Cleveland, Detroit, take your pick) and you're not going to see a "fallen officers"
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The information on Jeffry Lawrence walking away from the scene of the double homocide can be scourced through the Cleveland Plain Dealer as well as the Garfield Heights Leader. I put it back as some asshole calling himself "overthinker" chose to remove it previously
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Someone removed the entire timeline rather than edit out the objectionable entries. It was easier to remove the entire section than to take the time to properly edit the timeline. By removing the entire timeline much information is lost. put it back.
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July 1985(?) Joe Lawrence approaches a nieghbors party armed with a .12 gauge shotgun and kills a young couple named Moody. He then throws Police into controlled panic when he simply stalks off. He surrenders days later and awaites leathal
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18:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC) History timeline: re install the history timeline, with revisions if you choose as some of the information is inaccurate and frivolous. Why take out the entire timeline instead of editing out the useless info?
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The overwhelming majority of wiki city/ town pages have a demographics section -- income, race, age, percentage living below the poverty level, etc. It's pretty standard and VERY encyclopedic. Why is it missing from this wiki page?
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book. And there's no citations. One of the dates are even followed by a question mark. I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just saying I don't believe its something that belongs in an article on Garfield Heights the city. -
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through the Clevlena Plain Dealer and the defunct Garfield Hts Leader as well as the Garfield Hts Nieghborhood News. How can any article be "well documented" when capricious edits can be made based on the opinion of fools?
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Who are you, why not sign in? define "encyclopedic". Its a part of Garfield Hts history which makes it relevant. Its all a mater of public record. We are not concerned with other citys and their wikipages.
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I removed the above two sections because they don't seem very encycleopedic ("Screams and body parts fly as the tractor trailor rolls over and crushes the flaming cars") sounds more like a
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I did some edits to the history section, working with an anonymous editor. I removed the potentially damaging/libelous statements. The whole section needs a good deal more citations.
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was the January 10th issue of Scene, but can't back that up. Regardless, much of the 'venom' was edited out of the statements. I have indicated which comments require citation.
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To the timeline were scourced from various articles taken from the Cleveland Press and Garfield Hts Leader by the literary giant formerly known as "Kaltenborn"
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Where as in 1960 they were: Polish American/common D.P.: 89% Slavs: 4% Italian/Spanish Islands: 5% Black/South American-Less than one per-cent
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The purchase of the ambulance can be cited through the Garfield Hts Historical Society, where proof of these events is for all to see.
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I feel I should warn you then, the City of Garfield Heights does not upkeep this website -- volunteers, both locals and non do. -
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The older more explicite version can be scourced by those scources listed, I.E. The Garfield Hts Leader and the Cleveland Press.
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Are as follows for the year 2011: White: 22% Black: 71% Polish American/Eastern European: 4% Common Italian/Puerto-rican: 3%
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Garfield Hts why not site these events and put them back in the article?
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