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1178::Totally disagree. No need to change the article name from how I created it. It is being found quickly in the search results, and this name change is "all ego baloney". There is nothing wrong with the current title. That is the name that inspired me to write the article. Also, DUI "Laws" is not what the article is about. We all know what the "Law" is: "You can't drive after drinking". THIS article is to explain the entire ordeal of making that mistake, and the penalties and costs that one might absorb from being convicted of a DUI in California. If the name "must" be changed, I would agree with: "DUI in California", however, I really don't think it is necessary→
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I already stated that I have no problem with changing the name. I just don't care for the word "Laws" in the new title. So, I have no idea what you're talking about with "domain sales". I don't even know what that means. Here is my logic for the last time: Since the main article on this site is
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It is being extremely well received by the public, and I get a feeling of joy, and personal satisfaction knowing that thousands of folks that had no clue what to do the morning after they were let out of a holding cell for a DUI the evening prior, can now find all their answers in one
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California" would be appropriate if its scope were expanded to include such issues as dram shop laws, liquor licensing and regulation, and the like. Without such an expansion, the title should continue to reflect its focus.
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