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images) would need to be months/years, not hours/days. In the movie I see no mention of precovery images, only 5 photos (1h ago, 2h, 3h, 4h, 5h ago) with a 4 HOUR arc (What the Minor Planet Center would call a "single-nighter"). To reach an impact probability of 80% would require a nominal trajectory
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