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Nontrinitarianism that is sometimes referred to as "Modalistic Monarchianism" because it believes that God is not a Trinity but that God took on different modes or aspects throughout creation to accomplish His divine purposes, such as taking on the Mode of the Father in Creation, taking on the Mode of the Son in the New Testament Gospels, and then taking on the Mode of the Holy Spirit in this present day and age, so that God still exists as one God and that He does not exist simultaneously as Three Persons like the Trinity on the opposite hand teaches, which is also another exact same belief of Oneness Pentecostalism.
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attack multiple times in succession, rather than citing chapter and verse as requested, Jennings instructed his security team to "usher him (Vegas) out". Obviously, all of this is incredibly foolish misogyny; women should, of course, wear whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want. In
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We cannot use combative, derogatory language to others. That isn't civil, alongside telling someone that they "have it ass backwards." The edits are not running afoul of those. You have come here against a long-standing consensus of other contributors and have been highly belligerent. This is why you
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Oh my (or, if you'd prefer the words of
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Jennings did not want a fair debate", but if you have a third-party, scholarly analysis of the debate, in which a credentialed individual opines that Jennings didn't want a fair debate,
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Yes true, but to say that he is NOT also a
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adherents of his church, the First Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ, Inc. (FCOOLJC) just identify themselves as "Holy" or "Holiness" or as "the religion of
Biblical Holiness" because they choose not to personally identify with any so-called "man-made" religious or denominational names and titles.
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Jennings and Vegas is far clearer and less misleading than "altercation that ensued between Vegas, the church's audio and visual team, and the other associate ministers on the
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Gino Jennings and the FCOOLJC believe that speaking in tongues (glossolalia) is a required sign of evidence of being baptized with the Holy Spirit, which is one of the exact same beliefs and teachings of Oneness Pentecostalism. Gino Jennings and the FCOOLJC also believe in a staunchly Modalistic
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best hour of television programming in existence, but I digress...). Listen, to address the "STOP CHANGING THE RELIGION" happy horseshit, in all its ALLCAPS glory, I'm afraid you have it ass backwards: your isegesis of Jennings' teachings, along with the second from the banned sock puppet, is
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I understand that a lot of people keep coming on to this Knowledge article and keep reverting edits and edit warring over the page just because of the religious classification on this article being classified as "Oneness Pentecostalism." I also fully understand too that Gino Jennings and the
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The word "altercation" here is a bit weaselly and gives a false impression that Mr Vegas attacked people or something when in reality Jennings did not want a fair debate. It could be written with some more clarity, I would make the changes now but the page is currently locked.
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I feel like you're intentionally misreading my replies to wind me up. Most discussions on talk pages involves opinions. When we discuss "potential ways in which the article can be improved" that is opinion.
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