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have any sources that have shown this is a long term impacts on the company or industry? What lasting significance has this had in the news? Decades after the Nader controversy people still talk about it. Will they talk about GM overestimating fuel economy over a 6 year period? I don't see that as content that should be included at all (perhaps a single line mention in a section about emissions compliance as a whole) much less justifying moving a whole section further up in the article.
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the infobox. Sticking all negative info at the end of an article is a bit weird. And not mentioning anything negative in the lead is also a bit weird considering this is a company with a long history and of course stuff happened in so many years, both good and bad. If 50% of an article is all negative and the other 50% is all positive, that is clearly an NPOV problem.
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In most history books about GM, Earl and
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Basically all large companies lobby. As for giving away 5 cars. Yeah, that's sounds like the sort of stuff that should be removed. That said, what we shouldn't do is make this article read like it was written by people who want to make the company sound/look bad. Personally I think the history
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