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Grossman got his books on the Commandant's Reading List mystifies me. They are unreadable, and they are not substantive contributions to any category of human knowledge. Grossman writes his books in order to set up his seminar appearances, at which he flogs his books, which nobody reads. His Institute is an empty shell.
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Grossman collaborates with questionable characters like John Giduck, who wrote a book about the atrocities at Beslan, and turned it into a seminar marketing machine. Until Giduck's research was debunked. He infamously claimed that the Muslim perpetrators committed rapes. This was never substantiated.
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Regiment. LTC Grossman graduated from Ranger school, the same course that Infantry lieutenants and PFCs from the Ranger Battalions attend. That is his
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In the controversial game Postal 2, when the police burst in to arrest Gary
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