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was engaged and sunk by the heavy covering force which was supporting Convoy JW 55B and ships from the Convoy's escort, not "British naval patrols" (which implies that the British ships just happened to be in the
210:"On 15 March, the two battleships, with the two tankers in company, encountered a dispersed convoy in the mid-Atlantic" - again, please name this convoy (it should also be linked as the action is clearly notable) 169:"she was laid down on 15 June 1935 and launched a year and four months later on 3 October 1936" - 'year and four months later' seems unnecessary seeing as you're providing the exact dates of these events as well 460:
to a US Navy sailor seems unlikely to be correct, but this should be PD-UK Gov given its age and where it was taken (from the deck of a British aircraft carrier it would seem) so there are no major dramas
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and reflected poorly on the German Navy's fighting spirit) and these views should be covered when the article is developed further, along with any counter-arguments.
182:"in an attempt to lure Ramillies away from the convoy so that Gneisenau could attack the convoy" - I'd suggest rewording this to remove one of the uses of 'convoy' 70: 99: 276: 203:
and her sister not engaging convoy HX-106 (on the grounds that this was unnecessarily cautious given the extent to which they outclassed the obsolete HMS
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I've also made some comments above about clarifying some parts of the article, but these are minor issues and easily addressed
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A lot of postwar books covering the German surface fleet have been very critical about
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I've made some suggestions above, but the general quality is sufficient for GA class
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The prose is generally very good, but I have a few minor suggestions:
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B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with
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Great work, I look forward to seeing this at a ACR or FAC
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A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have
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I also have some comments on the article's content:
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