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do not eat an item from DEATH in the same meal as LIFE. The only thing Daniel requested was no meat to eat which is DEATH or otherwise anything slaughtered. Years later when Daniel did a shorter version but also omitting fine bread and not anointing himself he still ate dairy which is LIFE and fish/eggs which is PAREVE. It will be nice once even people who are of a church actually start doing what is in the bible. Comments from Cindy L. Schmegelsky, author of Be A Ram No Mercy FINAL EDITION.
371: 1047:? I'll remove the Bloomer et al sentence speaking of fiber ect. That's a vague medical claim being made by other than the analysis of Biblical passages. Other than that, there's no "medical" information for a review. I'll buy two recently published books on the Daniel Fast. From a synopsis, they discuss health benefits. Note that the existing book reference (White) alone supports much of the current text in the article. 683: 662: 191: 693: 1085:? I'll remove the Bloomer et al sentence speaking of fiber ect. That's a vague medical claim being made by other than the analysis of Biblical passages. Other than that, there's no medical information for a review. I'll buy two recently published books on the Daniel Fast. Note that the existing book reference (White) alone supports much of the current text in the article. 576: 253: 594: 243: 222: 845:
The point isn't that people do the Daniel Fast for health reasons. They do it for religious reasons. But, the scripture says the fast promoted relative (to those eating "royal food") health. We know from the three reviews at the start of Healthy Diet that diets higher in whole plant foods are more
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The real biblical daniel fast has nothing to do with this three week fad diet. I know because I just finished the full three year Daniel Fast as listed in Daniel Chapter One. Anyone that understands a kosher kitchen already knows Jews separate food into three categories: Death, Pareve and Life. Jews
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The DF is probably a very healthy diet. Researchers in one of those formal studies speculate the reasons why it might be healthy. I can't write about the strong conclusions of those studies, because they are primary (not reviews). But, I should be able to relate the researchers speculation. The
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Isn't it OK if there's your tag saying potentially unreliable? It is well written and referenced, published, local (University practicing the Fast periodically), and adds wonderful religious dimensions to the fast. It does a better job than White speaking of the Spirit, mind, and body aspects of
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Is it against Wiki rules to say Bible scripture says it's healthy, or the King thought it was healthy and let Daniel continue eating (what he thought would be bad for health turned out good)? Note the scripture contains a test of two diets, basically "royal" and vegan/whole plant food. I can
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speculation is that the absence of saturated fats, lack of processed (no white flour, sugar ect) foods, the abundance of nutrient and fiber rich plant foods, the lack of preservatives and additives, and reduced intake of methionine (and leucine, from another researchers
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and leave a brief mention of different religious diets and fasts. However, there is no source that says that the Daniel fast is kept by people who feel motivated to do so because it is described in the Bible; secondly, there are no sources that indicate that
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which was the other diet mentioned is kept for health reasons, or indeed that there is a positive health effect of it. So I simply do not think that these two different food restrictions belong in this particular article.
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recount the scripture, then write about the researchers speculations. I hope that answers your concerns, and I will write to meet them. Please provide additional feedback. Thanks for your efforts.
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Isn't an accepted and University (as "research") published works of a college senior is not usable in this article? It's not required for the text, but supports it very well in several places.
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I've tagged the sources. Of the four, two are primary medical sources (do not use these for medical claims); one is self-published, and the other is a student essay (?). Not, in other words,
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It's probably best not to use it; looking around, this diet seems to get a fair few mentions in the literature, so I withdraw my grumble about notability. Thanks for creating an article!
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I'll find another reference saying basically taking care of your body is something Scripture says you should do? You don't like this reference (which says that many many times)?
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I just removed a paragraph talking about people being motivated by religion to keep a diet. First, most of the paragraph was a copy of the information that's already in
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I understand it's too specific for healthy diet, sorry. I'll just try to find a way to add a short sentence with the link. I can significantly shorten it in diet too.
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Thanks for the info. I hope the Ellen G. White book, and those two research reports (the two Bloomer et al) provides the secondary source interpretation.
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the fast. I also think it's good to give credit to the author for their contribution to the Daniel Fast article. I'll remove it if you insist.
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I'm Sorry, I was trying to fast to meet the wiki request for Daniel Fast links from other articles (and mostly copied the existing article).
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What is it? Who is the publisher? There seems to be a few journal articles out there, so no need for student work I'd have thought.
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There are two recent newspaper articles speaking of the increased popularity of the Daniel Fast. Here's one that's on the Web
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was just another example of a common religious fast or diet. I'm just saying religious beliefs factor into diet in the intro.
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diet (with proper sourcing). The Daniel Fast, if mentioned at all, should only be mentioned in passing. The same goes for
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There are lots of unsourced sentences in this article, but refs bundled together at the end of paragraphs. This lack of
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PS I'm going to leave out any health claims not supported by the Biblical interpretation references.
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Scripture can be quoted but a secondary source is needed as a reference for the interpretation (see
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The first and third discussions are added from user page talk because they related to this topic:
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Someone else wanted more references, so I added the undergraduate senior project paper.
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Now I'm not so sure I need to buy those two books. Interesting article, Thanks again.
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Nothing particularly usable (more primary studies mainly) - but mentions in e.g. this
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makes it difficult to verify the information, and needs to be sorted out.
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But I didn't use them for medical claims, rather interpreting the Bible.
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Delete unrelated trivia sections found in articles. Please review
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I'd love to read the "mentions in the literature" you found!!
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