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Okazaki NEVER claimed those arts were a MAJOR part of the foundation of Danzan-ryu. Whoever told you that is probably running their mouth. He most likely did study all of those arts, (and yes more research should be done on that), but I believe like any great martial artist, he took
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Master Okazaki was one of the few Asian martial arts masters who converted from Buddhism and Shinto to Christianity. This is well documented. The first person to state this on multiple occasions was Prof. Bud Estes, a founder of the AJJF. Hachiro Okazaki told the Okazaki Biographical Reasearch Team
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EO9066 did not apply to Hawaii, only the mainland. Hawaii was under martial law after 12/7/41. Someone tried to assert that the military went to every Japanese household to coerce confessions to espionage in return for not being interned. This is absurd on its face. It would be interesting to find
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